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Elvin
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posted April 30, 2007 06:36 PM |
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I am not convinced that you want more than 2 schools of magic as most of the earlygame you will not have the resources to build up the mage guild. Just for that you must make sure you will not overlook the might skills and the runic guild. Some good ones are leaderhip(for initiative purposes), luck(damage boosting, rune/ability aid), defense(other factions play first so you must make sure you can take the shrug off the first blow), warmachines(easy to get, helps with dealing damage) but there are other important ones which depend on whom you face.
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ChaosDragon
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posted April 30, 2007 06:42 PM |
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I like light magic for dwarf, because my dwarf is lategame style, ofc i'm not saying destructive is bad, it's only depends on your style.
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Doomforge
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posted April 30, 2007 06:45 PM |
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Y I find light magic more useful too. I thought of choosing Helmar in next game, I'll playing Dwarves, but I really dk what to focus on...
I was thinking of leaving deestr. on basic lvl. with Mr.Fire, Ignite and mana burst, and focus on exp.light+wrath+bless+eternal light...
Is i good or should I leave light magic if I want to reach AP?
to have three destructive magic specialities(master of fire, ignite, mana burst), you also need expert destructive. Two for expert, one for basic.
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Beowolf
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posted April 30, 2007 06:52 PM |
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As far as I know, eternal light requires master of abjuration, so You have to choose between master of wrath and blessings... Cant have everything 
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sq79
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posted May 02, 2007 08:10 PM |
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Edited by sq79 at 20:14, 02 May 2007.
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Bascially that's how the game of ingvar versus ossir goes.
He was nice to fight me out of town though i think i'm gonna die a horrible death if i tried to siege the town 
Basically the dragons were the game winners with the first lucky strike that cleared out 2 stacks. Didn't went for the defenders though since the damage displayed was ridiculousy low.
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2007 08:40 PM |
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Ok so you didn't have treants but the dragons, hunters and unicorns were too many. Also you started with a lucky hit that claimed 2 stacks. What skills did he have btw?
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sq79
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posted May 02, 2007 09:04 PM |
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Edited by sq79 at 21:07, 02 May 2007.
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Ok so you didn't have treants but the dragons, hunters and unicorns were too many. Also you started with a lucky hit that claimed 2 stacks. What skills did he have btw?
I had like 20 treants join me, but didn't bring them along for the battle..
He had expert light, attack, defence, englightment and luck
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feluniozbunio
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posted May 02, 2007 09:07 PM |
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Um dwarven army was much smaller.
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sq79
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posted May 02, 2007 09:14 PM |
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It was 2 town map.. and income was slightly higher on my side
Trained up 3 heroes with estates
He built 2 full towns while i build no treants in both towns, maybe that's the difference + sylvan troops are almost necro pricing
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2007 09:18 PM |
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He had expert light, attack, defence, englightment and destructive
But battle size is too big for destructive to get any good effect i guess
I suppose with attack bonus doubled with luck, defensive formation couldn't help much!  Destructive couldn't either, surprising he picked it for such a late game as luck would be better. A few times I have faced big stacks of dragons it's a nightmare to place your units without tactics so that there is no double hit.
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Elvin
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posted May 02, 2007 09:23 PM |
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He built 2 full towns while i build no treants in both towns, maybe that's the difference + sylvan troops are almost necro pricing
True-With 2 towns it is important to plan what to build and what not as it can mean everything  I wonder if it is balanced in the long run as it is nigh impossible to build two of some ultra-expensive duellings(say rakshasas or runepriests) within reasonable time limits. Maybe some towns have more of an advantage in what they can build...
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Doomforge
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posted May 02, 2007 09:35 PM |
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well, haven can build everything within reasonable ammount of time, since it needs a tiny bit of resources compared to other factions, and it's not heavily focused on one (like dungeon's crystal problem)
Other factions need to drop something.. like
fortress: priests
wizards: raksashas
elves: treants
inferno: pitlords
dungeon: dragons
necropolis: boners
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sq79
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posted May 02, 2007 10:41 PM |
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He had expert light, attack, defence, englightment and destructive
But battle size is too big for destructive to get any good effect i guess
I suppose with attack bonus doubled with luck, defensive formation couldn't help much! Destructive couldn't either, surprising he picked it for such a late game as luck would be better. A few times I have faced big stacks of dragons it's a nightmare to place your units without tactics so that there is no double hit.
