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posted June 04, 2016 08:03 AM |
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I watched my first Harry Potter movie. It was so-so. The characters are pretty heavily caricatured, but I can understand why the books would have sold so well for an adolescent audience. I think it did enough to bother me with watching the 2nd one.
Watched Deadpool also. Apparently all the talent shifted from the collapsing X-Men franchise to the single Deadpool film. Lots of fun. Good combo of darkness, humor, and meta humor on the film.
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posted June 04, 2016 09:25 AM |
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fred79 said:
watched "alice - through the looking glass" if you are an adult, avoid at all costs. if you are a child, you might not care about the horrible cgi, retarded storyline, etc, etc. one of the worst movies i've ever seen. made me lose respect for johnny depp as an actor;
Yeah fred79, like that wasn't obvious from the get go. Alice in Wonderland is a sick man's work (Carroll is even considered a drug addict and pedophile). A movie based on his book is bound to bad, and the first itteration only confirmed it in my eyes. I suspected the sequel to be even worse...
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posted June 04, 2016 10:26 AM |
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So, after 6 years, they couldn't stop themselves from making the sequel although "In Wonderland" sank like a stone in every aspect...Sigh.. Tim Burton's Alice was doomed from the first film, how they tried to turn it into a blockbuster with the good versus evil routine is very much against the higgledy piggledy spirit of the book. After watching it, I remember reading this imdb user and thinking, you nailed it like a pro, brother:
"Here is a tale of two Lewises. One wrote a small but great children's book that still delights, surprises and enchants. The other wrote a large, artistic series of children's books that push Christian sermons at us in the guise of adventure fantasy. The first author, Lewis Carroll, wrote Alice in Wonderland. The second, CS Lewis, wrote the Narnia saga. Here is what happened – in my theory – when the light bulb went on above the head of Linda Woolverton, who wrote the original screenplay for the new Alice in Wonderland.
"What if we turn Wonderland into Narnia? What if an older Alice revisits her dream world, now called Underland, and discovers a giant battle in progress between good and evil? We could have a Red Queen's army fighting a White Queen's, a Mad Hatter as saintly mediator, and a lot of Armageddon spectacle sure to bring in the youngsters and spawn a video game."
Thus is Hell born. You cannot believe the dreadfulness of Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland – gifted director takes on gaga script – until you see it. Enchantment has gone that-away. Once down the rabbit hole Alice, played with brave but doomed grace by Australian actress Mia Wasikowska, discovers that her old chums all walk a darkening land bearing Tolkienish/Lewisite names. The dormouse is Mallymkun, the Cheshire cat Chessur, the caterpillar Absolem. Soon the throng is joined by dragons who seem to have come from Avatar. The tea party has 10 seconds to flatter us with incipient charm – its chaotic table and moth-eaten March Hare suggest a Samuel Beckett revamp (that would be a good spin) – before it too is sacrificed to sword, sorcery and showdown. Johnny Depp's Mad Hatter shows promise for a little longer – this actor does deranged innocence better than anyone (Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood) – but finally he too drowns in the Sea of Tacky Bombast."
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posted June 04, 2016 04:14 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Apparently all the talent shifted from the collapsing X-Men franchise to the single Deadpool film.
Deadpool is part of the X-men franchise  It is a very very successful franchise overall. Wolverine is very popular, and with the latest being rated K-18 like Deadpool I think it will do well.
I do see some troubles ahead, if we take on the movies that focus on the group of X-men. Next movie will be in the 1990's. Another 10 years has passed. Why do they stuff 10 years into a single movie? And who don't people in the movies age appropiately? Every movie they have to tell what they have been doing all that time, and it takes away from the movie. Avengers feels like a solid continuation because previous events happened like a few months ago. I think X-men fail when they try to make all movies "stand-alone". Have to spend way too much time in the "set up"-phase.
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posted June 04, 2016 04:37 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
I watched my first Harry Potter movie. It was so-so. The characters are pretty heavily caricatured, but I can understand why the books would have sold so well for an adolescent audience.
