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Salamandre
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posted August 26, 2008 03:29 PM |
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So please try to give some arguments (perhaps without big emotions) why u think this drawing should get a penalty. Also try to keep in mind, this drawing may be seen from more than 1 side...
Thats is exactly what I asked for. Form my side I see nothing but a caricature. Not the best taste, but not worthing releasing the dogs at.
Where does Ashera see that "killing jews" for nothing is OK?
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posted August 26, 2008 03:40 PM |
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Quote: Anti it's high time you installed a spellchecker :S
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posted August 26, 2008 04:03 PM |
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The problem is that this is a holocaust joke, during that time jews were forced to wear yellow pads on their arms with "jew" written on them and a yellow david cross on their chest. I lost 3 of my grandparents in the holocaust cause I'm originally from Russia, and as far as I know russians were not forced to go through that kind of unhuman humiliation.
When I saw this picture making fun of such a horrible topic the only thing I could think about is my grandparents and felt inside how they are turning in their graves.
But why do we have a discussion whether if ban him or not?! He had 4 accounts!!! What does the FAQ say? NO MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. He never contributes anything to any thread he posts in... or maybe Angelito you think that posting 5 times in the same thread "I'm gonna bring snows!" is normal behaviour?
All the penalties he had gotten have been forgot so he can get another 5 then create a new account and get 5 more while humiliating black people and jews in the meantime.
Give me a break this is bull****!
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posted August 26, 2008 04:06 PM |
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Quote: Anti it's high time you installed a spellchecker :S
It's called "Unreal Past" Angelito
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Salamandre
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posted August 26, 2008 04:24 PM |
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angelito
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posted August 26, 2008 04:29 PM |
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Quote: But why do we have a discussion whether if ban him or not?! He had 4 accounts!!! What does the FAQ say? NO MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS . As I said, we should try to discuss the current picture issue, not everything what happened in the past. And if u quote the FAQ, you should quote the whole paragraph..
FAQQuote: How Many Usernames Can I Have?
Only one username. Secondary usernames will be deleted and their host account penalized. The reason for this strict policy is our intention to keep the forums free of spam, flood and fake people as much as possible. Secondary usernames may be allowed in special circumstances - you must ask a moderator first for approval.
Quote: He never contributes anything to any thread he posts in... or maybe Angelito you think that posting 5 times in the same thread "I'm gonna bring snows!" is normal behaviour?
No it is not, but believe me, I can name a bunch full of people who rarely contribute anything to serious threads. Why don't you think I want to get rid of the VW since years?
Quote: ...while humiliating black people and jews in the meantime.
Try to get rid of your emotions please, even though I have to admit it may be hard in your case. You know yourself he is far away from "humiliating". From a neutral point of view, I think there is a big difference between: "I hate blacks" and "All blacks should die!", don't you think so? To hate is not good of course, but still it isn't racist. What if someone says "I hate women!"?
Quote: Give me a break this is bull****!
Just out of curiosity, because I really don't know it: Did you ever ask for a ban for KD before you have been personally affected by one of his posts?
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posted August 26, 2008 04:35 PM |
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Quote: How Many Usernames Can I Have?
Only one username. Secondary usernames will be deleted and their host account penalized. The reason for this strict policy is our intention to keep the forums free of spam, flood and fake people as much as possible. Secondary usernames may be allowed in special circumstances - you must ask a moderator first for approval.
He didn't. Therefore, if we should apply the CoC, he should be banned. No question about it. But if we want to be somewhat lenient, as we should be (since if every time someone posted something not SIRIOUS outside of the Tavern and Wastelands, HC would be in a rather sad state), we shouldn't ban him. What he did might be somewhat offensive, but come on. Just get a thicker skin. It's not that horrible. We should be far more offended by censorship than by this kind of comical racism.
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posted August 26, 2008 04:38 PM |
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Angelito, you haven't seen KD on MSN. You haven't see how he really is. He's simply twisted and rotten to the bone. Right, he hates Jews, but there is no difference in this case. Why? Because he said multiple times in MSN without ado that all Jews should die. Why do you think GL hate him? Because no matter what KD, Insults him. Why do you think he blocked Antipaladin? Because he tried to defend himself (wihn success) against KD's hatespam. I know you can't act fro things happening outsied HC, but really note this. He doesn't Hate Jews, he wishes them dead, and that's not joke.
