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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 04, 2009 10:54 PM |
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albolabris you think you got time for another 3?
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albolabris
Known Hero
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posted October 04, 2009 11:07 PM |
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Sorry but not today. Had enough of Heroes for one sunday. Tomorrow maybe.
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted October 04, 2009 11:13 PM |
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Finished my last game with Clayman I won again.
My dougal wins Wulfstan.
thx for the games and gl to Clayman 
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Lepastur
Known Hero
The Red Taskmaster
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posted October 05, 2009 12:23 AM |
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Edited by Lepastur at 00:25, 05 Oct 2009.
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Definitively, today wasn't my day  BTW, I lost my tow first games with Larry 
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Torre de Marfil Foro / Portal - La Comunidad
hispana más completa sobre la saga Might&Magic.
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LordMichal
Known Hero
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posted October 05, 2009 01:07 AM |
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My opponents pls contact me on my msn - lordmichal1@hotmail.com
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted October 05, 2009 07:25 AM |
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Ok me and Veco are scheduled for wed 4pm my time (eastern standard time). Need to set up some more for Wed/Thur as those are the days I can play and I want to get in as many as possible. So drop me an hcm if possible and we will arrange something.
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Message received.
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted October 05, 2009 02:11 PM |
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Finished my first game with Elias Maluco
I won with Sinitar against his Gorshak.
It was damn hard
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 05, 2009 02:12 PM |
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Replays or it didn't happen 
Wow you guys have surprised me in a pleasant way. Will have to go through all those games now 
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Elias_Maluco
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 05, 2009 04:30 PM |
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Finished my first game with Elias Maluco
I won with Sinitar against his Gorshak.
It was damn hard
It wanst that hard for you. I was naive and got shatter-destructive and all anti-destructive skill ans artifacts I could get. You got dark and summoning and owned me with puppets and frenzies and and phoenix and crystals. Very, very mean.
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted October 05, 2009 09:17 PM |
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Let`s not forget about the three resists of puppet master on chieftains in a row  with only 15 % resist. Meanwhile you killed 1/3 of my army or more...
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FoolishMan
Known Hero
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posted October 06, 2009 03:36 PM |
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http://rapidshare.com/files/288802798/leprator_duel_1.sav
http://rapidshare.com/files/289374429/leprator_duel_2.sav
http://rapidshare.com/files/289386687/michael_duel_1.sav
http://rapidshare.com/files/289387130/michael_duel_2.sav
http://rapidshare.com/files/289391351/michael_duel_3.sav
replays of games i played so far
finished 2 with lepastur,both i won pretty lucky
and all 3 games with LordMichal that went 2 to 1 in his favour
larry fanoga
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted October 06, 2009 07:11 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 19:14, 06 Oct 2009.
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Jinxer vs. Elvin
Final Result = 2 - 1
Game #1
Haven vs. Dungeon
I was pretty skeptical still about this whole arena style game play.. and was not at all happy with the 25 Champ Cap Restriction.. Very Limiting on Haven. Especially since Training is there Special. Whereas Dungeon seems to not be limited at all... infact seems they have access to virtually EVERY spell. Elvin was doing 990 Damage with each spell cast.. while I had nothing that could match that. Only thing I had going for me was sheer numbers. Elvin didnt buy full army.. and I also went Expert Dark.. and Had Mass slow and Mass confusion.. Both helped quite a bit. Just had to outlast his mana. Still the battle was really close. As you will see in the replay... So Maybe the Balance is Good AfterAll? I am keeping my hopes up. WINNER Jinxer
Game #2
Orcs vs. Necro
Not much to say here.. Expert Shatter Dark.. doesnt stop crap.. tent not strong enough to remove any dark spells.. None enough options to raise Spell power so might over magic perk can help.. So I conceeded and moved on to game 3. WINNER Elvin
Game #3
Acadamy vs. Dungeon
This was another interesting matchup.. With limited Levels.. I was not able to do my normal Acadamy build, so decided to go for risk and go Summon Magic only.. no light. FireTrap/Bird/Phanton/ArcaneShield can be nice comboes for Acadamy.. was only 1 magic protection artifact available in merchant...so I took it. Ofcourse I had the 61% protection mini arts on all no magic proof troops.. and 75% built in protection on the other units.. + 15% protection from perk. But I never understand the Dungeon specialty.. cause the magic still hits just as hard.. so always wonder whats the point in wasting my resources on such protections?? Anyways.. seems Elvin found the Banishment ring.. so my Bird only had 450 hp.. and I imagine he had Implo or some empowered spell that could kill my bird in one shot.. so I was reluctant to waste a spell cast to summon him.. but late in game I had to try.. Turns out.. between the Bird and MOTW and RAISE Dead.. I bearly squeaked by. WINNER Jinxer
I will let Elvin post the Replays..
