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freakmebaby
Known Hero
Rude by nature
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posted March 14, 2002 10:57 PM |
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tha half thing sounds good
i think its a good idae what u said about the half thing this way its really a team. like say i play with a good player and on the aother team there is also a good player but also a weak player , so why do i need 2 play teams ...... if i win i get few ponits from the weak player by rules of TOH . then i can just play a 1v1 with weak player , but ur way is best b/c then if we win they lose same ponits but me and my ally spilt the ponits and all r happy and then its worth it 2 play 2o2 .
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 14, 2002 11:17 PM |
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but ur way is best b/c then if we win they lose same ponits but me and my ally spilt the ponits and all r happy and then its worth it 2 play 2o2 .
In my opinion Its allways worth to play a 2o2  .
If u are looking for fast and many points then i recommend:
DON'T PLAY 2o2s.
If u wanna have 8 hours straight fun then i recommend :
PLAY 2o2s AS MUCH AS U CAN
2o2junkieschaaf
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Madriver
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 15, 2002 12:52 AM |
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just an opinion
freakmebaby was just posting his opinion on how he thinks it should be, not how he plays and reports the game. I've played with him and he does play honestly.
I do agree with him somewhat though, in a 2o2 you are playing twice as many people, it takes twice as much time, so it does seem right to give twice as much for the victory. But on the other hand there are two of you on a team so the victory gets shared. Maybe chubby had a good point, maybe the total points for the game should get added and then split evenly, that way noone gets stuck reporting against a weaker player (if there is one).
But this argument is only valid for people who care about the points, which seems to be mostly the lower to mid level players who use the points to gauge their improvement. Most of the players who post here and say that they don't care about the points are the veteran players who have alot of them. Myself, I pay attention to the points because I just started and I want a neat little icon by my name for the next season . But, I also like getting spanked by the veterans every now and then just for the learning experience.
These are sweeping generalisations, and I know there will be many who disagree, but it is what I have noticed in my brief time playing for TOH.
By the way, 2o2 are great games, I think its the best way to play. I guess I'm lucky I haven't had anyone suggest feeding yet, that will really piss me off!!!! (I'm a player not a mule).
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destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted March 15, 2002 02:42 AM |
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I'd just like to know...
Has anyone hear ever seen player A kill Player C and D
Then player B also kills Player C and D..
THis situation maybe this double report would work.. but as I see it .. this can never happen.
If you want to get quick points and long games.. go for 4way ffa..
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The Dead Walk!!!
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 15, 2002 05:15 AM |
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I know an easier way to get points.
Actually it is even easier to get quick points by hiding under a subgate waiting for your opponent to walk helplessly by with NO army! And then do a suprise attack and kill him 
hehe
Just kidding Destro
I will defenately learn from that game.
NOarmyAndstupidEnoughToStandNextToASubgateSCHAAF
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RedSoxFan3
Admirable
Legendary Hero
Fan of Red Sox
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posted March 15, 2002 05:20 AM |
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That has to be the longest name I have ever seen given to Motorschaff.
TooManyNicknamesSchaff
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Go Red Sox!
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted March 15, 2002 05:21 AM |
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come on people
Too bad if the 2v2 takes longer to play. Its what you wish to play. Does that mean we have to make rules now where large maps are given 1.5 more points and XL are given 2x more points because they take longer?
Then perhaps we should make a rule if you lose in less than 2 weeks you lose half the points. Or maybe make the rule where the points of loss or win is modified based on how many hours it took to play the game, on a lograrithmical scale, with variance on turn length and time limit.
Come on people.
KISS
Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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chubby051
Promising
Known Hero
King of All That Are Fat
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posted March 15, 2002 06:05 AM |
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I didn't mean to lash out like that but in my opinion reporting 4 games when you only played one isn't fair to others in TOH. Destro put it perfectly. As for what Ves said I agree totally. The choice of game played is up to you and the amount of time it takes to play that game should have nothing to do with points. 1 game, 1 report per player. Thats the only fair way. I myself really don't care about the points, I just don't like to see people take advantage of a good thing.
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Trees Grow Taller in the Shade
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 15, 2002 01:09 PM |
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Aculias
Send an email, rather that airing it, it solves the prob, and I'm sure the people involved would respect it a whole lot more than a public accusation/question.
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Zud
Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
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posted March 15, 2002 01:22 PM |
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Edited By: Zud on 15 Mar 2002
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I erased the thread
Acualis,
you mentioned to ignore the msg, so I deleted them. I think with theses kind of issuies one should write an email.
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Winner or Whiner?
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Titan_888
Known Hero
Wind of Change
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posted March 15, 2002 01:36 PM |
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i dont agree rychee... isnt this board used to give us all some sort of insigt in whats goin on... Personally i would like to know why Aculias was booted for MM.. and i think bringing it here in public its where it belongs.
i saw the thread started by Aculias... and i didnt see any answer from either Jinxer or Vesuvius. i dont call that respect...
Maybe if it was me that opened it... i would have got an answer...
We have nothing to hide from eachother... or do we?
