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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 31, 2010 11:43 AM |
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Red rush can easily happen by mistake because its a rule that is not used that often. It should not result in an automatic loss. (some saves would be nice) Unless you gain some kind of advantage by gaining some important knowledge the obvious solution is to load. In case its not obvious that he would go in the direction of the opponent because he cant use the new troops the solution could be that he is not allowed to go there day 1 and attack even with old troops. Have in mind that their rr rule just forbid using new troops to attack opponent, so he could just dismiss the new troops before attacking if he didnt have a scout that could reach. It shouldnt be possible to escape a sure loss just because of a situation like this.
About misplaced guards: I totally agree that its breaking rule to enter in this case. Normally I would try to settle it somehow but if they want an undeserved win for the red rush I believe we should claim the win for the FMG situation. Whoever broke rule first should be the loser.
A new game is a bad solution but not totally unacceptable. A loss for ILJ is totally unacceptable.
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Protos
Known Hero
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posted March 31, 2010 06:15 PM |
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I think Maretti is 100% correct. 
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uruk-hai
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 31, 2010 09:52 PM |
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Whoever broke rule first should be the loser.
Man you make sense.  But IMHO because both broke rules for some reason, maybe new game is the best option here.
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i_love_jesus
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 01, 2010 01:43 AM |
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Whoever broke rule first should be the loser.
IMO both broke rules,and whoever broke rule first for some reason,
the affect of broken rules is not bring important results on game.
I have more army, better stats, pretty more movements.
So i have to got the win.
It's more fair than start a new game.
Second best is load game and have final battle again.
The worst one is new game.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted April 01, 2010 07:38 AM |
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HW team leader offers 2 options:
1) as far as both players made mistakes in rules, to play new game instead.
2) as far as both players made mistakes in rules, to play new game till 2 wins and WCL will start with 1:0 bonus.
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fank0
Known Hero
There are no limits
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posted April 01, 2010 09:09 AM |
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So, he practically made one offer
I do not think this is quite acceptable. In my opinion we should demand either an instant win for breaking FMG rule or load before red rush was made.
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And you believed that?
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black_knight
Known Hero
LT League
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posted April 01, 2010 09:20 AM |
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I though about 1:0 till 2 wins too. Enough fair.
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suicidpeiarba
Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
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posted April 02, 2010 12:27 AM |
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Rightness
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Whoever broke rule first should be the loser.
Man you make sense. But IMHO because both broke rules for some reason, maybe new game is the best option here.
It's impossible to think that both broke the rules. If we have a game, then if one player broke a rule, than the game is finished, and the opponent is the winner. So, Aldegir broke FMG rule in playing. As a matter of fact, the game was finished in that moment. The fact that i_love_jesus than broke another rule doesn't make part of the game, because the game was finished by FMG rule violation. So, the match has one winner: i_love_jesus. No replay, no draw.
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uruk-hai
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 02, 2010 12:41 AM |
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Whatever, I stopped playing for wcl for couple reasons and one of them is a game I had where my opponent broke this exact rule TWICE in the same game and nothing was done about it.
I'm done discussing this stupid rule and hope the best for wcl players. I'm sure the fair decision will be taken. gl ILJ
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted April 02, 2010 12:32 PM |
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...and nothing was done about it.
patience, just patience. I hope you will be back as soon as automatic system will be up 
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted April 02, 2010 12:37 PM |
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I stopped playing for wcl for couple reasons and one of them is a game I had where my opponent broke this exact rule TWICE in the same game and nothing was done about it.
I'm done discussing this stupid rule and hope the best for wcl players. I'm sure the fair decision will be taken. gl ILJ
Hum, isnt it more logical to stop playing with this perseon only, instead of ditching WCL?
WCL is what you define it for yourself. You can play only with 2-3 guys and still report your games.Not because you desperately want to be in Top 3 place. But because you like the idea to have something like a diary of your games.
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uruk-hai
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 02, 2010 02:39 PM |
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I stopped playing for wcl for couple reasons and one of them is a game I had where my opponent broke this exact rule TWICE in the same game and nothing was done about it.
I'm done discussing this stupid rule and hope the best for wcl players. I'm sure the fair decision will be taken. gl ILJ
Hum, isnt it more logical to stop playing with this perseon only, instead of ditching WCL?
WCL is what you define it for yourself. You can play only with 2-3 guys and still report your games.Not because you desperately want to be in Top 3 place. But because you like the idea to have something like a diary of your games.
I said I stopped for couple reasons so why don't you read carefully before being a smart....
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted April 03, 2010 03:41 PM |
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I said I stopped for couple reasons so why don't you read carefully before being a smart....
Whatever the reasons, they are yours and i am not telling you what to do. I am just making comments about WCL in genneral.
And for being smart... well, i am glad you dont play at WCL anymore. Too many angry people there.
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uruk-hai
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 03, 2010 04:05 PM |
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Remember that you started to quote my msg that you had nothing to do with. Stay of my back and mind your own business. Btw, I was wrong when I said smart in a sarcastic way, I shouldn't have said it at all.
Enough going off topic, sorry all.
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted April 03, 2010 04:48 PM |
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Remember that you started to quote my msg that you had nothing to do with
I didnt know that in a forum you need special invitation to give your oppinion.
And i just cant understand from what you got so offended? Whats wrong with my statement?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 03, 2010 07:44 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 19:45, 03 Apr 2010.
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Remember that you started to quote my msg that you had nothing to do with
I didnt know that in a forum you need special invitation to give your oppinion.
And i just cant understand from what you got so offended? Whats wrong with my statement?
Maybe you should re-read his comment again then.
He clearly stated why he stopped playing for WCL:
It was NOT because of the cheater, it was because WCL did nothing about him.
So not playing this guy again won't change the fact (for him) WCL didn' react in a proper way....
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted April 03, 2010 08:26 PM |
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Edited by liophy at 20:27, 03 Apr 2010.
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Maybe you should re-read his comment again then.
He clearly stated why he stopped playing for WCL:
It was NOT because of the cheater, it was because WCL did nothing about him.
So not playing this guy again won't change the fact (for him) WCL didn' react in a proper way....
Or maybe you should reread what i said?
If he plays only friends, he will not need WCL to do anything for him. He will just have history of the games with his friends.
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted April 03, 2010 08:50 PM |
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all, please stop offtopic. if you wanna discuss any issues - please seelct proper thread
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SAG
Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
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posted April 04, 2010 03:50 PM |
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jesus,
as far as both players made mistakes in rules, please play new game till 2 wins and WCL will start with 1:0 bonus.
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i_love_jesus
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 06, 2010 05:56 AM |
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jesus,
as far as both players made mistakes in rules, please play new game till 2 wins and WCL will start with 1:0 bonus.
OK i see.
I will try have another game in this weekend.
Anyway the template is too sucks.
Cannot select Dungeon, Inferno, Necro cause of
it can be locate in underground.
Undergound is too poor and too narrow on 2sm4d(3).
I don't know at all why they select this template.
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