This is not the only audience they sold well to.
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posted June 04, 2016 04:45 PM |
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@ blob and artu: the first movie(which was watchable) was certainly better than the second(which was actually good up until alice paid her first visit to the hatter. his facial-cgi was god-awful. from there it just went into the toilet; except for the one scene at the tea party table where they're all making fun of "time"). thankfully, i didn't pay to watch the second one. the first one might have been good on acid(3d in the theater with the cheshire cat was the best parts of the movie, i think).
i didn't expect much from either one; the first movie was watchable; the second one was an abortion.
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posted June 04, 2016 07:29 PM |
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A bit late on the bandwagon, but I watched Zootopia.
Pretty cute and funny film. Loved the Godfather reference in there.
But what puzzles me most is the "furry controversy" that I've been hearing about this film. It's not the first animated film where the characters are anthropomorphic animals. I guess SJW morons don't have anything else to do.
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posted June 04, 2016 09:49 PM |
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kipshasz said:
But what puzzles me most is the "furry controversy" that I've been hearing about this film. It's not the first animated film where the characters are anthropomorphic animals. I guess SJW morons don't have anything else to do.
To be honest, I don't understand that controversy either (like most people do) but for sure it has nothing to do with leftists. They love "Zootopia" for equal representation of men and women.
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posted June 04, 2016 09:58 PM |
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I guess furries are a sexual perversion that is not yet widely acceptable.
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posted June 04, 2016 11:13 PM |
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Minion said:
Blizzardboy said:
Apparently all the talent shifted from the collapsing X-Men franchise to the single Deadpool film.
Deadpool is part of the X-men franchise It is a very very successful franchise overall. Wolverine is very popular, and with the latest being rated K-18 like Deadpool I think it will do well.
I do see some troubles ahead, if we take on the movies that focus on the group of X-men. Next movie will be in the 1990's. Another 10 years has passed. Why do they stuff 10 years into a single movie? And who don't people in the movies age appropiately? Every movie they have to tell what they have been doing all that time, and it takes away from the movie. Avengers feels like a solid continuation because previous events happened like a few months ago. I think X-men fail when they try to make all movies "stand-alone". Have to spend way too much time in the "set up"-phase.
X-men franchise is currently suffering from a utter lack of vision, stagnancy and no continuity or whatsoever in their storylines. Allow me to expain.
1. Lack of vision: Both trilogies start by presenting the Human/Mutant conflict...and it never gets beyond it (with the exception of the botched attempt that was X-men 3). We never get to see Mutants accepted as part of the world and explore something beyong it. Always repeating the same, which leads us to point number 2.
2. Stagnancy: Human/Mutant conflict. Wolverine saving the day. Magneto and Mystique being conflicted characters, being a cornerstone of the movie. Professor x being kinapped by the bad guys. Cerebro used by the villian to find Mutants/kill humanity. Charles forgiving Magneto at the end of the movie because "he sees good in him", even after murdering thousand of innocent people without a single display of remorse.
Just how many times have we seeen the above in the X-men franchise? Did Apocalypse bring anything new to the table, aside from a not totally useless Ultron?
We need to see new stuff happening, we must see the story go beyond the human/mutant conflict and the same old characters (Magneto/Prof. X/Mystique/Wolverine). Surely the X-men (both character and story-wise) can do better?
3. Lack of continuity in the storylines: This one is easy. The original trilogy felt like one: X-men takes right after X-men 1, with the NY show bringing Striker forward with his plans, while Wolverine looks to know about his past, all while Prof. X has a philosophical debate with Magneto in order to redeem him. Hell, even X-men 3 with the cure stuff felt like a natural continuation.
In this new trilogy, however, we only have three isolated stories, with no straight connection between them. There're only a few references thrown here and there (hey look, Magneto made it to the papers after almost killing the US president! But don't worry, in the next 10 years nothing happened. Seriously?).
