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Seraphim
Seraphim


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posted August 17, 2012 12:20 AM
Edited by Seraphim at 00:32, 17 Aug 2012.

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In the future, I'd advise against calling anyone's faith "pathetic" and keep it to yourself.  


Yet, saying Polytheism is pathetic is no problem.

I feel offended!
I blame conservatives for that. Anti abortion, anti gay rights, church based schools,church based hospitals etc etc. All that because conservatives feel offended...
Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal and they did it because of emotions aswell.

I am offended that conservatives are offended...
Anyway I changed that line,hope none's imaginary friend in the sky got insulted.


I wonder how long will it take america to have an atheist as a president...
My answer, they wont ever get one.

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xerox
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posted August 17, 2012 01:19 AM

Is Obama even thaaaaaaaat religious? but I guess it's pretty much require for you to say allahu akhbar in english if you want to become president?
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del_diablo
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posted August 17, 2012 01:57 PM

Obama is just a middleclass agnostic of the kind that has been around since the 1850s.
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Elodin
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posted August 23, 2012 03:14 PM

Romney is unveiling his energy policy, which is quite different from Obama's stick-it-to-America policy. Romney thinks the each state should be in control of resources within the state and will stop the federal government from blocking such things as drilling and coal mining in states with those resources. Each state can determine their own regulations. Imagine that.

Clicky

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In what his campaign is billing as a major policy speech, Mitt Romney will unveil an energy plan Thursday that would give states the power to determine whether drilling and mining should occur on federal lands within their borders as part of a larger effort to increase domestic oil, coal and natural gas production and achieve energy independence.

Under current law, the federal government controls oil, coal and gas permits for federal lands. But in a speech at an oilfield services company in Hobbs. N.M., Romney will argue that determination should be up to state officials, insisting individual states are in a better position to "develop, adopt and enforce regulations" on local basis than the federal government--which his campaign says has been unduly influenced by Washington politics.

A policy paper released ahead of the candidate's speech by the Romney campaign argues President Barack Obama "has intentionally sought to shut down oil, gas and coal production in pursuit of his own alternative energy agenda."

In his speech, Romney will contend that loosening regulations on the energy industry will benefit taxpayers by lowering gas costs and reducing the cost of consumer goods, which have increased as companies pay higher energy prices. He'll argue that allowing more federal drilling will not only bring money back into the nation's budget but would result in lower energy prices that could create jobs, lower the trade deficit and increase the nation's security.

"Allowing for greater domestic energy production will be of immense benefit when it comes to jobs and affordable energy for working Americans and middle class families," Ed Gillespie, a senior adviser to the Romney campaign, said in a conference call Wednesday previewing the candidate's speech.

The push is part of what Romney will tout as effort to achieve energy independence by 2020, a plan that also includes expanding offshore energy development along the coast of Virginia and North and South Carolina as well as approval of the Keystone energy pipeline linking Canada to the United States.


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Darkshadow
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posted August 23, 2012 03:22 PM

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The push is part of what Romney will tout as effort to achieve energy independence by 2020


Well well well, why not just start crapping out Dyson Spheres while you're at it?

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friendofgunnar
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posted August 24, 2012 08:15 AM

I had to lol when I saw this:



It got me to thinking though, is there anybody here who can explain how Ayn Rand's philosophy is compatible with Christianity?

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The_Gootch
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posted August 26, 2012 04:35 PM

Another swift-boat job?  

Really Elodin?  Is that all the right has the imagination for these days?

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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

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posted August 26, 2012 04:43 PM

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It got me to thinking though, is there anybody here who can explain how Ayn Rand's philosophy is compatible with Christianity?

Here is a lecture by John Robbins, where he argues that Ayn Rands philosophy can only be defended based on a Christian world view. Aside from her atheism of course. Link.

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Seraphim
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posted August 28, 2012 05:05 PM

The republican GOP is in lot of problems.
According to christian forecasters, it may or may not be the wrath of god.

More on this

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Elodin
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posted September 05, 2012 02:06 PM

The Democrat Party platform advocates "free" abortions for any reason for poor women. Pro-life dems have been kicked under the bus.

I say if a woman wants to murder her baby she should be one paying the hitman, not me.

Clicky

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Here is the official language, posted on the Democratic Party website:

"The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right. Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor, and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way. We also recognize that health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions. We strongly and unequivocally support a woman's decision to have a child by providing affordable health care and ensuring the availability of and access to programs that help women during pregnancy and after the birth of a child, including caring adoption programs."

The language was interpreted by conservative critics as an endorsement of taxpayer-funded abortion -- particularly the line about "regardless of ability to pay." And anti-abortion advocates noted that the platform did not mention any exceptions for partial-birth abortion (which is illegal in most cases) or sex-selective abortions -- or include language that was included in the past that stated abortion should be "rare."

Former Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, vice president of government relations at the Susan B. Anthony List, said the platform indicates pro-life Democrats have "been left behind" by their party.

