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Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224] [ This thread is 419 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 (117) 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 ]
vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted May 16, 2011 09:24 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 21:25, 16 May 2011.

Ship control!
It is better explained by images:
= blank space       =enemy units




when you use the ability it becomes:




OR




OR




OR





At basic you can use it 1 time. At advanced 2 times and at expert 3 times for every battle!

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 16, 2011 09:32 PM

I do not understand AT ALL what that means O.o the enemy units are moved? O.o

However, from now, we first do 3-4 basic sub-skills for every main skill. After that we'll go to the sub-skills with prerequesites.

Now, for which main skill shall we do the basic sub-skills next?

Wood Magic
Metal Magic
Fire Magic
Water Magic
Earth Magic
Dark Magic
Light Magic
Skill reducing the mana cost of casting spells for Heroes

Offense (gives troops an attack/damage bonus)
Defense  (increased effect of "defense" command)
Rush (Increases the speed/movement of your units)
Leadership (Increases Morale of Troops)
Art of War (Increases the Luck of your troops/their chance for critical hits)
Battle Lore (Your troops get stat boni against certain unit types (because the hero knows well about them)
Logistics (Increases the (land) army movement per day)
Scout/Scouting (Increases the Sight Range of the Hero)
One collective "War Machines" Skill
Enlightenment/Learning (Decreases the number of EXP a hero needs for a Level-up)
Diplomacy (Lets some enemy creatures join you before battle.)
Anti-Magic/Resistance (Gives the hero's troops a magical Resistance against negative spells)
Battle/Fighting (Increases the damage a hero does in battle and allows him to get might-based combat abilities)
Nobility (INcreases the weekly growth of creatures in a town the hero has been assigned, too (Nirmally, only 1 per hero)
Estates (The hero gains a certain amount of Gold per Turn)
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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted May 16, 2011 09:39 PM

Leadership
and when you use an ability it moves every enemy creature in one direction of your choose.

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 16, 2011 10:10 PM

and it costs one hero turn, normally?!
...it seems a bit more like an advanced sub-skill (=one having other sub-skills as prerequesites)

Cascade.

1. Which of these shall be a basic Leadership Sub-SKill?

Valor (Inspired by your hero's valor, your troops can never have negative moral.)
OR
Encourage/Chain of Command/better name (Increases the Initiative of your units a bit)
OR
Discipline (Lowers the Chances for Negative morale to occur)
OR
Comradship (The hero is both a leader and a comrade to their troops, so they start with a huge initiative bonus for the first turn)
OR
Hearten/Encourage (Using this ability in combat, the hero can allow a friendly unit that has allready acted this turn to act again.) [note: could, because it's strong, also be a sub-skill requiring another sub-skill first]
OR
Uniter/better name (Reduces the penalty/penalties which come through having units of different factions in the army)

2. Choose a second one from the List above.

3. Choose a third basic sub-skill for leadership freely.

4. Choose a fourth basic sub-skill for leadership freely, say it shall have only 3, or postpone it.

5. Choose the next main skill for which we do the basic sub-skills
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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted May 16, 2011 10:20 PM

1. Uniter (how about: "Alliances", "Peace Keeper" or "Treaty" ?)

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gnomes2169
gnomes2169


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
posted May 16, 2011 10:43 PM

2. Valor
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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted May 17, 2011 05:13 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 05:26, 17 May 2011.

Way too many weak abilities here. That's what happens when you take lousy abilities like Estates and Navigation out to give them their own skill.
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 17, 2011 07:56 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 13:37, 17 May 2011.

@mr. Dragon: good suggestions

1. Choose a third basic sub-skill for leadership freely.

2. Choose a fourth basic sub-skill for leadership freely, say it shall have only 3, or postpone it.

3. Choose the next main skill for which we do the basic sub-skills

EDIT: Nobody? O.o at least 3 of you wished for this^^
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Minnakht
Minnakht


Known Hero
Green eyed monster
posted May 17, 2011 01:56 PM
Edited by Minnakht at 13:57, 17 May 2011.

I didn't.

1. Pressure Resistance (When a friendly stack is attacked and has many casualties, that stack gains a short-time damage bonus and its turn comes quicker. Also better resistance to stun effects and displacement)

It's a sub-skill, so... the effects of that can scale.

Also, Jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiriki... I don't want to be pushy, but
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 17, 2011 02:06 PM

1. Choose a fourth basic sub-skill for leadership freely, say it shall have only 3, or postpone it.

2. Choose the next main skill for which we do the basic sub-skills

but what?^^
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Minnakht
Minnakht


Known Hero
Green eyed monster
posted May 17, 2011 04:29 PM

That's enough for Leadership, seeing as no one can even answer...

...I post that link in my signature everywhere, and no one ever checks it...
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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted May 17, 2011 04:49 PM

Good job, Minnakht!
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 17, 2011 04:54 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 22:03, 17 May 2011.

well...I thought I allready made it clear I'm rather occupied with rl these days^^ one may recognize I'm not too active in this thread, either.

for leadership...note we WILL return to it, but for advanced sub-sills then (=those which have others as prerequesites, maybe also skill-crossing prereqs)

I must be off in minutes, so I quicken this into a short cascade:

We take Offense as next main skill

1. Which of these shall be basic offense sub-skill?

Archery (increases ranged attack/Damage)
OR
Battle Frenzy (Further damage increase[fixed])
OR
Battle Frenzy (Strong damage increase on cost of defense loss)
OR
Preparation ("Defend" becomes "Prepare" command, increasing attack instead of defense)
OR
Offensive Tactics (Allows your hero to place their troops further [like in tactics], but only when he is the attackt) [Note: would automatically lead to the opposite skill for defense]
OR
Tactics (As we know it)

2. choose another one of the list

3. choose another one freely

4. Shall the Main Skill level determine how many skills of a skill onethe hero can have? [10 being the total cap]
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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted May 18, 2011 05:26 AM

1: Archery, obviously!
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
posted May 18, 2011 06:55 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 12:41, 18 May 2011.

1. choose another one of the list

2. choose another one freely

3. Shall the Main Skill level determine how many skills of a skill onethe hero can have? [10 being the total cap]

EDIT: despite having won the vote, with 3 people having voted for it, this seems to be a very slow-going topic^^ I find that a bit strange^^
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Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted May 18, 2011 01:04 PM

Battle Frenzy (Strong damage increase on cost of defense loss)

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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Altar Dweller
posted May 18, 2011 01:11 PM

1. choose another one freely

2. Shall the Main Skill level determine how many skills of a skill onethe hero can have? [10 being the total cap]
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No longer on vacation
posted May 18, 2011 01:18 PM

I kinda wish Melee was a skill, but I wouldn't know how to implement it.

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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Altar Dweller
posted May 18, 2011 01:21 PM

What should it do, basically? increase melee attack/damage?

for the next question:
Shall the Main Skill level determine how many skills of a skill onethe hero can have? [10 being the total cap]
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No longer on vacation
posted May 18, 2011 01:23 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 13:40, 18 May 2011.

^^ That's seems to be the most logical solution.

And yes.

EDIT: And Yes VVV

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