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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Predictions and Arguments For 4th Faction
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Foonlegacy
Foonlegacy


Hired Hero
posted December 15, 2010 09:29 PM

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Hope it wont be full of shape-changing orcs like in H5.


I must have missed it, but where were the shape-changing orcs in H5?
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Hakkology
Hakkology


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posted December 15, 2010 09:30 PM

Sorry about the confusion, i meant multiple orc creatures in different tiers, lots of orcs. There are no shapeshifters .

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Tomash
Tomash


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posted December 15, 2010 09:32 PM

That means the whole game will be around eastern part of Ashan (Griphon Duchy, Heresh, Ranaar) so maybe next will be Free Cities?
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Meskyn
Meskyn


Adventuring Hero
posted December 15, 2010 09:40 PM

Predictions for elite and champion?:
centaur
shaman
wyvern
ogre
Thunderbird
Cyclops
BOSS: Behemoth?
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bludgeon
bludgeon


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posted December 15, 2010 09:46 PM

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Unless the Cyclops shrinks like 20 feet from HV to HVI for some reason, there's no way realistically that any other unit could be a champion simply due to the huge size of the Cyclops.

Just use your imagination. I just did and there is be a very simple solution to the height difference between H5 cyclops and H6 one.
HINT: they do this all the time in WoW.

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Danny
Danny


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posted December 15, 2010 10:03 PM
Edited by Danny at 22:09, 15 Dec 2010.

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Sorry about the confusion, i meant multiple orc creatures in different tiers, lots of orcs. There are no shapeshifters .


Supposedly either the Shaman, either the Slayer/Executioner/Chieftain is making a comeback. Plus the description uses the term "armies of orcs" instead of just "beast-men" and the Harpies are their "allies" so I'm pretty sure there will be multiple orc creatures once again, to continue with the "racial creatures".

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Aosaw
Aosaw


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posted December 15, 2010 10:49 PM

This sets up the expansions fairly well, actually.  If Orcs are the fourth faction and then (presumably) naga are the fifth faction, then that leaves the sylvan, dungeon, and academy factions to be accounted for.

The sylvan and dungeon factions would make an excellent two-faction expansion, with the correlation between elves and faceless/dark elves; and then the Academy is a wonderful counterbalance to the Necromancer without forcing a (rather cliche) rivalry between a Necromancer sibling and a Wizard sibling.  All in all, I think they made the right decision here.

Also, have you looked at the concept art?  That harpy looks amazing.

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Dexter
Dexter


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posted December 15, 2010 11:30 PM

Just to say it out loud: TOLD YOU SO!

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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posted December 15, 2010 11:40 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 23:40, 15 Dec 2010.

aaahhhhhh music to my ears....

Anyway yeah I agree I really hope they don't get any troll units with warcraft-style, but otherwise I really like their style.
To be honoest I hope their won't be any voodoo crap at all for these guys, either for trolls, orcs or goblins. If their should be Voodoo in H6 it should belong to lizardmen or something.
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vitorsly
vitorsly


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posted December 15, 2010 11:45 PM

Yay! Orcs! I cant Imagine a Heroes game withaut goblins (note that I didn't new about H5 before the ToE geting anounced)
Ps: Cyclop! I hate him if he substitudes the Behemoth as a champion! I'm guessing the he will because of the beemoth being a boss
If they dont make the bosses playable I'm going to MOD this Game

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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posted December 15, 2010 11:52 PM

Well they hopefully have the Wyvern at least.
But I don't think they'll have a hard time filling the faction with non-orc units. Considering the once you mentioned in the discussion threead.

I hope that the Behemoth is a Boss and the Cyclop is the champion because its to big and awesome to be just an elite.
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Jabanoss
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posted December 16, 2010 12:03 AM

I actually doubt they will add a troll unit, there wasn't any in H5 and I haven't heard of in trolls in Ashan. And according to Elvin the Orcs are NOT a jungle faction, so if there are witch-doctors they are presumably not based on voodoo but rather north "native-american-style".
But I hope they don't get a caster at all it doesn't fit them, not all faction needs casters...
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Aosaw
Aosaw


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posted December 16, 2010 12:10 AM

Between goblins, harpies, ogres, trolls, and cyclopes...I don't see any space left for a second orc unit, much less more than that.  Even if the champion is an orc (highly unlikely), there still would be only two.  So, yeah, I wouldn't be worried about that.

As for champion, my vote goes to the Hydra as well.

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xerox
xerox


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posted December 16, 2010 12:39 AM

I don't get why you hate Blizzard.

But I would not like if they copied Blizzard either since the Vampire already looks like Arthas 2.0
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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posted December 16, 2010 01:13 AM

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I don't get why you hate Blizzard.

But I would not like if they copied Blizzard either since the Vampire already looks like Arthas 2.0
...who looks like Elric of Melniboné?

On topic, I agree with Nightterror. I can't see myself playing any of these... maybe Necropolis. Certainly not the uninspired Inferno. Perhaps I'll wait for the expansion packs for the first time. Oh well.

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Meskyn
Meskyn


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posted December 16, 2010 01:14 AM

just a thought, in the fortress manticores!
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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted December 16, 2010 01:23 AM
Edited by DarkLord at 01:24, 16 Dec 2010.

what's wrong with Witch Doctor btw?????
you prefer to see another Orc with sword/axe/knife/fork/hand-fan???
I think Witch Doctor is awesome (in case you don't like Warcraft universe, look at Diablo3 for example)!!!

p.s. I guess they confirmed that we are not going to see Trolls anymore, if i am not mistaken..

p.s.2. Also it says that one of the epic creatures of Stronghold, will become a female??? who da hell it can be???
"centauress", "cyclopess", "orge-mama"??? u kidding me???

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blighboy
blighboy


Hired Hero
posted December 16, 2010 02:03 AM

Could be some kind of ugly hag thing. But that doesn't really scream priestess....but neither does orc, to be honest.

It's always possible the priestess could be a fifth faction unit. Or a hero class.
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xerox
xerox


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posted December 16, 2010 03:15 AM

what, so blizzard werent allowed to make their own creative interpretation of trolls?
Personally, I think their trolls are really unique and cool and they have a very long and developed history in the warcraft universe (in the warcraft universe, elves evolved from trolls aswell lol).
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Jabanoss
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posted December 16, 2010 03:33 AM
Edited by Jabanoss at 03:40, 16 Dec 2010.

The warcraft troll are only really good in Warcraft II, when they looked like this:

the ones in WC3 the jungle, ice and forest trolls are all really bad, they shouldn't look that happy nor skinny. They should be More Badass!
And in WoW they are even worse.


However how someone(Nighterror) can't like Warcraft 3 is completely beyond me. It's the best game ever made since age of empires 1.
Yeah in warcraft they do a lot of interpretation of classic creatures some of them are good, but most of them are not. But it is much better that they make their own minotaur and call it Tauren instead of just calling it minotaur which it is not.

To be honest I'm more pissed at Tolken for turning "all" trolls into huge monster.
Man I love 'em so much more in Scandinavian folklore
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