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Jabanoss
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posted February 19, 2011 03:49 PM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 15:59, 19 Feb 2011.
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So?
You mean that your main complain about the Sister is that she's so useful that she's going to get killed all the time? 
Then it's fitting that their attacks weaken or hinder the enemy's attack, no?
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Avirosb
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posted February 19, 2011 04:26 PM |
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Hey, you asked me if I hated mages and monks too, and I answered.
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Jabanoss
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posted February 19, 2011 04:31 PM |
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Orly? 
I don't think you answered the question very well in that case.
You just stated that they are another kind of caster...
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Avirosb
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posted February 19, 2011 04:47 PM |
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They are ranged units
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Jabanoss
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posted February 19, 2011 04:52 PM |
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Huh, where have you read that the Sister isn't ranged?
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alcibiades
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posted February 19, 2011 09:09 PM |
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Hmmm, technically, they could be ranged, given that the ranged ability is not specified in the Marksman's ability list. But I think it's highly unlikely that they've put two ranged units in the core group, and also it specifically says that Haven's weakness is lack of ranged power.
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Charrclaw
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posted February 19, 2011 09:26 PM |
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It would be nice if we have male and female form for some units so some people could be pleased.
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kodial79
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posted February 19, 2011 09:59 PM |
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Here's what I think about the female units of H6:
Sister: I don't get what's anyone's problem with her. That she has no armor and weapons? Did H3 Monk have any armor or weapons? I like her design and abilities. I think she's one of the better designs of her factions and surely she has the most fitting abilities than any other priest ever appeared in HoMM.
Needed to be female? Certainly not but it's not bad for a change.
Glory: Basing on the artwork, I don't like her so much. The idea of having a Glory is great and very fitting to a theocratic faction such as the Haven. But the design makes her seem like she's jumped out from Marvel Universe. I won't criticize her though for it. I'll just say she takes some getting used to.
Needed to be female? For me, yes. Only for the fact that Glory has a female'ish tone to it.
Seraph: Well, basically, I don't see it as a female. To me, Angels are androgynous. Besides its breastplate, there's nothing else hinting at a female gender. And uh, its swords have a quite normal size this time around. And come on, you think a supernatural and quite powerful being such as an angel would have trouble wielding oversized swords? And they're not oversized but I'm just saying!
Needed to be female? No! Like I said, Angels should not have genders and this is how I view this unit too.
Succubus: I liked the H5 one better, truth be told. Doesn't matter if the Succubus looks human or bestial. When she seduces people, it's not her looks that do it but her magical powers. She could be ugly as a Hag, but still have them thinking that she looks like an Angel. That said, I liked how the H5 Succubus was demonic and ugly, showing her true nature...
Needed to be female? Well, uh... They could go with Incubi for a change... Naaaah!
Breeder: So that's a female? Kay. Can't say I don't like it. She certainly is a very fitting addition to her faction but well, I'm not impressed either.
Needed to be female? Well, since it's a Breeder...
Centaur: To me, that's my favorite design of the game. In her artwork, she inspires me with the raw power that I always wanted the Centaurs to have. To be honest, if it was up to me, Centaur would not be a female. But they've gone and done it anyway, and I declare it awesome!
Needed to be female? Hell, no! But I'm glad it is! 
Harpy: Well, it's not her exotic looks that kinda spoil this design but her prettiness. I want Harpies to be ugly. That said, I don't mind so much about it and I would still rate her appearance as, say, 4 out of 5? Yeah, that should do it...
Needed to be female? I'd be pretty pissed off if someone would come up with a male harpy!
Ghost: This design, I have a problem with. It's not haunting enough, not spooky. Doesn't invoke that primal, unadulterated fear that the ghost should make us feel. She looks good but that's the problem right here, she shouldn't.
Needed to be female? Well, yes, I suppose. Best ghost stories are about female ghosts...
Lamassu: Now this design is epic, her abilities too! But when we're talking about the Lamassu, I'm as pissed off as if someone had just introduced a male harpy to the game. This is just wrong, no matter how good her design is, I just wish she was not a Lamassu! I guess I will have to get used to it.
Needed to be female? No! Lamassu are always males! And they're not undead! They're freaking divine creatures!
Fate Spinner: Now this one looks marvelous. The best design in her faction for me, and one of the better ones in the entire series. She fits in perfectly with the lore and everything both in looks and role.
Needed to be female? Ofcourse, it's Ubi's own creature and if Ubi says they must be females, then they must be females.
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vicheron
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posted February 19, 2011 10:29 PM |
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U-huh. For the record, the elementals in H3 did have gender.
The basic units were all female and the upgraded ones were male.
Talk about sexism, eh, guys?
They looked like they had gender but that's not the same thing as actually having genders. The water elemental had breasts but unless those breasts produced milk to feed baby water elementals then they exist only for aesthetic value. It's like Michelangelo's David, it looks like a man but it's actually just a hunk of rock and its sex organs don't actually do anything.
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Avirosb
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posted February 20, 2011 07:06 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 07:06, 20 Feb 2011.
