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Celfious
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posted June 03, 2008 12:50 AM
Edited by Celfious at 00:52, 03 Jun 2008.

A philosophy forum.

Otherside takes care of a lot of stuff but I think the philosophic community would have much more flexability than having 2 or 3 chain threads like Is god real, ect.

Am I wrong, Ive been before, but I cant tell now. Who's with me?

The chicken was already an egg before it was a chicken. The egg came first, unless some greater creator made them all at once.
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The_Gootch
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posted June 03, 2008 01:22 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 01:23, 03 Jun 2008.

Philosophy to you is like reality to a schizophrenic.

Longtime no see smellCelfious.
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Elvin
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posted June 03, 2008 01:32 AM

Out of curiosity who prevents the 'philosophic community' from making such threads right here? What kind of flexibility do you see hindered?
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posted June 03, 2008 11:46 AM

What's this thread about?
Unknown forces prohibiting the advancement of philosphical threads

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Darkshadow
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posted June 03, 2008 04:00 PM

No, this evil evil immortal deity is


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william
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posted June 03, 2008 04:12 PM

The thread creator tried to make this serious, DarkShadow. Do you mind taking your spam to the VW?
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posted June 03, 2008 05:22 PM

But why do we need it?

If the philosophy from the RL life, put the thread in the OSM.
If the philosophy is about Heroes 5, put the thread in the Temple/Altar.
If the philosophy about HC management, put the thread in the Tribunal.

etc.

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posted June 03, 2008 06:16 PM

Separate OSM and philosphy ?

I think it amy be a good idea to separate the philosphical ideas from RL-talk, what OSM really should be (Talking about the present, not the Arcane, the Future or the whatever)

One of these threads that certainly belong in this separate thread is "I gave up believing in God", which definately is situated in a wrong thread. "Dream Talk", "Abortion", and stuff like this (thing that involve any kind of moralty nedds such a forum.

Brilliant Idea Celphious !
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Mamgaeater
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posted June 03, 2008 10:31 PM

I agree but the chicken came before the egg.

if you are creationist god made chicken first.
if you are evolutionist a chickenlike creature created an egg that hatched into a chicken which laid the first [chicken] egg.


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posted June 04, 2008 02:19 AM

@Mamga: Exactly!

Organisms come before the mechanisms that reproduce them.
So yeah, chicken before egg.
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posted June 04, 2008 05:02 AM

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The thread creator tried to make this serious, DarkShadow. Do you mind taking your spam to the VW?

And I was serious too, most threads that have good points and such end up to SPAMfests, some such as the "I gave up on believing in god" thread are almost free of it, but most are spammed.


Sorry, I don't think that is true. Have you even bothered to actually read most of the posts in the God thread? There may have been a few posts that were SPAM, but the majority of the thread was people making good posts.
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Darkshadow
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posted June 04, 2008 08:22 AM

That's what I said!I said there were few spam posts. And yes, I have read almost the whole god thread.
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Mamgaeater
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posted June 04, 2008 08:39 PM

Philosophy might be better called debate. as there are many things that lively and (hopefully) constructive debates could take place on. prehaps a dual forum
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Celfious
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posted June 06, 2008 06:53 PM
Edited by Celfious at 18:54, 06 Jun 2008.

Quote:
Out of curiosity who prevents the 'philosophic community' from making such threads right here? What kind of flexibility do you see hindered?


Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I cant fully explain it. Please just try it out and see the brilliant threads and posts people come up with. It could be a theology/philosophy forum. Where branches and branches of ideas/threads would just be filled with powerful things.

And I guess, in my meek opinion, that debates relating to philosophy and theology could be directed twoards this forum, but, not all debates. Like USA president, whats the best foods, ect... Not that kind of debates.
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Elvin
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posted June 06, 2008 07:30 PM

I get your point. Still I believe that it's the individual effort in creating such topics that is lacking, if people posted about them more would follow. If the forum was philosophical only maybe it would create more topics of this nature but are people really willing to have such conversations? Cause I don't see them.
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posted June 06, 2008 08:57 PM

The thing is that it is not that the effort to start threads is lacking, but the concentration to stay on-topic. I mean, somebody says something in the discussion, somebody else responds to that with some statement bordering between two different subjects, and then the subject changes. That's why there are really any Other Side thread created today will (if it does not die) end up being about one or some combination of 3 topics: the existence of God, economics, or Israel-Palestine. It seems that they are the only things we discuss these days.
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Celfious
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posted June 06, 2008 09:44 PM
Edited by Celfious at 22:05, 06 Jun 2008.