I am an old school dog.. trying to learn new tricks here.. and adapt to this new arena playing style.. it isnt gonna happen over night.. But I am making an effort. Atleast I got some wins on the board this time
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted October 06, 2009 10:56 PM |
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What a big surprise, congratulation Jinxer ... Still waiting to see how it was, usually winner is more interested in post replays Jinxer defended the value of lord ranking status
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted October 06, 2009 11:27 PM |
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Well... I am Lord Ranked in Heroes.. By Far I am only a footman in this style of play. LIke learning a whole new game.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2009 12:01 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:02, 07 Oct 2009.
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The first was mostly decided to lack of mana and luck on the best moments, on champions and crossbows. Funny how I made the mistake of using dark ritual before visiting library, I'd have 20 more mana that should be sufficient. Still close fun game.
Second was abandoned early, not much to tell. Had good power for my dark, mass endurance and turtled waiting for orcs to come through choke points. Made a gamble with defile and had a double frenzy Still no elation, swiftness or resistance for the orcs. Oh yeah and he used again warmachines without flaming, what's up with that?
Dungeon vs academy was the most interesting by far, I went for a might approach supported by ignited fireballs - however little mana and no sorcery. As much as I was lucky getting defense I had no enlightenment. Razzak's golems proved hell to take down and with his bottomless mana I knew the odds were with him halfway through the game. Only started believing I might win when the mistresses retaliated against them with luck. Unfortunately few lucky hits/morale early when it counted but it helped a bit in the end. In the end I gambled against magic mirror and I wasted 18 mana on his gargoyles, couldn't afford to keep the phoenix alive knowing he had regeneration. Later I realized I also had a good lightning bolt so again my oversight was costly. But in all this chaos of luck and morale anything could happen
Say watching the replay again the gremlins and mages in jinxer's side die since they were revived via raise dead. Maybe I should count this a draw?
Replays
On a second note I am considering making Razzak start with normal army just like I tweaked Ossir. His golems are nigh indestructible without adding a pack of them on the stack.
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted October 07, 2009 02:41 AM |
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Edited by sq79 at 02:41, 07 Oct 2009.
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On a second note I am considering making Razzak start with normal army just like I tweaked Ossir. His golems are nigh indestructible without adding a pack of them on the stack.
Raazak is slightly different from ossir, academy heroes are generally hopeless against most of the races except dungeon and academy, raazak is the best hope for them. The battle was close enough to be considered balanced isn't it ? Higher spellpower from dungeon, or battle frenzy for academy would win the game for either side.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2009 12:21 PM |
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I am not talking from this battle alone, you should know me better than that.
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albolabris
Known Hero
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posted October 07, 2009 12:50 PM |
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A Lord Ranked player that doesn't know how Irresistible Magic works? Yellow card for that
Don't want to flame you Jinxer so don't take it as an attack or personal matter because it's not. Congrats and I'm happy for your result with Elvin but much more less happy about your comment.
