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posted October 29, 2008 05:32 PM |
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What defines a quality post? In my experience they are posts that take a lot of work, Never have I seen a quality conception in the form of post 1 of a thread be awarded unless its revealing of a lot of information.
I gave up in believing in God!!! This thread has tonz of quality posts but the Mods don't want to be subjective and award ones view where they will have to award the opposing view as well. The vegetarian thread I made, award one side your taking sides.. That's why a lot of QP's don't go, and I understand.
Anyways. I'll just direct eligible posts this way.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 29, 2008 06:07 PM |
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It's in the Wasteland. Posts aren't awarded QPs there.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 29, 2008 06:11 PM |
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It's just an example, of threads where sides are taken, few QPost's get a qp because mods dont want to take sides, which I understand.
Better example, United States president (2008)
I'm gonna leave the discussion alone and start referring if I happen to run across anything else.
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alcibiades
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posted October 29, 2008 07:42 PM |
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What defines a quality post? In my experience they are posts that take a lot of work, Never have I seen a quality conception in the form of post 1 of a thread be awarded unless its revealing of a lot of information.
Well fortunately, the fora I moderate are fairly easy in this regard, take the Temple for instance, it's a forum related to discussion of the game specifically, so the two main criteria I look for in quality are posts that are either a) helpful to other gamers, or b) reveal new tactics and aspects of the game. In either case, the post has to be fairly thorough for it to merit a QP. A post like this: "Destructive magic with Haven totally pwns because nobody expetcs it." might be true, but it still will not really be worthy of a QP, because it doesn't address the issue with Knights having very low Spell Power (making your spells extremely ineffective), low mana resource, low chance of learning the skill and not least no internal means of learning the spells should they learn the skill.
The Altar is less obvious because it's a much more creative forum - what seems like a perfect idea or concept to one might be awful to another. Just think about the Infernopolis and you get my drift - someone must have thought that was a good idea; someone, somewhere. Anyway, I try to find some common ground and say the post should include something original and interesting and also show some depth. I guess that's where people sometimes get the impression that a post needs to be long to get a QP, that's not necessarily the case, but if someone keeps work on a project going over 10 pages, it's likely to be acknoweledged with a QP because after all, that creatures good forum activity which is also a sign of quality.
And on the bottom line, if you want an example of people being awarded QP's for posts that are not monumental, they are there. Here's an example of one.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 29, 2008 08:14 PM |
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I can think of a few more.
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posted October 29, 2008 08:31 PM |
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I can’t. Though, I don’t really care about all this QP stuff. For me, it’s just something that’s there. Sometimes, it’s even something that’s not. I usually forget about those little red stars. Though, with my current signature, I do get reminded of them more often than I had in the past. I still don’t care, though. I just go around, posting what I choose, staying within the CoC as well as I can. I didn’t really read most of it, but I post as I normally would, and I seem to be doing alright.
Back to the QP’s though, I’d be fine without them being part of the boards. I’m sure they have their purpose, but, from what I know of them, they would hardly change anything, for me, if I had more of them. Though, the only thing I do know about them is the flood protect being gone, and that little flood protect, I’ve hardly had a problem with.
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posted October 30, 2008 03:23 AM |
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Alkar I have to agree with everything You just said. I do the same, I post as I post, not so much thinking about being quality, but in my case that's because I know its hard to get QPs.. I give up on them. Celfious has 9 or 8 and a few negatives but hasn't seen a qp in years. But I look at them as they dont exist, because I dont like them anymore, they are so rare now.. Most of my posting is in the VWs anyways.
Personally, I want the 20 a day thing lifted so I could use 3 qp's (3 years later maybe if I stay in the VW) because some days I get into conversations in the OSM or tavern.
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william
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posted October 30, 2008 06:36 AM |
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The whole point of the 20 posts per day is to encourage users to try and make more quality posts. If you find that you keep reaching the limit then maybe it is a sign that what you are posting may not be good enough for a QP.
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posted October 30, 2008 06:58 AM |
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I can’t. Though, I don’t really care about all this QP stuff. For me, it’s just something that’s there. Sometimes, it’s even something that’s not. I usually forget about those little red stars. Though, with my current signature, I do get reminded of them more often than I had in the past. I still don’t care, though. I just go around, posting what I choose, staying within the CoC as well as I can. I didn’t really read most of it, but I post as I normally would, and I seem to be doing alright.
Back to the QP’s though, I’d be fine without them being part of the boards. I’m sure they have their purpose, but, from what I know of them, they would hardly change anything, for me, if I had more of them. Though, the only thing I do know about them is the flood protect being gone, and that little flood protect, I’ve hardly had a problem with.