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They looked like they had gender but that's not the same thing as actually having genders. The water elemental had breasts but unless those breasts produced milk to feed baby water elementals then they exist only for aesthetic value. It's like Michelangelo's David, it looks like a man but it's actually just a hunk of rock and its sex organs don't actually do anything.
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alcibiades
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posted February 20, 2011 08:29 AM |
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Oh nice good point. But actually, even though you're obviously right that all the upgraded ones were the males, I think the idea was that each elemental (basic/upgraded) had both a female and a male form. If you look at the Ice Elemental creature model, it's clearly feminine (breast part), whereas both the basic Fire Elemental and Earth Elemental seem male.
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MrDragon
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posted February 20, 2011 10:17 AM |
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Fate Spinner: Now this one looks marvelous. The best design in her faction for me, and one of the better ones in the entire series. She fits in perfectly with the lore and everything both in looks and role.
Needed to be female? Ofcourse, it's Ubi's own creature and if Ubi says they must be females, then they must be females.
Actually this creature is not a Ubi original at all.
It appears to be based of the: Jorōgumo from japanese myth.
Alternativel the spider/human motif can be traced back to Arachne from greek myth, who even has an illustration in Dante's Inferno (the book not the god-of-war-ripoff) where she is depicted as half spider.
In the chinese tale, Journey to the West, spiders came in the shape of female monsters and tried to eat Xuanzang.
Haters will say they stole the idea from DnD's Driders (elf/spiders), the idea is much older then that though.
I can keep going if you like. 
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Avirosb
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posted February 20, 2011 10:30 AM |
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Arachnoids in general go back as far as 2300 BC, if not more.
None of the legendary creatures are original anyway, since everything is based on pre-existing animals.
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kodial79
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posted February 20, 2011 11:20 AM |
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I'm not saying that the half woman, half spider design is anything original. I'm praising it as a creature born directly of the game world's lore.
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vicheron
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posted February 20, 2011 11:59 AM |
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Edited by vicheron at 12:00, 20 Feb 2011.
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They looked like they had gender but that's not the same thing as actually having genders. The water elemental had breasts but unless those breasts produced milk to feed baby water elementals then they exist only for aesthetic value. It's like Michelangelo's David, it looks like a man but it's actually just a hunk of rock and its sex organs don't actually do anything.
How does that prove the elementals sexually reproduce? Like I said before, people arbitrarily give genders to things that have no genders like countries, ships, statues, etc. Russians call their country Mother Russia and the Germans call their country fatherland, or at least they used to, but does that mean Russia and Germany can have sex and make a baby country?
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Avirosb
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posted February 20, 2011 12:43 PM |
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How does that prove the elementals sexually reproduce?
You'll have to write a letter to the writers of Armageddon's Blade to get a proper answer to that, because neither I nor you know anything about elemental reproduction, really.
I doubt anyone has given this much thought. It's just a video game.
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MrDragon
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posted February 20, 2011 12:48 PM |
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I'm not saying that the half woman, half spider design is anything original. I'm praising it as a creature born directly of the game world's lore.
I'm not bashing it either, but I'm just saying that it's more an adaptation on exist myth, like most creatures in HoMM as a series.
A clever adaptation as they linked the spider-woman myths with the spider-death myths, which blends together to create a neat whole.
I really like the creature, partially because of these mythological links, I like how they are digging into more obscure myth and legend, it's a breath of fresh air.
Particularly now including oriental elements in an otherwise very western setting, giving it more depth.
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Zenofex
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posted February 20, 2011 02:27 PM |
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Sex exists for the purposes of reproduction. Creatures that do not reproduce sexually can neither be considered male nor female.
Yeah, it's pure coincidence that the sexless Glory looks like something that every heterosexual male human will gladly reproduce with, if it just was slightly more material. They didn't want to make them look like chicks, really!
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vicheron
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posted February 20, 2011 11:07 PM |
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Edited by vicheron at 19:38, 21 Feb 2011.
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How does that prove the elementals sexually reproduce?
You'll have to write a letter to the writers of Armageddon's Blade to get a proper answer to that, because neither I nor you know anything about elemental reproduction, really.
I doubt anyone has given this much thought. It's just a video game.
So why are you making a big deal about it?
As far as we know, elementals don't conform to the rules of living creatures. They only look the way they do for aesthetic value. Would you rather have the earth elemental look like this:
and water elemental look like this:
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Sex exists for the purposes of reproduction. Creatures that do not reproduce sexually can neither be considered male nor female.
Yeah, it's pure coincidence that the sexless Glory looks like something that every heterosexual male human will gladly reproduce with, if it just was slightly more material. They didn't want to make them look like chicks, really!
You're really grasping at straws here. Just because something doesn't have a gender doesn't mean that it can't look like it has a gender. The Venus de Milo looks like a woman and Michelangelo's David looks like a man but are you really fooled into wanting to have sex with those statues? If you are then you need some serious psychiatric help.
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Zenofex
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posted February 21, 2011 07:52 AM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 09:32, 21 Feb 2011.
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You're really grasping at straws here.
Am I? It's not me who thinks that the statues in question and the Glory are made like that to show how good-looking the stone (or the light) could be. You're already so deep in your nonsenses that you even believe in them.
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