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xerox
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posted May 10, 2013 09:57 PM
Edited by xerox at 21:58, 10 May 2013.

Quote:
But you can also use public funding to make opera tickets cheaper hence available to more people.


Which means you mostly subsidize it for people who already have enough money to buy tickets themselves.
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mvassilev
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posted May 10, 2013 10:01 PM

People who can't afford to go to the opera generally don't want to. Never have I heard it said, "I'd like to go to the opera, but it's too expensive."
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artu
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posted May 10, 2013 10:07 PM

Opera is not a very good example, I agree. Theater however is not like that, there's a kind of play for every taste.

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posted May 11, 2013 03:34 AM

I'd go to the opera a lot more often if it was cheaper.
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artu
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posted May 11, 2013 09:37 AM

Admit the truth Corribus, you started this thread and then used me to resurrect it because you want every one to see your triplet art piece, don't you.

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Corribus
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posted May 11, 2013 01:41 PM

Guilty as charged.
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kookastar
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posted May 11, 2013 01:45 PM

sooo

Is this art or spam?



for full explanation see here

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=19419&pagenumber=2
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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 02:31 PM

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Is this art or spam?

Both?

For me everything can be called art, but hey - it's only my opinion and you don't have to care.
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kookastar
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posted May 11, 2013 02:37 PM

everything?

what about this?

And I do care
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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 02:45 PM

Yes, it also can be named art. It's a personal opinion whether something is art or not. For you cooking your own flesh isn't an art, for me Claude Joseph Vernet isn't an artist - and we're both right and both wrong at the same time.
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kookastar
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posted May 11, 2013 03:00 PM

Does good art still have meaning if no one will pay for it?

Humans like to think that art defines us but animals can create art too- nature is the most powerful art of all (photography highlights this).

If everything is art, does art lose it's significance?
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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 03:41 PM

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Does good art still have meaning if no one will pay for it?

Most of those greatest (IMO) artists earn almost nothing from their art.
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fauch
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posted May 11, 2013 07:08 PM

is Bill gates an artist?

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Salamandre
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posted May 11, 2013 07:14 PM

If you are asking what are the chances Bill Gates will be mentioned in future Art encyclopedias, I think is zero. Other than that, everyone can speculate on.
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artu
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posted May 11, 2013 08:55 PM
Edited by artu at 20:58, 11 May 2013.

There is always esthetical concern in art. You may not want to seek "beauty" in the traditional sense, you may not deliberately theorize it but there is still an esthetical concern. If that concern is not a priority, as in a video game cover, jean commercial, furniture design etc etc, we can call the result artsy, but not art. So no, Bill Gates is not an artist.

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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 09:41 PM

But what really does "esthetical" mean, ARTu?
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Salamandre
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posted May 11, 2013 09:41 PM

Aesthetic is also subject to interpretations. For example, I find that Fnord erm codes are beautiful (organized, explained), so as compliment I would call him an artist. It is meant as compliment, not as statement. Same thing for soccer players, we often call them artists, but only as compliment.
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artu
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posted May 11, 2013 09:59 PM

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But what really does "esthetical" mean, ARTu?


There are 4 basic "fields" in philosophy:

1- Ontology: What exists? What are things.
2- Epistemology: What is knowledge, what can we know?
3- Ethics: What is right and wrong?
4- Esthetics: What is beautiful and why?

And esthetical concern is about an art piece's "beauty" in itself, without references to other benefits. The artist can do it for the money but he'll still has that esthetical concern. I must also emphasize that beauty is a very deceptive word here if you take it in the traditional sense.

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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 10:02 PM

Well, your nick is very aesthetical for me.
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Salamandre
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posted May 11, 2013 10:04 PM

But yours is precious to me.
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