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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted March 10, 2002 10:28 PM |
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Player A and B are team 1, C and D are team2. Player A defeats Player C. Then Player D defeats both player A and B. That is Player C is defeated but his team has won the game.
Who will report loss and who will report win?
in all case i ll have a win because im the player D
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted March 10, 2002 11:49 PM |
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allied games
Doesnt matter if a player on a winning team is defeated; if the team wins, both players win.
So in madmartigans case, Players C and D both submit wins vs A & B. Remember though, only one win report per player, so eg.. Player C submits win vs A, Player D submits win vs B. This you arrange with each other.
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attila
Known Hero
Young Warrior
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posted March 10, 2002 11:49 PM |
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Well Snice players C and D team won they get the wins. SO
the player with Highest points report on winning team
reports with losser on other team with higest points then
the other 2 report. Or thats how i have always done it or
was told to.
Attila
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted March 11, 2002 12:12 AM |
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One silly question here but I'm a complete newbie in online gaming...
If I have 3.2 version of SOD, can I still play 1.4 ROE?
I installed first ROE, not upgrade it, then SOD and upgrade for it...
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted March 11, 2002 12:59 AM |
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As long as everyone has the most recent versions, u can play since they are compatible. (ROE 1.4, AB 2.2, SOD 3.2, complete 4.0)
/Stefan
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"Youre zeroes and ones, youre wrong where im right"
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted March 13, 2002 10:10 AM |
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In regards to reporting for alied games;
Many many players report 2 wins 2 losses PER PLAYER and not per game.
I have on several occasions had this suggested to me and when I refused was not ask to play with those players in allied games again.
Another thing is many experienced players take advantage of newer players by having them feed them the entire game where it gets so bad that the newer player isn't really doing much of anything except turning the more experienced player into a God.
It is for these 2 reasons that ToH should stop accept allied games.
Players in general cannot be trusted.
-Mocara
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Titan_888
Known Hero
Wind of Change
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posted March 13, 2002 10:20 AM |
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In regards to reporting for alied games;
It is for these 2 reasons that ToH should stop accept allied games.
-Mocara
Mocara Mocara Mocara...
Are you aware of what you are sayin here?
well.. you dont get my vote!
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 13, 2002 03:17 PM |
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In regards to reporting for alied games;
Many many players report 2 wins 2 losses PER PLAYER and not per game.
i have played tons of 2o2s and i never saw anyone suggesting that.
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Another thing is many experienced players take advantage of newer players by having them feed them the entire game where it gets so bad that the newer player isn't really doing much of anything except turning the more experienced player into a God.
True .Many play that "feeding" strategy (not only in a team: 1 experienced + 1 newbie ) but on a good map vs. a good opponent team , that Strategy wont help you much . That is the usual criss cross Strategy. Thats why i don't like criss cross maps much.
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It is for these 2 reasons that ToH should stop accept allied games.
i couldn't disagree more. 2o2s are the most fun u can get and it would be a wrong decision to forbidd em for toh.
2o2-addict-schaaf
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 13, 2002 10:15 PM |
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Abuse of system
Yes I agree Motor allied games are fun, however there is a growing trend of players abusing the system.
IN the Might vs. Magic, tounry there was TONs of players reporting several wins for a single 2vs2 game. Not only did that give unfair advantage to the players in the MightvsMagic tourny but it also boosted there rankings much more than it should have.
As long as you have people abusing the system and willing to cheat the system to try to get farther ahead than they deserve, then there will always be people ruining the good stuff for others. I think there needs to be stricter penalties for anyone caught multiple reporting for single games. If it was within my power there woulda been about 15 players removed from MightvsMagic for multiple reporting 2vs2 games.
Jinxer
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 13, 2002 10:59 PM |
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If it was within my power there woulda been about 15 players removed from MightvsMagic for multiple reporting 2vs2 games.
Jinxer
multiple reporting = fake reporting = cheating
and we all know where cheaters belong to
just my opinion
Motorschaaf
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Mocara
Famous Hero
what?
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posted March 14, 2002 06:06 AM |
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I agree w/moto.
It is REALLY sad that one of these fake reporters is the favorite to win the whole tourney.
I sure hope Frank beats him.
Otherwise a cheater will be rewarded.
-Mocara
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 14, 2002 06:29 AM |
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Mr. Vesuvius I have a question, how come you put me up in one of the finalist for MM then bump me out late.
If you were going to put my name up it should stand because you said no more purchases.
I think I know your answer.
I have an idea & thats to challenge whoever bumped me off with or without my heroes for my spot back.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 14, 2002 07:35 AM |
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Mr. Vesuvius please ignore my question & go to the next thank you yes.
