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Heroes Community > Other Games Exist Too > Thread: "Lords of the Rings I "Vs. "Lord of the Rings II"
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Nebdar
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posted April 05, 2009 07:44 PM
Edited by Nebdar at 19:44, 05 Apr 2009.

Lord of the Rings I:Battle For The MiddleEarth     vs.     Lord of the Rings II: Battle For The MiddleEarth
 


I would like to ask you for opinion which one is better and why

I had played the First one and i was very satisfied with it. The Game Rocks. Now i have bought the Second Part and i am asking did i make the right thing....
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DagothGares
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posted April 05, 2009 09:46 PM

I liked the first one better. The campaign was innovative, the armies were massive, the structures and buildings were compact and organised. The second one I hated.

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posted April 05, 2009 10:35 PM

I only played the second one, it was kinda fun at first but now I just think it sucks.

Too much rock-paper-scissor strategy for me.
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Nebdar
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posted April 05, 2009 10:46 PM

@Adrius the rock-paper-scissor strategy is also in the first part, but thats a good thing IMO. there are no ultimate the best creature, army type you have to mix it right.

@DagothGares yes i loved the way you could build structers, it prevented to just build wall with many towers strategy and every castle, outpost looked pretty.

And it look like this comparsion is similar to the topic "which is better H3, H5 or H4"
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Totoro
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posted April 06, 2009 02:10 PM
Edited by Totoro at 14:16, 06 Apr 2009.

I've played both.

Number 2 is way much better.
Number 1 is way too limited... ever played Spore? Similar to it.

Besides, I love paper, rock, scissors strategy. All the best strategy games use them. Mostly RTS, though...
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posted April 06, 2009 02:30 PM
Edited by Nebdar at 14:30, 06 Apr 2009.

Thanks for reply Totoro

I will have it soon. probably today between 18-19 PM or tommorrow for sure

I Loved the victory points in skirmish mode, nice thing. I wish they added to all other similar games to the skirmish mode. In this way you could see what type of faction do you like to play more often and how good are you at it
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posted April 06, 2009 04:54 PM
Edited by Totoro at 16:54, 06 Apr 2009.

You hardly ever get bored of it if you step into online playing.
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Nebdar
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posted April 06, 2009 05:27 PM
Edited by Nebdar at 21:42, 10 Apr 2009.

i fear on-line playing

After all there are other skirmish games...

What an horrible support for player if i was an true lamer i would never found the patch for the game...

First imression well it is the same first part with some new add ons new units and buildings... but that don't change the fact that i like it and i am happy to have it.... it is mien all mine my precioussss

Any one can tell me about what happens when you catch Golum on the multiplayer/skirmish map
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DagothGares
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posted April 10, 2009 09:43 PM

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Besides, I love paper, rock, scissors strategy. All the best strategy games use them. Mostly RTS, though...
No... Dawn of war or warcraft three don't use it for example and if you don't label them as on of the best, nowadays, then maybe you should readjust your standards
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posted April 10, 2009 09:45 PM

I never played Dawn of War but Warcraft 3 sucks big time. (and I like Starcraft, so no, I'm not 'weird')
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DagothGares
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posted April 10, 2009 09:45 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 21:46, 10 Apr 2009.

You get the ring and you can summon Sauron or Galadriel, either way, you win, f you catch gollum, get the ring at your fortress and have tons of cash.

EDIT: does starcraft use rock-paper-scissors, death?
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posted April 10, 2009 09:47 PM
Edited by Totoro at 21:49, 10 Apr 2009.

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I never played Dawn of War but Warcraft 3 sucks big time.
Ditto

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either way, you win, f you catch gollum, get the ring at your fortress and have tons of cash.
That's not true... I've defeated Sauron/Galadriel numerous times in MP games. They don't last that long if there isn't a large army backing them up.
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DagothGares
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posted April 10, 2009 09:56 PM
Edited by DagothGares at 22:00, 10 Apr 2009.

Anyway, would you like giving a valid argument why rock-paper-scissors is good? Because it seems to me there's little strategy involved.

Say, I creat a few legions of uruks and there are these humans that responded in kind by creating legions of archers. He wins the initial battle simply because of that fact... The mark of true strategy!

Also, please refrain from saying something sucks, because you're not giving a rational argument on an internet forum.
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posted April 10, 2009 09:59 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 22:35, 10 Apr 2009.

It's been awhile, but I liked the overall feel of the 1st better. The first one was more limited, but being more limited meant you had to economize more. The 2nd felt too similar to any other RTS game. I had some good times in multiplayer with the 1st one. I didn't play the 2nd one very long so it could be that I just didn't fully get into it's beauty.

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posted April 11, 2009 12:43 AM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 03:50, 11 Apr 2009.

Yeah but the problem i have with improper rock paper scissors is that it encourages spamming. especially if the game has seperate upgrades for each.
it gets more interesting when it is complicated.


ontopic: i think the first game is better... i've heard that fans had to make the latest patch for the second.
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posted April 11, 2009 03:11 AM

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Anyway, would you like giving a valid argument why rock-paper-scissors is good?
What's rock-paper-scissors? I mean I know the concept, but what does it represent in strategy games?
Different damage types which makes some vulnerable while not others?

I think it enhances strategy simply because scouting becomes much more essential. (where "intelligence operations" as called in military games is most important)

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Also, please refrain from saying something sucks, because you're not giving a rational argument on an internet forum.
and saying that it is "one of the best" is not giving a rational argument either. no, popularity doesn't cut it, since when does popularity make something "good"?
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Mamgaeater
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posted April 11, 2009 04:25 AM

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Say, I creat a few legions of uruks and there are these humans that responded in kind by creating legions of archers. He wins the initial battle simply because of that fact... The mark of true strategy!


But in this case they take advantage of a fatal mistake in the plan.
By creating legions of a specific unit you have nothing that can deal with its counter. And so he only needs to build a legion of archers to defeat the army.

It is a common principle to only do what is nessesary. in rts talk i don't need to build a titan/eradicator hexapod/sauron/ultimate perk hero to win the game if i can do it just fine with a cheaper alternative.
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DagothGares
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posted April 11, 2009 05:20 PM

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Also, please refrain from saying something sucks, because you're not giving a rational argument on an internet forum.
and saying that it is "one of the best" is not giving a rational argument either. no, popularity doesn't cut it, since when does popularity make something "good"?
Sorry aout that, death
And popularity is a bad argument.

Rock-paper-scissors:
archers beat infantry
infantry beats cavalry
cavalry beats archers

That is BFME II, with the exception that heroes beat everyone and catapults beat buildings and buildings beat everyone except catapults.

Also, elven archers with upgrades beat everyone. EVERYONE
Anyway, I know too little of RTS's to actually continue this discussion, but to me it seems a bit bland, but maybe that's just me.
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Nebdar
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posted April 11, 2009 08:30 PM

And all of that means that you can not beat evreything and every one with just only one unit type... and thats a good thing... for the game expierience it makes it a little tougher
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Lexxan
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posted April 11, 2009 08:31 PM

Only played 2 and I lioked it
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