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Thread: WCL: Welcome to new Homm3 version - T.E.! This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
SAG
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Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted October 22, 2009 11:38 AM

if you like animated trees - then no problem but I don't know people who like animated trees
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Siegfried
Siegfried


Famous Hero
posted November 14, 2009 06:16 PM
Edited by Siegfried at 11:06, 15 Nov 2009.

Script

Hi,

i'm currently working on a major script and i'd like feedback. Is that o.k. to post that here? Or somewhere else?

The main goal for this script is not balancing, although balancing should in the end be done, too. The main goal is working out the heroes and factions specialities and add dynamic changes to the game. That is changes which have to be developed, not just available from scratch for nothing. So many of the changes depend on the combination of 2 secondary skills and sometimes on hero class.

The secondary goal is to make some skills which are mostly useless else quite valuable.

There will always be a testmap together with the current working script version online at http://www.rorkvell.de/h3/script99.zip

The script may contain bugs and will contain debug messages. The map is kind of tutorial for the new features.

One of the features is a hero beeing able to reveal parts of the map once a day. Prerequisites are no necromancy, but eagle eye and scouting. For necromancers there is a similar feature, not revealing the map, but hiding part of the map. Prerequisite here is necromancy, mysthicism and earth magic. For both it costs movement points.

Here's a shot taken with the test map. I used 2 heroes to reveal 2 different parts of the map. The small right circle was done using Orrin with basic eagle eye and basic scouting as an example for a non-specialised hero. So this is the minimum spot revealed. The other circle was done using Sanya with too basic eagle eye and basic scouting. But a) she has eagle eye speciality, and b) eagle eye as the second skill (comes out of box with eagle eye). Both facts increase efficiency.

The map is a small map. For comparison: A standard redwood observatory reveals nearly the complete map.



Update:

One of the other features is a boost in AT and/or DF, depending on movement, tactics, offense and armorer. If moved, and has tactics and offense, gets AT+. The more moved, the higher bonus (like champion charge bonus). If still has movement points, and has tactics and armorer, gets DF+. The more remaining, the more bonus. Castle heroes may get both in one battle, others get only AT+ if attacking and DF+ if defending. Necros don't get this bonus (get others instead). Bonus is influenced by some other things. Cursed ground inhibits bonus. Holy ground doubles, evil fog halves. Necro artifacts inhibit bonus. Some artifacts lower bonus, some artifacts enhance bonus (these artifacts will be different for each fachtion). And a third (not prerequisite) skill may increase bonus. This third skill is different for each fachtion. For castle it's leadership. For rampart i'm thinking of luck. Others still to check.

Here's a shot with a castle hero with 2 uppers artifacts:




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Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 16, 2009 09:09 AM

@Siegfried: this is correct thread for TE proposals.
However, TE was developed mostly for multiplayer games. In multiplayer, game balance is very important. Your proposals look for me as:
1) disbalancing.
Have you ever played on TE version? Scouting is one of the best skills now. I don't see the need to improve it further or make any objects/spells/skills that open more map.
Your proposal for A/D bonus is too easy to get and bonus is too strong. Do you know about Warrior class in TE?
2) complex.

ERM is limited a lot. Can you help TE developers with assembler/IDA programming? We need to make selection of random template message box at start of the game. It's possible to do with ERA 1.5 homm3 platform, but I'm not good in disassembling exe code...
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Siegfried
Siegfried


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posted November 16, 2009 10:04 AM

Well, o.k., if balancing is the absolute main focus, then this is not the right thread. Although when done script, balancing adjustments are planned. And feedback of some bonus too easy to get is welcome. But then you see that others may get this bonus as easy as you. And yes, the bonus may become quite strong.

But the testmap is a special case. Here i have installed a couple of scholars teaching the skills, to be able to quickly test their results. So normally a hero won't have these skill combinations just with level 1.

Second this testmap is special as i chose mainly special heroes having one of the specialities and/or come out of box with one of these special skills. So the results in the testmap are the extreme result, the maximum what could happen. But, as Salamandre already mentioned, it may indeed be too strong. I made a note here and will check that again. And if i find a good way of how to reduce effectiveness, may be i'll do that. One of the problems is, that i do not simply want switch-on bonus, but a bonus increasing with hero development. But as heroes may develop quite far, there will be a quite large development of these boni too. So if reducing, then reduce the development, but still have some development. So if there are any ideas, they are welcome.

No, i don't know TE edition. I did not even know it exists. But i'm interested. Very interested in this warrior class you mentioned. And (besides balancing) your goals in developing this TE edition.

