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Heroes Community > Turban Tribunal > Thread: Orange stars
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broadstrong
broadstrong


Promising
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Level 20 Vassal of Light
posted October 13, 2008 05:12 PM

Orange stars

All HC-ers are very familiar with the red stars (for quality postings) and the yellow stars (for post counts).  

However, I believe that there are many HC members who contribute to HC in a greater way than simply putting in posts.  While their posts may not be the best 0.2% or even be substantial enough to warrant a QP, they keep posts alive, regularly contribute their 2-cents worth on certain topics, or may even come up with mini-competitions, small-scale mods (and so on) to bind the community together and benefit other HC-ers.  This is also not to mention that there are posts that are well-written even though they are not given QPs.

With this in mind, I would like to propose "orange stars", possibly (but not limited) to the following:-
(1) Overall great attitude of poster / quality of poster's posts
(2) Awarded for posts that do not quite make the mark for QP but are good in some ways, such as slight improvement to game or giving good insights that are not easily found/scattered in other posts (something like Nebdar's mod v1.07 or Asheera's upgrade analysis)
(3) Current HC members who are helpful in guiding newbies around in this forum
(4) Newcomers to the forum that make a consicentious effort to contribute positively to the forum's well-being

Of course, the orange stars should not be too easy for the moderators to dish out, as well.  Also, there should be a sufficient number of orange stars in order to earn a red star (such as 7 orange for 1 red).

The orange stars need not be shown in the profile section, perhaps an extra section beside "bonuses" section can help to explain how certain members got their orange stars (short explanations to be written by mods, or by certified veteran members approved by mods).  This can help to minimise re-programming of the profile screens.

Feel free to comment, though I have to admit that this may not be that easy for the mods to implement.  

I hope this orange star scheme can encourage everybody in eventually making HC a great place for veterans and newbies alike.
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Asheera
Asheera


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
posted October 13, 2008 05:19 PM

Well I like the idea. The only problems I can think of are:

1) Implementation, and the fact that we'll have to search older posts to award them Orange stars (because, unlike QPs which were here from the beginning, these orange stars are implemented now when there are a lot of posts)

2) Conservatives like William will surely not want this
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radar
radar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted October 13, 2008 05:29 PM

The law doesn't work backwards Asheera.

I don't like the idea anyway

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 05:35 PM

So what you propose is "Attitude points"..

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naaw I don't like the idea

People with lots of orange stars would be marked as goody two shoes

What about those who aren't too nice at times, but don't break the CoC (Acu, TA, me :E)

We would all suffer from no orange stars and it would be a disgrace towards our flawless accounts.


Ok, joking. I simply don't think we need another ranking. We already have a unique one at HC and there is still a lot to do (since nobody reached praiseworthy yet ;P)

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Asheera
Asheera


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posted October 13, 2008 05:36 PM

Quote:
What about those who aren't too nice at times, but don't break the CoC (Acu, TA, me :E)
You aren't "too nice", you don't get orange stars
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 13, 2008 05:38 PM

Please, it's not an rpg with alignment system..
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DagothGares
DagothGares


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No gods or kings
posted October 13, 2008 05:38 PM

So pretty much how QP's work?
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 05:46 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 17:47, 13 Oct 2008.

Quote:
Please, it's not an rpg with alignment system..




we're here not for stats, but for fun

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broadstrong
broadstrong


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Level 20 Vassal of Light
posted October 13, 2008 05:48 PM

It's more than just attitude points, it also includes posts that are good, but somehow not good enough to earn a QP (there are many such posts as I see, just that offhand I do not have many examples to show).

Anyway the orange stars are not supposed to be easy to get either, so as not to have the "leaning towards goody-two-shoes" imbalance.  Nope, no relation to any RPG alignment system either (I find such system very difficult to master, you need to really work your brains to work out the "required" alignment points in order to trigger events, tand that is too mind-boggling)

I expect this suggestion to be not-so-popular...well it is only a suggestion for all to think about, so I can't really say much if most people object.
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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted October 13, 2008 05:52 PM

While I do think that people should be rewarded for a good attitude, I don't think this is the way forward. First off, it's too much akin to the red star we already have, and personally, I don't bother trying to figure out whether a post is perhaps worth a full red star, only an orange star, or nothing at all.

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted October 13, 2008 06:02 PM

Quote:
unlike QPs which were here from the beginning
Fun fact: The above statement actually isn't true. QPs and red stars came long after the regular, yellow stars. For any specific information like dates, go nag Val.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted October 13, 2008 06:04 PM

In any case we know which are the good guys, they don't need a label
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 06:07 PM

Well, I think that some Acu followers would even become rude in order to get the "bad@ss" title. (negative attitude score). Lol.


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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted October 13, 2008 06:17 PM

We should totally have purple stars for bad@ss members
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 06:19 PM

yeah, I want them all, I can give my red ones for them

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Keksimaton
Keksimaton


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Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand
posted October 13, 2008 06:22 PM
Edited by Keksimaton at 18:25, 13 Oct 2008.

I doubt there would be really any need for the "orange stars" if they only showed up in your profile. The yellow and red stars are pretty neat when you get a cool "rank" that really is meaningless, but still pretty cool.

I already have some issues with the current system too so the orange stars would just add up the issues. It basically already messages that you will be rewarded by being good (some people might be good just for the reward) even though you should be good because it is good to be good. Rewards are for games. This is a message board not a game.

The privilidges you get for QPs are also kind of silly. I have not many problems with the "ranks" like "honorable" and other, but its the privilidges that people get for writing ten mile long posts about something. I really haven't cared to see if there are any privilidges besides the removal of the 20 post limit, but the 20 post limit removal is the most high profile one so I'll just write about it.

Too many times have I seen "good" and contributive members, who don't write 10 mile long posts, write among the lines of: "Edit: Can't respond properly since I hit my 20 post limit for the day."

I really think that removing the 20 post limit from a memeber should not be based upon how many 10 mile long posts he/she has written. I think it should be done if the memeber has/(has had) problems with the 20 post limit and a moderator judges the member to be trustworthy/responsible enough to have his/her 20 post limit removed.


How about considering that?
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted October 13, 2008 06:33 PM

It never was about that, you can see plenty of cases where it was not about writing a huge post. You know the idea, humour, originality, effort for the community blah blah. All these do not require a monstrous thread, it's up to you how you gain it. Regardless we can't be checking every single poster to 'judge' if he is 'worthy' enough, that would be even worse on top of not being practical. Say I give it to someone that you don't find trustworthy, you'd still have problems with that. Not to mention constant nagging from others.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 06:43 PM

The 20 post limit is to encourage you to play that little HC minigame of star collecting. The system wasn't just invented to look cool, you know. It encourages people to create an interesting topic, or to make a good post instead of one liners that simply flood most of the "old" forums.

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Keksimaton
Keksimaton


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Talk to the hand
posted October 13, 2008 06:49 PM

I kind of thought that the poster who has had problems with the 20 post limit would contact a moderator and ask if it could be removed NOT that the moderators would constantly look around and "judge people's worth".

And why the heck would I care who the mods would see "trustworthy" enough to have his/her 20 post limit removed and why should anyone else care? If the member has had problems with the 20 post limit and the moderator(s) he/she has contacted think that it wouldn't hurt to see if the member would abuse the 20 post limit removal or be responsible.

I think my choice of words might be a bit wrong, but I don't see that it would cause too much trouble for the mods.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Retired Hero
posted October 13, 2008 06:50 PM

Well back when I had 2 red stars it never really bothered me much.

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