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angelito
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posted August 26, 2008 04:43 PM |
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I understand what you are saying Lexxan, but this is not to be judged here. What he is doing on MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, in his garden, on his roof or in his classroom is not interesting here, coz it is his private life. The CoC of HC only counts for HC.
You are all able to "ban" him on MSN, ICQ etc...so feel free to do so. But this shouldn't reflect on this issue here. If he writes such things as HCMs, it is a different case. This would be interesting of course.
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posted August 26, 2008 04:44 PM |
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Quote: Angelito, you haven't seen KD on MSN. You haven't see how he really is. He's simply twisted and rotten to the bone. Right, he hates Jews, but there is no difference in this case. Why? Because he said multiple times in MSN without ado that all Jews should die. Why do you think GL hate him? Because no matter what KD, Insults him. Why do you think he blocked Antipaladin? Because he tried to defend himself (wihn success) against KD's hatespam. I know you can't act fro things happening outsied HC, but really note this. He doesn't Hate Jews, he wishes them dead, and that's not joke.
Yes, I want to second that.
I don't hate KD, I just think that something is wrong with him. I told him once that 95% of my family was murdered by the Natzis and he laughed. That just sounds wrong to me.
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posted August 26, 2008 04:53 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 16:56, 26 Aug 2008.
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@ angelitoQuote: And those who blame the "kiddies" generation here on OSM and on HC in general should react like a mature person to show where the boarder line is between kid and adult....
I tried to clarify that part in my second post. I understand where the borderline is... In the real world, I would have laughed it off or reacted to disrespectful remarks. I just don't need it online. Had it been a personal insult, I would have found it much easier to ignore it - but nationalist and racist provocations undermine any discussion.
On the other hand, I do realize it might be my problem, not theirs. This is just a gaming forum... It's only natural.
Anyhow, good luck... since it seems you have made your choice.
Quote: Now you have pretty much the same. A drawing...wow....In some countries this is called "art".
Amazing...
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posted August 26, 2008 04:57 PM |
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Quote: I understand what you are saying Lexxan, but this is not to be judged here. What he is doing on MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, in his garden, on his roof or in his classroom is not interesting here, coz it is his private life. The CoC of HC only counts for HC.
Let me anwser that with a Quote: Quote: I know you can't act for things happening outside HC
For e the most important thing is that you understand what he's up to... He shouldn't be underestimated!
Quote: You are all able to "ban" him on MSN, ICQ etc...so feel free to do so. But this shouldn't reflect on this issue here. If he writes such things as HCMs, it is a different case. This would be interesting of course.
I already did that ages ago, but that doesn't make me forget the BS he'd been telling.
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posted August 26, 2008 04:57 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 16:57, 26 Aug 2008.
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@GL: You have the right to dislike him then. But MSN is not HC, in MSN you can "ban" him yourself.
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posted August 26, 2008 06:14 PM |
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As I said, he deserves at least a penalty IMO.
A ban may be too much, but if someone says that all Jews are Devils (with that pic), don't they deserve a penalty?
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posted August 26, 2008 06:34 PM |
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Devils are the most fun units to play in HoMM3. I prefer them to Angels
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angelito
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posted August 26, 2008 06:50 PM |
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As far as I know, there even doesn't exist a "devil" in judaism...
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posted August 26, 2008 07:03 PM |
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I don't have a problem with devils Angelito but with the cross and the word jew.
Do you think that it is okay to say post a photo of a black person with the word snow written on his forehead?
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Salamandre
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posted August 26, 2008 07:06 PM |
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Quote: I don't have a problem with devils Angelito but with the cross and the word jew.
Do you think that it is okay to say post a photo of a black person with the word snow written on his forehead?
You are doing confusion after confusion: snow is an offensatory word while jew is not.
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posted August 26, 2008 07:10 PM |
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Fine then how about a photo of say Michael Schumacher and a big natzi sticker on his overall, and a speach bubble that says "Heil Hitler"
Okay I'm done with this, keep KD, I'll go.
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radar
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posted August 26, 2008 07:25 PM |
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I thought it is typed without 't'
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