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hippox89
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posted November 05, 2013 02:53 PM |
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Which level 7 creature is the Forge equivalent based on? I cannot see, maybe because it isn't unlike the other Forge creatures?
I really like the griffin and Minotaur in particular.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted November 05, 2013 03:54 PM |
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I must say that Dreadnoughts looks really nice when animated. Also like the difference between basic version (ugly mutant) and upgraded version (ugly mutant with cybernetic implants and shiny armor).
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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted November 05, 2013 05:26 PM |
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Yeah, their level 7 is indeed a genius work.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 06, 2013 05:29 AM |
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Is this line-up is final, or you plan to change some creatures next?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted November 06, 2013 09:55 AM |
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Great work!
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted November 06, 2013 04:31 PM |
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Quote:
Which level 7 creature is the Forge equivalent based on? I cannot see, maybe because it isn't unlike the other Forge creatures?
Level 1, level 7 and - to some degree - level 2 aren't based on other towns' units.
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Is this line-up is final, or you plan to change some creatures next?
There CAN be some changes. We're thinking about changing "cybergriffin" to something more original, but we're not sure about it yet.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 07:18 AM |
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Hobbit said:
There CAN be some changes. We're thinking about changing "cybergriffin" to something more original, but we're not sure about it yet.
Alex-ander goblins now look smaller than 1th level or any other level.
Maybe redraw them or put them on level 1 (Militia on 2nd)?
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 03:24 PM |
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Dwarves are smaller than centaurs yet they are on the 2nd level (same with e.g. orcs and wolf riders or serpent flies and gnolls), so the size of the unit isn't really that important. But I thought you were talking about units themselves, not how they look like, so yeah - goblins probably will be remade since they don't really fit the rest of Forge units.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 05:49 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 17:51, 09 Nov 2013.
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Hobbit said:
Dwarves are smaller than centaurs yet they are on the 2nd level (same with e.g. orcs and wolf riders or serpent flies and gnolls), so the size of the unit isn't really that important. But I thought you were talking about units themselves, not how they look like, so yeah - goblins probably will be remade since they don't really fit the rest of Forge units.
I throught about exchanging centaurs and dwarves by levels. VCMI allows it, so someday I will place centaurs to 2th level.
Serpent flies is not same case - it's insect and not antropomorph, so they can be smaller.
Orcs are one of most bad drawn units in HMM3. I like more orcs from HMM4 - they are really big compared to goblin riders.
PS I think 2th level must look similar to militia and wear heraldic sign of Forge like militia too.
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 08:49 PM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 20:51, 09 Nov 2013.
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Macron1 said:
I throught about exchanging centaurs and dwarves by levels. VCMI allows it, so someday I will place centaurs to 2th level. [...] Orcs are one of most bad drawn units in HMM3. I like more orcs from HMM4 - they are really big compared to goblin riders.
Okay, but your argument is still invalid. We're not doing something just because you think it should be like that, we're doing something because it fits the game. If you don't like the game, it's your problem.
Macron1 said:
I think 2th level must look similar to militia and wear heraldic sign of Forge like militia too.
They probably won't. Although maybe we'll give this heraldic sign to some other unit or maybe even some buildings.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 09:33 PM |
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Warmonger said:
I must say that Dreadnoughts looks really nice when animated. Also like the difference between basic version (ugly mutant) and upgraded version (ugly mutant with cybernetic implants and shiny armor).
Seems like 7th level was inspired by FreeDoom:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/fullview/56120/
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 09:37 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 21:38, 09 Nov 2013.
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Hobbit said:
We're not doing something just because you think it should be like that, we're doing something because it fits the game. If you don't like the game, it's your problem.
I'm not thinking you're doing something to please me. And I don't say @hey this unit is snow". I'm very glad to see any units in Heroes 3.
I just say that goblins are little smaller than other units, and 7th level is not cyborg or mechanic creature, but some mutant.
I'm not saying "scrap this, this is suxx", I just propose what's good for Forge. Because I don't draw units and I like them way they are, but you draw, so there is possibility that you create more perfect town that I can compile.
Honestly, I think your Forge can be much more good than HoTA's (with all their rotating droids and no-minotaurs). So I'm proposing things that will make it more good.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted November 09, 2013 09:50 PM |
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 10:05 PM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 22:07, 09 Nov 2013.
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Macron1 said:
I'm not thinking you're doing something to please me.
You seem not to understand my point. You're saying that you don't like when some units are bigger than something from the higher level, which in HoMM3 happens pretty often. And we're doing something so that it'll fit HoMM3 standards. If you're saying that these standards aren't ok for you, then it's not our fault, really.
Anyhow, goblins will probably be as big as "Militia" or pyros, but we can't say for sure since there are no models yet. But it's possible that we'll change cybergriffins to something different and a little bit smaller (only 1 hex big), yet more fitting...
Juggernauts won't be changed, we don't want any droids. They won't fit the game, really. At least none of other projects did.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 10:08 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 22:32, 09 Nov 2013.
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Hobbit said:
Juggernauts won't be changed, we don't want any droids. They won't fit.
By the way, some tank from FreeDoom which can inspire 7th level:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/fullview/56126/
Hobbit said:
You're saying that you don't like when some units are bigger than something from the higher lev
I didn't say I don't like it. I'm only saying their size is different.
PS Another idea. There are no much female units in HMM3. How about making female unit in replace of goblins or griffins?
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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted November 09, 2013 11:18 PM |
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Topless Naga anyone? 
Seriously though, female unit would be nice. But please, don't change level 7!
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted November 10, 2013 02:39 AM |
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Edited by Hobbit at 02:41, 10 Nov 2013.
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7th level won't be changed - or at least we don't plan it. On 4th level I'm thinking of something not humanoid at all. So only way for some female unit in Forge would be a female goblin... We'll think about that. It's not a bad idea, but not really that great either.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted November 10, 2013 06:45 AM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 06:58, 10 Nov 2013.
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Hobbit said:
7th level won't be changed - or at least we don't plan it. On 4th level I'm thinking of something not humanoid at all. So only way for some female unit in Forge would be a female goblin... We'll think about that. It's not a bad idea, but not really that great either.
Deia Goblin Woman with sniper rifle (no distance penalty). It would be cool. And in our world women offen serve as snipers.
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liso1
Known Hero
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posted November 21, 2013 04:38 PM |
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Warmonger said:
I must say that Dreadnoughts looks really nice when animated. Also like the difference between basic version (ugly mutant) and upgraded version (ugly mutant with cybernetic implants and shiny armor).
Dreadnoughts are great
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 23, 2013 01:59 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 11:53, 23 Nov 2013.
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Hobbit said:
New version of VCMI Forge. Comment, point out any bugs, have fun.
Hi i'm sorry i can't figure out how to install this =(((
EDIT : OK I had to enable it under the launcher... XD
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