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freakmebaby
Known Hero
Rude by nature
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posted March 15, 2002 01:45 PM |
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2 Motorschaaf
since u dont care about ponits as u said and like 2 play 4 fun a 2o2 then why would u care 2 report 2 lose/win ?
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freakmebaby
Known Hero
Rude by nature
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posted March 15, 2002 01:53 PM |
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Vesuvius ur right.
i think ... that it would a gr-8 thing ,if u would get 4 ponits 4 a bigger map (not that i like big maps) u get more ponits 4 a bigger map but not 4 time played , this way alos more pepole we will play more big maps . and also wont feel bad about other people that play M maps and get more ponits b/c they play more games is same time ,
maby for heroes 4 it sould be that way ..
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MidnightWraith
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 15, 2002 02:52 PM |
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Playing Hide and Seek
just to add some more complexity how about reporting 3 player ffa, particularly on randoms?
Originally i played this as the person who comes first reports to person who comes last. The person who comes second doesnt get a win or loss. Unfortunately one sid-effect of this is when one player gets a significant lead, eg good utopia, the other players can reduce chance of a loss by hiding (on randoms anyway) and try to reduce their foot print on the map eg, avoid any type of doors and just work local area. So the other unfortunate player who keeps expanding gets knocked out first. I saw this happen several times and one time suprised the player trying to hide by doing view air to track them down and nailed them I wanna play heroes, not hide and seek. Needs to be incentive at any time of the game to play aggressivly.
So my rule now, is - u report to the person who u kill or get killed by. This means that there is always incentive to play a positive game. If ur coming 2nd, hunt down the person trailing in 3rd (by stats/gold etc) and take them out for a win, even though the strongest player may eventually win the entire game. Puts pressure back on the leading player too, he will miss out on a 2nd win by being complacent and not tracking down the weakest player. Since then, never had ppl hiding.
Having said that, ffa on randoms is a restart nightmare so after the 6 hours (yep) of restarts the other day i wont be doing it for a while.
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andiangelsla...
Disgraceful
Famous Hero
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posted March 15, 2002 03:17 PM |
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not accepting 2on2s, thats sick...
that how 2on2 reports work: team wins, 1 looser reports to 1 winner and 2nd looser to 2nd winner, wheres the problem there.
dont play 2on2s for points, play for fun, generally dont play for points, it takes out much of the fun (not speaking for pink birds thou  )
midnite, ya the restarts sucked lol, for 3 or 4way we kinda would need a template with strong monsters seperating areas, ring and specially the monolith one sucked of course.
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted March 15, 2002 04:45 PM |
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waawaa
I never saw this post by aculias that people are talking about? Whatever it was, if it is a cheating complaint it goes to Honor Council, not the message board. I havent heard an email about it either.
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Motorschaaf
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted March 15, 2002 04:50 PM |
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since u dont care about ponits as u said and like 2 play 4 fun a 2o2 then why would u care 2 report 2 lose/win ?
simple : its cheating to report 2 games when u only played 1
Motorschaaf
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted March 15, 2002 06:03 PM |
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Is it only me or was ves post sarcastic, it seems like all ppl havent figured that out..
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i think ... that it would a gr-8 thing ,if u would get 4 ponits 4 a bigger map (not that i like big maps) u get more ponits 4 a bigger map but not 4 time played , this way alos more pepole we will play more big maps . and also wont feel bad about other people that play M maps and get more ponits b/c they play more games is same time ,
maby for heroes 4 it sould be that way ..
As for the rest i couldnt agree with u more motor, U cant report two wins when you only have played one game. Makes no sense. 1 game = 1 report. Thats it. If u dont like it dont play 2v2 or play them for fun. 2 reports is multiply reporting and therefor cheating.
And i also think all of this is sooo stupid, if u want your points sooo bad then play 13425252 1v1 on medium maps. Preferly rush maps so can get even more points faster now wouldnt that be great!?! Myself (And i know many many others) play what i/we think is fun, TOH or not doesnt matter much. Because we play heroes3 because we think its fun not how we can achieve points the fastest way.
As for 3ffa as ive understood it the winner reports to the player that got killed first and vice versa, the guy that got killed after that ("middle guy") doesnt report at all.
/Stefan
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted March 15, 2002 07:09 PM |
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First of all Aculis, the list I posted on might vs Magic was NOT a FINAL list of people making it to Finals round it was a list of the TOP 12 as of that update. Yes it said NO more games could be reported but IT did NOT say that NO more purchases of exp would be accepted. As more people sent in there EXP purchases you fell below was qualified to be in finals so you were removed from list.
You simple jump to conculsions without knowing facts. Thats why you should have e-mailed me and asked and I would have explained it to you.
There Titan I have replyed to him. I was not ignoring Aculis he posted right after that to IGNORE his post so I did as he asked.
Jinxer
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted March 15, 2002 09:45 PM |
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Thats all you had to say, intead of erasing my threads & I know you wont answer my e-mails.
I am glad you made Titan proud by fiiiinally answering my reply & I know this tournament was disorganized so I am not mad.
All I wanted was that simple answer instead of all this ruckus yes.
I would love to know who erased my thread since I thought it was vesuvius.
I think it's none of their business why I am complaining since you proved that you dont really give a rats.
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