Elvin I cant think of very many new philosophical threads at this present moment but I cant think of new ones for many of the forums like there is a vast abundance of them either. Like, 5% of the communities threads may be philosophical/god related. I think that would bump up to like 10% if there was a forum designated for trippy thinking, philosophy, and God(s)/Godess(es).

how are planets circular?
Which way is actualy up in the universe?
Did you know that east and west spiral? So depending on where you are related to the earth west could be left, or right.
(enough on planets)
A census on religion / spiritual beliefes of HC.
The benifits and flaws of the venn diagram.
Einstiens beliefes of God, and the changes he went through
Socrates philosophies, and beliefes on god
Aristotle...
A did you know this about _Random philosipher_thread.
ways to improve humanity
the flaws of humanity, and things that actualy work out well.

Those ideas are from mere "I" in like 2 minutes. I would think I didnt cover all of them lol. Someone else is gonna say, ah', thats a place for a thread like this.

Anyways.

Then there are SERIOUS but spam like threads like this one asking rediculous questions that blow the mind and should be retained in this community.

Heres a question I want awnsers too, even though I have a vauge idea what the best awnser is. _Why, why dont humans just freaking use the same size things, the same color floors with the best material for the ecology, so everything would be simple, and everything would fit like lego's. Why. Marble, wood, paint, cement, geeze, just pick one and set a universal size. Would make everything, say, uniformitized and put together like 1 and 1.

Heres a question my Ethics teacher asked me like 4 years ago.. (me and the class, you know) He asked all of us to say ONE good reason why its OK to kill and eat animals. I'f I'm not mistaken he mentioned something about survival being the only one, however our bodies -according to my doctor and others- do not depend on any kind of meat. They say we need a source of protien, well there's peanuts, protien bars, shakes, ect.. I just ate like 48% of my daily protien in 3 minutes. In a candy bar like thing... Vanilla....

Anyways. thats all I got for now. I am gonna be more active from now on either way this goes, but I hope Val tests this forum out.

Oh yeah, edit
Theres a ton of movies for people like me that I dont even know about. We could talk about those "wierd movies" like (The one, matrix, dark city, you all can help me on this one.) And games.... Wierd games. We could discuss why Order vs Chaos are not as distinguished as Chaos vs (what was it called again??? good???) Good.
I mean order and chaos are like heads and tails, yet order has a devil like thing.

Ok Great thanks bye for now :]
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Elvin
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posted June 07, 2008 12:14 AM

I'd be interested in some of the aforementioned, you could start the discussion even if Val does create a new forum. Or you could try it anyway as an experiment to see if that will spark a new life to the other side. Besides if a new forum is created these threads will have to be moved.
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posted June 07, 2008 02:18 AM

"The way I figure it is, I'm the most important person in the universe.  The reason?  Once I die, this universe disappears with me."

Now there's an interesting thought.
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VokialBG
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posted June 07, 2008 03:07 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 15:10, 07 Jun 2008.

I like the basic idea, philosophy forum will be more then intriguing (at least for me, a philosopher ). Subjects for philosophy threads... I have endless idea about them. But forum like this one has some disadvantages, especially as part of this community.

<Philosophy forum> (if you want insert a name here) may be too special for HC, not all members are competent, anyway this isnt the main problem, sice everyone can just discuss the threads and/or read them.

If we look at the other side of this problem, HC is not this type of community (I dont mean the members I mean the idea of this place) its Heroes of Might and Magic (the basic idea) and then some additional discussions about the RL, Spam and Other games

I can say that we can keep this <Philosophy forum> alive (someone mentioned the oppositional view). And I'm one of volunteer helpers here

However we can find more disadvantages and advantages. We already have the Monitor and the Tavern, but are they mess enough for this split? Is it needed?

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