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destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted March 14, 2002 09:29 AM |
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Ok this is annoying... lol
Allied games:
2o2 = 1o1 + 1o1
highest rank reports highest ranked opponent...
it is the way... the fair way.. and should always be the way.
2o2 means ONE team wins.. not 1 player wins 2 games.. that is called FFA..
Anyway 2o2 are the most fun games of heroes I think I have ever been a part of and this reporting 2wins per player is just plain and simply WRONG!!
2o2 means you dedicate 7+ hours probably.. to a great and fun game... that you can play 2 emperors and 2 recruits and all is good.. highest rank reports...
I learned almost all my heroes skill (which may not be much) from allied games with Andi, Bpanik, Dracos, Motor, ummm oh yes my most influencial ally Tyris123 (who convinced me the hex grid was good for combat)...
what a waste of time to play a 2o2 map when your ally doesn't even get to fight an opponent!. silly really..
8 hours.. no fight... just supply..
COME ON... if you need points that badly play me
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The Dead Walk!!!
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 14, 2002 05:02 PM |
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what a waste of time to play a 2o2 map when your ally doesn't even get to fight an opponent!. silly really..
Let me guess u mean a crisscross map
Btw. I allways wondered why some players don't play 2o2s.
is it just because they take much longer than a 1o1 ? (i know some prefer to win 2 games/hour on dw ).
Question : - would it be possible for homm4 to install a 2o2" option in the "subtourneys " - box that u have to pick when u played a 2o2 ?.
That would make catching fake 2o2 reporters easier i guess.
Questionschaaf
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zud
Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
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posted March 14, 2002 06:07 PM |
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why I don't usually play 2 vs 2
I just have never gotten into playin em, longer to wait between my moves and longer games, also the problems with getting everyone together to finish if you have to save and the reloading of games while playing when one drops.
but i prolly should try em more, and randoms, but I dont 
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Winner or Whiner?
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freakmebaby
Known Hero
Rude by nature
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posted March 14, 2002 06:29 PM |
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in replay 2 all ... !!!!!
1)first thing about allies i think its fair since its a very long (and fun ) game that the report is like this (if all players agree) A and B are team 1 & C and D r team 2.
lets say team 1 wins so C reports a lose to A and a lose 2 B , and D reports a lose to A and B , and A and B do same just in a wins ... i think this way its fair b/c its like 2 did a 1v1 with C and a 1v1 with D and won them both so it alos comes out the same time like 2 1v1 games.
2)about the quit=lose , that i dont agrre. (i think they sould not be allowd 2 write it at all b/c then the new players who dont know any better just listen 2 the guy and report a lose)
3) there are peole like me and others that enjoy and have fun playing fast games and not only 4 toh ponits just the type of a fast game with few armys and not super stong heroes with all the spells like impolsion make the game a better game .
sry my english is not that good
freakmebaby (israel )
p.s Mocara i just wanna say i like ur messages there very funnny
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 14, 2002 06:42 PM |
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... i think this way its fair b/c its like 2 did a 1v1 with C and a 1v1 with D and won them both so it alos comes out the same time like 2 1v1 games.
i think its fake reporting and players that did it to get more points or more cash in m+m belong where all the other cheaters are listened. --> HOS
Fakereporterssuckandspoilothersfunschaaf
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chubby051
Promising
Known Hero
King of All That Are Fat
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posted March 14, 2002 08:35 PM |
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Freakmebaby,
How can you justify reporting two games when you only played one. What you are saying is, if you played ONE 4o4 allied game (which really isn't possible) and your team won, you would report 4 wins. With your method of reporting you play as a team but you report as an individual. Its not right, thats not a team game. If anything, with a 2o2 each player should get half the points for one win. For example, if Player A (wins) earns 20 pts and Player C (lose) loses 20 pts. Then if Player A + Player B (wins) earn 20 pts as a team and Player C + Player D (lose) lose 20 pts as a team. Therefore Player A and Player B split the points earned (each gets 10 pts) and Player C and Player D split the points lost (each loses 10). Given this is just an example and the points were just made up. I have no idea how this would be put into TOH, because I know little about computers. But anyways, stick to the rules that were created by TOH and quick advancing yourself up the pts ladder dishonestly.
PS, if you report your games the way you mentioned, you do realize you just admitted you cheat.
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Trees Grow Taller in the Shade
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freakmebaby
Known Hero
Rude by nature
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posted March 14, 2002 10:48 PM |
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hold 1 sec...
first what i think is right dosnt mean that i play that way, i just think thats the way it sould be i think yes if u play a 4o4 there sould be 4 reports , i dont think it sould go by the game , it sould go by the players in the game . and look u dont have 2 agrre with me its just the way i see the things as must fair,
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