Fox is failing at what is Marvel is succeeding most: creating an organic universe, where each new installment feels either as a continuation of a previous one or introduces something new without breaking with what has been established before. The MCU is moving forward, the X-men franchise is popping random stories that feel apart from each other.
Honestly, if it wasn't for Deadpool saving their asses this year, the X-men franchise would be in dire straits....already! Let's not forget we live in a time where Comic Book Movies are thriving in the Box Office, the X-men should be way higher than they are right now.
On a completely unrelated note, I watched Warcraft this evening, but I'll post my review later on. Thinking about the X-men put me in the wrong mood
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posted June 05, 2016 01:00 AM |
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Never really thought about it, but yeah, the movies are constantly just tredding water with the unease between mutants and humans. Nothing actually happens.
I think it's a good thing that X-Men and Avengers are run by two separate studios. The Marvel Universe is so hilariously overcrowded with magical monkeys that you'd trip over them in the street. When everybody is super, nobody is.
The mutant-human relationship needs to do one of two things: go to hell in a handbasket or improve. Otherwise it's about as boring as Israel-Palestine on the news. Nobody cares.
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posted June 05, 2016 01:21 AM |
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Agreed
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posted June 05, 2016 10:53 PM |
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kipshasz said:
I guess furries are a sexual perversion that is not yet widely acceptable.
Well, that's the main reason why furries are a controversy. Most people generally connect furry fans with yiff (for those who don't know: yiff means pornography of furries), so furries are deviants in their eyes. Which is not to say they aren't right to some point, cause there are a lot of deviants in this fandom...
I'm not an actual furry (I think  ), but I do enjoy playing or watching games/movies with anthropomorphic characters. This probably comes (and for many other people also methinks) from the fact that I watched Disney movies as a kid and those had a lot of animals or anthropomorphic characters in them. I really enjoyed Zootopia. It's one of the best films in this category.
PS: Speaking of which, I wonder if the next animated Disney movie will stir people with it's ambiguous title. It's a polynesian word meaning 'sea' but I suspect people will exploit it in another way 
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posted June 05, 2016 11:00 PM |
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sorry to be off-topic and all, but aren't furrys and yiffs merely barely concealed fans/practitioners of beastiality? that's the idea i get from that stupid snow, anyway.
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posted June 06, 2016 12:10 PM |
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Who cares if we're accepted or not lol, THEY'RE SO ****ING CUTE I WANT TO HUG ONE TILL THEY DIE!
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posted June 06, 2016 01:51 PM |
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fred79 said:
sorry to be off-topic and all, but aren't furrys and yiffs merely barely concealed fans/practitioners of beastiality? that's the idea i get from that stupid snow, anyway.
No but one does not exclude the other.
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posted June 07, 2016 12:23 AM |
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Jupiter Ascending is underrated imo. The main character is a bit stale and the action sequences could have been better done, but I Ioved the universe and the dynastic fueds.
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posted June 07, 2016 01:25 AM |
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It's been like a year and a half since I've seen that movie and I remember almost nothing. There were immortal aristocrats trying to preserve the secret to immortality to themselves or something. I remember some chase scene which was so unbelievably over the top taking place in "our" Earth and then they erase people's memory (MIB rip off)... That's about it. So, certainly not very memorable.
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posted June 07, 2016 03:25 AM |
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I would want to see more movies that take place in that Sci Fi universe. Won't happen since it didn't perform well in theaters. I'd personally give it a 7.5 out of 10. The aristocrats were fun. Great villain imo. There was a major plot hole in it though: Sean Bean's character didnt die. I was soooo confused.
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posted June 07, 2016 12:03 PM |
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The premise for Jupiter Ascending was surprisingly good, pretty original, like top notch sci-fi even. Harvesting lesser planets for immortality and of course profit. Visuals were also excellent. Space ships designs were cool.
Beyond that the acting was bad, and the end half of the movie was a complete mess. Villain was just awful to watch, I couldn't tolerate him on screen. Entertaining movie in it's own way visually but meh, I give it maybe 5/10 (which seems to be way above the average tho)
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