I disagree as it usually points you towards good old threads and posts to read.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 30, 2008 07:02 AM |
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The whole point of the 20 posts per day is to encourage users to try and make more quality posts. If you find that you keep reaching the limit then maybe it is a sign that what you are posting may not be good enough for a QP.
First of all willam if you dont like me why am I still a supermod at GG? Go ahead and remove that.
Second, I cant post 1000 times a day which is about how rare QP's are when you look at everyones star ratio. So maybe thats a -flawed- direct insult to me william, I dont care
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posted October 30, 2008 07:06 AM |
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I get what you're saying will but I'm not too sure about it...
I mean the way I see it those 3 QPs are supposed to be a "barrier" to protect HC from mindless spam trash or well atleast in too big quantaties but I don't know... I mean we have good quality posting members (look at mvass for instance he's all over the OSM. Wether you agree with him or not doesn't matter he simply keeps discussions going and discusses things in a constructive manner. If there is a QP for overall thread contribution he (and others) should have gotten one ages ago in the OSM) that don't have many QPs.
I personally got 3 QP's before I even knew about floodprotect since I had never posted over 20 posts a day (just saying that because I feel like angelito is totally pointing his finger at me !!).
But what I really ment to say is that in foras like the OSM and the Glade there simply aren't enough QP's (that's not saying that the mods aren't doing their jobs probably... I hope it was uneccesary for me to mention that) and I think it has a lot to do with what Celfious already said about Mods not wanting to take sides. But well if one side of the argument has the better posts it has nothing to do with being impartial you simply award a good post.
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william
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posted October 30, 2008 07:08 AM |
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@ Celf
Where did I say that I don't like you? I should have myself clearer in what I said by saying you (general people that don't have any QP's and still have the limit) not targeting you specifically. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
And I wasn't insulting you at all.
@Azagal
OSM is hard to give QP's in since, like it has been said, taking sides is a big part of that, however, I disagree with the Glade and the QP's and taking sides. Right now we only really have 1 active moderator there which is Mytical. Now, if you were in his position then you may find it a bit hard to look after the forum plus read all the posts (which are quite a lot plus some of them are quite long). Right now, i really think it has to do with the moderation. Not that the moderators are doing a bad job or that they are bad moderators, it's just that there aren't enough active mods there to be able to read all the threads and decide on a QP.
Plus, what are feedback threads for? If you (general) see a post that you think is QP worthy then just post in them. The tavern works quite well with that since people post what they think is QP worthy and it usually spawns a few responses usually with people disagreeing or agreeing with the post and if it is QP worthy, and then the moderator will usually act and say what needs to be said in regards to whether it will or won't get a QP.
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posted October 30, 2008 07:13 AM |
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uh, np I guess.. I take a lot of what you say the wrong way.
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posted October 30, 2008 07:51 AM |
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The qp ratio is the wrong way to look at it.
If someone has 1000 posts and 2 qps, that doesn't mean that if you go out and post 500 times you'll get a qp... 
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JapanGamer
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posted October 30, 2008 07:59 AM |
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The qp ratio is how it is.. I'll just throw out an estimation here. every 888 posts has a qp.. I would lilke to see the real stats its probably like 741
I see your point though, its not the way to look at it as "When I get 1000 posts ill have 2 red stars" thats not how I look at it at all.
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posted October 30, 2008 08:46 AM |
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The ratio is kind of irrelevant because the number of qp's given isn't necessarily proportional to the number of posts.
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JapanGamer
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posted October 30, 2008 09:11 AM |
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The ratio of quality posts isnt with the quality points either..
QPS stand for something I cannot say. Beyond flood protect atleast.
I am back to my other statement, I dont care anymore, about qps because of what they stand for.
Why is it everyone finds faults in what I say that dont match up? Why is it my point is not taken correctly, if you can run this way or that way with my words, you go that way, and come at me with dispute. Anyone in this thread I mean. Why is it i have to explain myself further and further and further?
Maybe I should prepare for an argument next time and bold half of what I say so its noted.
QP's mean nothing but flood protect removal for me, as of now. and hey its nice some of you got a qp here and there, I had about 12 all together, they are nice to get, but at the discretion of imperfect humans who clearly cant read everything. QP's stand for something half of you will not see, and something I wont go into .
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posted October 30, 2008 10:14 AM |
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If someone wants QP, he should post at the altar, Genielord isn't very strict about giving those ^^
And who cares whether someone has more or less QPs. You take it too seriously Celf
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posted October 30, 2008 10:18 AM |
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If someone wants QP, he should post at the altar, Genielord isn't very strict about giving those ^^
And who cares whether someone has more or less QPs. You take it too seriously Celf
Says he with no post limit or flood protect...
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posted October 30, 2008 10:29 AM |
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How about you show us some "+qp worthy" posts celfious made in the last 2 years which were not seen and/or not rewarded?
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