I hope i can learn something from the TE edition. I hope i find some good ideas there. And in the end, when the script is finished, maybe some (few) competition players want to try it. If not, i've no problem with that.

If this is not the right thread to diskuss this script, it's o.k. Just tell me. In fact, i doubt it is. I still have the thread in the HoMM3.5 section, and for me this would be o.k. I think, Salamandre wanted me to discuss those ideas with experienced players especially for balancing issues.

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zorg1313

Tavern Dweller
posted November 29, 2009 02:34 AM

hello everyone, i've been watching your gossips around here and i got a question for you all, can anyone give me an aproximative but real estimation of the date when 3.59 will release?

your sincere H3 player, zorg1313

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Promising
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WCL owner
posted November 30, 2009 06:53 AM

Quote:
can anyone give me an aproximative but real estimation of the date when 3.59 will release?

as soon as it will be ready
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uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted February 24, 2010 04:22 PM

When are you gonna introduce WT SAG?
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WCL owner
posted February 26, 2010 08:51 AM

i have to test it myself first we have so many homm3 versions/settings so need to be very precise about posting description, installation instructions, etc
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liophy


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Bulgarian
posted February 26, 2010 12:17 PM
Edited by liophy at 12:19, 26 Feb 2010.

There are still a lot of bugs. Even without sim turns.

The very first day we tried it, there was a crash. Then again - both times happened when visiting oponents info in tavern.

BTW i think its good to show the terrain only when you want it. Its kind of annoying to have so much messeges on your screen.

You check 3-4 monsters before you decide what to do, and your screen is full of messeges. And you need to know the terein only for zone guards. Inside the zone you know what terein it is.
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asm


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posted March 02, 2010 10:43 AM
Edited by asm at 11:28, 02 Mar 2010.

Quote:
There are still a lot of bugs. Even without sim turns.

The very first day we tried it, there was a crash. Then again - both times happened when visiting oponents info in tavern.


i fix it at last version
http://heroeswt.net/download/h3wtsetup.exe (21710 Kb)

Quote:

BTW i think its good to show the terrain only when you want it. Its kind of annoying to have so much messeges on your screen.

You check 3-4 monsters before you decide what to do, and your screen is full of messeges. And you need to know the terein only for zone guards. Inside the zone you know what terein it is.

At next version i'l fix it. Terrain will show only if near other terrain.

Now version are stable (only for regular play, for sim turns are not stable yet). Over 20 players played each evening and are in chat.

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shrimp

Tavern Dweller
posted March 09, 2010 10:15 AM
Edited by shrimp at 10:17, 09 Mar 2010.

about patch

hi
I've been playing h3 since it came out, and still making nasty multiplayer games with my friends on web , but really dissapointed from game not being balanced enough. I found about TE patch now (2010) can you believe that! I'm so happy to see those changes. Well my question is whether there is a new vers of this patch cuz i saw that it is released in 07'. If so plz post link for D/L or you e-mail me at ivan_dulgerov@abv.bg

THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE MATES!
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liophy
liophy


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Bulgarian
posted March 22, 2010 06:07 PM

Several times there were a bug in TE - towns that was supposed to have modified army growth, actually had SOD-like growht. Basilisk were 4 instead of 5 and Lizard was 9 instead of 9. Same thing happend to a friend with inferno.

The occurance of the bug is strange, providing we dont touch our settings at all more than a year, and we play the same opponents.
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liophy
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Bulgarian
posted April 07, 2010 04:35 PM

Already 2 times when playing  Conflux the growth was 5 Phoenixes per week.

Any  clue why's that?
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted April 07, 2010 06:06 PM

no idea...perhaps something became wrong with your version...anyway soon no one will play TE, all will move to WT http://www.heroeswt.net/features.php
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seddy
seddy


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Spinner of delicious cupcakes
posted June 19, 2010 01:16 AM

But... To all of us non (is that russian?...) speaking people, will there be an English version of the world tournament version?

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Promising
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posted June 20, 2010 12:57 PM

there is English version of homm3 WT. in chat many russian-speaking players but version is English, so you can play it
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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted September 07, 2010 12:20 AM
Edited by Alustor at 01:48, 09 Sep 2010.

this 1.03q is the final version of te??(and i don t mean the latest)

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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted September 17, 2010 11:17 AM

yes
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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted November 21, 2010 07:53 PM

Quick question; the link in the OP for the TE page appears to lead to a blank black page. Is that page inoperable, or is my web browser just malfunctioning?
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 22, 2010 04:05 PM

link is valid.
however i would recommend WT version http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=32861
WT is enhanced TE
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