Nope he went for luck lol, the 2nd hero had destructive though.
Hehe he had tactics also, but i also had it, so it was negated.
But that starting swift strike from the dragons is kinda hard.
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sq79
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posted May 02, 2007 10:44 PM |
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well, haven can build everything within reasonable ammount of time, since it needs a tiny bit of resources compared to other factions, and it's not heavily focused on one (like dungeon's crystal problem)
Other factions need to drop something.. like
fortress: priests
wizards: raksashas
elves: treants
inferno: pitlords
dungeon: dragons
necropolis: boners
Hehe seriously i would be tempted to build pit lords for inferno though
Even bringing 5-10 in a big battle would be quite nice for a meteor shower if they survived past it
But the bad thing is its unsually hard to get demon castles up on week2 especially since they need to build another building before castle 
They seem to require more wood than sylvan Cerebus and nightmares use 10 wood each
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Doomforge
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posted May 02, 2007 10:48 PM |
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Hehe seriously i would be tempted to build pit lords for inferno though
Their dwelling is too expensive,and compared to what devils offer, for instance... they are just a no-no.
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Even bringing 5-10 in a big battle would be quite nice for a meteor shower if they survived past it
To be honest it's better to use devils in such rushy moments anyway, you want to deal a lot of damage in a short period of time, don't you? Well pitlords suck in it, unless you TA ofc. But you can TA for devils, too!
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But the bad thing is its unsually hard to get demon castles up on week2 especially since they need to build another building before castle
They seem to require more wood than sylvan Cerebus and nightmares use 10 wood each
That's one of the reasons I've dropped inferno: Their costs are ridiculous, and I couldn't stand the castle pre-requisite, ritual pit. Come on, 3x 5 rare resources for such a useless thing? Who the heck had such a brilliant idea? 
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ChaosDragon
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posted May 02, 2007 11:54 PM |
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Yeah, it's better to skip pit lords than devils if you can't build both of them.
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That's one of the reasons I've dropped inferno: Their costs are ridiculous, and I couldn't stand the castle pre-requisite, ritual pit. Come on, 3x 5 rare resources for such a useless thing? Who the heck had such a brilliant idea?
yeah, ritual pit is too useless, its use is not equal with the resources cost.
@sq79: Yup, the wood cost of inferno is higher than sylvan, and the sulfur cost is crazy.
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sq79
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posted May 03, 2007 08:07 AM |
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Yeah, it's better to skip pit lords than devils if you can't build both of them.
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That's one of the reasons I've dropped inferno: Their costs are ridiculous, and I couldn't stand the castle pre-requisite, ritual pit. Come on, 3x 5 rare resources for such a useless thing? Who the heck had such a brilliant idea?
yeah, ritual pit is too useless, its use is not equal with the resources cost.
@sq79: Yup, the wood cost of inferno is higher than sylvan, and the sulfur cost is crazy.
Yes, if sylvan doesn't build treants, their buildings are really easy to build up.
Yes, so maybe the option for inferno is to go for swift strike as well and skip meaty units. Since in late game, their low defence can't really do anything from strikes like paladins and dragons.
But what i really like is the inferno loom, +10% gating/ town.
Quite nice perk really if they get to gate
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pomo
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posted May 03, 2007 08:50 AM |
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So what map is that battle on? It must be very late game for you to have 31 dragons - or a map with level 7 dwelling I suppose.
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Doomforge
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posted May 03, 2007 09:07 AM |
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Battle of honor, probably - don't know why it's so popular, warlocks have a harder time there due to higher creature numbers
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Lesij
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posted May 03, 2007 09:08 AM |
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If Dwarven Hero had Swift Mind and 3Xmaster- light magic, he would win, cuz he could cast mass endurace spell, and then mass Haste, mass Righteous Might, mass Divine Str. and ur elves are dead. Also, you had too many unstopable duduz and Emeraldz...
Moreover, he could win, even without Light Spellz if he made Armageddonist...
That's all Dwarven hero's fault, even though Elves outnumbered Dwarves...
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