"Bill Clinton Democrats talked about wanting to make abortion rare. ... Well those days are gone, they don't talk about that anymore," she said. "This party is full-bore on abortion for any reason at any time."




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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

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posted September 06, 2012 11:22 PM
Edited by Brukernavn at 23:24, 06 Sep 2012.

Is this really how the democratic* election process functions?
Short video

*Edit: As in form of government, and not the party.

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Elodin
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posted September 18, 2012 05:43 PM

Romney is catching flack form liberals for basically saying the election is about whether or not people have a right to live off of other people. But he is right on that point. His percentage may be a bit off but the crux of the message is true.

Clicky

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The video was widely circulated after it was obtained by Mother Jones, though it had been on the Internet for weeks. It showed Romney speaking at a May 17 fundraiser in Boca Raton, Fla.

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney could be heard saying. "There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."




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Minion
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posted September 19, 2012 12:29 AM

The message may be true to the base of Republicans, but to win the election Romney needs to be more discreet, at least so think many analysts. Obama seems to be taking a further lead in the polls, but that is so far just because of the boost from Democratic convention.

A question. Is there anything good that you think Obama has accomplished during his presidency? (not for you Elodin, but for people who can actually objectively share/analyze something in this thread)
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Corribus
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posted September 19, 2012 12:59 AM
Edited by Corribus at 01:00, 19 Sep 2012.

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A question. Is there anything good that you think Obama has accomplished during his presidency?

Nothing comes to mind.

Well, unless you count Osama, but that was just a continuation of Bush's policy.  
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blizzardboy
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posted September 19, 2012 01:15 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 01:18, 19 Sep 2012.

Pros: He repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell, he withdrew from Iraq and is scaling back in Afghanistan, he attempted to push against the Republicans to hack away at the defense budget as part of the austerity plans, and his policy towards illegal immigrants is better than the alternative. The later three are the only ones I care substantially about.  

Cons: he's trying to implement healthcare as a universal right, which unfortunately makes the US the last wealthy nation to successfully resist that urge, he's protecting one too many entitlement programs, and he put the US economy on drugs at the expense of the deficit.

While it seems fairly well-rounded (from the perspective of my views), the cons are really big deals and the pros aren't quite as important. It's not as though the Republicans wanted to stay in Iraq indefinitely, contrary to ignorant belief, so under Republican leadership it likely just would have meant a moderately slower withdraw. Romney's foreign policy views are really only a hair more hawk than Obama's.
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Elodin
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posted September 19, 2012 01:39 AM

I can't think of anything Obama has done that is good. Repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" was a victory for gay activists, sure, but it was a defeat for heterosexuals who don't want to be forced to get undressed in front of, shower with, go the latrine with gays.  It is the equivalent of requiring female soldiers to undress in front of and shower with male soldiers. Straight people have rights too.

Oh, here is one clip with Obama saying he believes in redistribution of wealth. I posted another one some time back, a clip from a radio he did while a member of his state's legislature, maybe I'll take time to find it later tonight. I don't think it is "fair" to take one person's money by force and give it to anothe person. I believe in charity (freely sharing what you will), not welfare (robbery using the government as a weapon.)

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Edit: Here is the radio interview.

Clicky

Obama is a Marxist. If he is elected as a lame duck to a second term he will show more fully who he is, to America's destruction.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted September 19, 2012 02:09 AM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 02:15, 19 Sep 2012.

A 5 trillion dollar increase in national debt.
Troops still in Afghanistan.
Gitmo is still open.
43 months of unemployment over 8% with millions of people abandoning the workforce.  
A massive tax increase with the health mandate.
Easing welfare rules.
Joe Biden.  Honestly, I believe he is the ONLY reason nobody has tried to assassinate the president.  

Who wouldn't want four more years?
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Corribus
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posted September 19, 2012 03:54 AM
Edited by Corribus at 04:40, 19 Sep 2012.

I think it's been pretty much an unmitigated disaster.  On top of all that, he did almost nothing he promised he'd do.  I can't believe people still have faith in this guy.
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blizzardboy
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posted September 19, 2012 04:04 AM

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Joe Biden.  Honestly, I believe he is the ONLY reason nobody has tried to assassinate the president.  



I lol'd President Biden. Oh lawd.

I would be lying if I said I didn't genuinely enjoy listening to Joe Biden talk. The way he makes people go "Wait, wtf did he just say?" is inspirational.

Obama and Biden, especially Biden, are very likeable and charismatic individuals. It's a shame that I have to vote against them.
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Minion
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posted September 19, 2012 04:12 AM
Edited by Minion at 04:12, 19 Sep 2012.

I share the disappointment, though I assume you didn't vote for Obama in 2008 either.

@Omega. What will change under Romney from your list, forgetting the health care which is obvious (but which Romney supported while governor, lol)
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