First and most important thing is that there was a lot of time to comment the balance issues. This period has ended and Tournament is under way so it's not a pretty good time to do that, especially after one game without comparison with 15 other that some of us here have on their backs. Second, if you are not experienced in this type of game play I suggest that you think twice before you comment the balance, especially when you write something like this:
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...and was not at all happy with the 25 Champ Cap Restriction.. Very Limiting on Haven. Especially since Training is there Special. Whereas Dungeon seems to not be limited at all... infact seems they have access to virtually EVERY spell.
1. Think it's not a secret to anybody that Paladin ( or Champion ) is the best level 6 creature. Horses...long long nothing...than the rest...The dmg provided by 25 of them is the biggest value in battle on this map. If we let to train 40 of those murderers and you split them to 2x20 they will win almost every battle just by themselves and i can assure you about that.
2. Haven is very strong as always and it's not different on this map.
3. Racial skills are not balanced since the H5 came out if we take some circumstances under consideration so comparing them has little sense.
4. Dungeon is limited a lot by not having the inside Town Trade Guild and bonus amount of gold to buy more artifacts than others.
5. Winning here when you have Dungeon is not an easy thing and that is also no secret to anybody that played a bit more on this map. That's why access to many spells is provided.
You should be very grateful to Elvin for this map because it's made so, that even a much more less experienced played in battles can win with the one that focuses mostly on them. That's the whole point and beauty of it, it's for everybody. Skill is very important here but we also have the Heroes randomness. I know how much time he spent on making this map, tweaking it many times and doing massive amount of tests that I and others that you know also took part in. And now you comment the balance after your first Tournament series with one of the higher experienced players, that to be frankly, should crush you and would do it easily I think if this map wasn't made also for fun. More to say, you won 2 - 1, what's the problem than? Can image your comment if you would loose 0 - 3. Deja vu from Arena thread i think. So, please, play, report your games by providing replays and only pure facts from builds and battle process without the bonus balance part because that doesn't help anyone and has little meaning right now. Think we all should stick to that...
I saw those replays and really you where very lucky in the first one by having lucky strikes on black dragon. The second you lost badly because your build was totally unsuitable against Necro, not because Shatter doesn't help much. To your information about the third one, you had a total of 72 and 88% magic protection on mini art bearers and golems+genies accordingly. Elvin had expert irresistible magic for 100% against Academy so your final protection was 36 and 44%. You had that first value thanks to the resources provided. Else you would get 100% dmg from spells rather than 64%. More to that, consider the option to take Magnetic Golems against Dungeon because that would also make some difference.
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In my opinion we shouldn't make any changes about the Razzak Golems.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 07, 2009 02:22 PM |
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Don't be hard on him, he's adapting But yes for 200+ games he's missing a few details.
Meanwhile I watched your replays. Haven one shouldn't have crossbows vulnerable from the start But for all the good dark timing you still came on top, good job. Of course had the fireball killed those pallies I'm not so sure you'd have made it.
Stronghold vs Dungeon Lepastur didn't focus on the right units from the start and forgot how scary the centaurs could be in melee. A risky plan would be to block executioners with the furies and puppeted shamans instead but I think I would have attacked cyclopes with furies(for rage) and also attacked with executioners from the other side so that they'd retaliate on paokai and decrease their luck. Could have worked too. At any rate dungeon vs orcs is hard and you were more experienced on how it plays out.
In the final one I've already made the mistake of picking reds and paid for it But he also had to cast divine guidance on them and the result wasn't all that good for two hero casts, mass haste/RM or just frenzy would have been a lot better. Also you were lucky to have defense and that Lepastur raised the champions that had extra physical vulnerability from the spell.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted October 07, 2009 03:06 PM |
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Don't be hard on him, he's adapting But yes for 200+ games he's missing a few details.
Out of my 240 game I think maybe 3-5 of them have been as Dungeon And all those games were prolly within my first 20 games.. so not hard to imagine that I am not an expert on Dungeon Mechanics.
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