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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: Pre-Rendered Textures
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VokialBG
VokialBG


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Legendary Hero
First in line
posted January 26, 2016 05:05 PM

Galaad said:
It really is a shame Xuxo left this place, the best graphical artist for H5 IMO.


I agree... he got offended for some reason
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thGryphn
thGryphn


Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2020 03:31 AM

xuxo is back!!!

Welcome indeed brother, you made great contributions and I'm looking forward to see more

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dredknight
dredknight


Responsible
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
posted April 20, 2020 08:30 AM

Xuxo, welcome back!

This is coming so out of the blue in times like this. It makes me really joyful!

Regarding collaboration speak with Zahar. Recently he said that he wants to begin expanding PRIT 0.3 project with new content.

Besides that feel free to join our discord!
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xuxo
xuxo


Promising
Known Hero
posted April 20, 2020 04:31 PM

Thank you! between yesterday to the discord, and thought to contact Zahar if or if, impressive import of models ..... I return with much desire.

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 21, 2020 09:54 AM
Edited by Galaad at 11:31, 21 Apr 2020.

Welcome back Xuxo!

+QPs reverted back and topic made sticky
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Velote
Velote

Tavern Dweller
posted June 14, 2020 12:53 AM
Edited by Velote at 00:55, 14 Jun 2020.

Hey xuxo, have you heard of Topaz Gigapixel AI and the fantastic results it produces in upscaling textures using an AI powered by a neural network? You can run it against any image, be it a texture used in a 3D game, the individual frames of a video, or simply a sprite.

Before and After #1: https://forums.dfworkshop.net/download/file.php?id=3107

Before and After #2: https://forums.dfworkshop.net/download/file.php?id=3110

This, but applied to Fintal Fantasy VII: https://youtu.be/OaEgc46FNWE

It has a (((FREE TRIAL))), you know whatcham talkin bout *winks in a roguish sort of way*

There's a whole subreddit dedicated to upscaling older games using this technology: https://www.reddit.com/r/GameUpscale/ 

Besides Topaz Gigapixel, other methods exist, but they are less efficient, have a much harder learning curve, and require monster hardware.

Bottom line, you could easily bump up the vanilla HoMM5 creature textures to 4x of their original size with a shocking increase in quality (i.e. 2x the height & width of each texture, which is 4x surface-wise).

P.S. Also kindly consider changing the game font to a more readable one. My favorite is this one, it's SUPER readable and at the same time has a SUPER neutral look that doesn't break the fantasy immersion: https://www27.zippyshare.com/v/AKn7Hpy9/file.html
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xuxo
xuxo


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posted June 14, 2020 02:28 AM bonus applied by Galaad on 22 Jun 2020.
Edited by Galaad at 15:18, 22 Jun 2020.

Mod note: +QP applied for release of 0.3.2

Well, I use photozoom pro, which is full of quality for the textures recollection that the game uses. I am not interested in increasing the resolution, I am interested in modifying the texture itself, and mostly replacing the entire model if I see it necessary. there are textures that I have modified but I have not increased the resolution, the heroes V engine needs small textures, I usually never exceed 1024x1024, except in the terrain. thanks also for the information!

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Velote
Velote

Tavern Dweller
posted June 14, 2020 02:50 AM
Edited by Velote at 02:56, 14 Jun 2020.

Photozoom doesn't rely on neural networking and adaptive AI... you won't understand until you try both. AI-based solutions kinda make up the missing detail instead of just processing the bare input with a fixed logic.

Creature textures definitely could use an AI-powered upscale, I might be mistaken but a lot of them are 512x512? A lot of older games look much better after that, you might want googling for baldurs gate ai-upscaled samples of location backgrounds...

Just look up some YouTube vids explaining the technology: https://youtu.be/MWglviTG6XE

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thGryphn
thGryphn


Promising
Famous Hero
posted June 22, 2020 09:59 AM

Xuxo my friend, you should advertise your new version!
In the OP, everyone

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Greenpakto
Greenpakto


Adventuring Hero
posted June 22, 2020 04:42 PM

OMFG. This is sorely needed for Heroes 5 and some for 5.5. Its so ancient nowadays in its graphics. Welcome back!

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Greenpakto
Greenpakto


Adventuring Hero
posted June 22, 2020 04:46 PM

Velote said:
Photozoom doesn't rely on neural networking and adaptive AI... you won't understand until you try both. AI-based solutions kinda make up the missing detail instead of just processing the bare input with a fixed logic.

Creature textures definitely could use an AI-powered upscale, I might be mistaken but a lot of them are 512x512? A lot of older games look much better after that, you might want googling for baldurs gate ai-upscaled samples of location backgrounds...

Just look up some YouTube vids explaining the technology: https://youtu.be/MWglviTG6XE


Creatures does need improved textures. They are looking very low res.

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Velote
Velote

Tavern Dweller
posted June 23, 2020 09:03 PM
Edited by Velote at 21:04, 23 Jun 2020.

I always found it hard to explain with words the difference between neural network powered upscaling (which adds made-up, as if by a human artist's guess, detail) and regular upscaling which merely processes existing data.

But when you try it yourself you'll go WOOOW.

For 1080p a 2x upscale would make a world of difference. For 4K a 4x upscale would definitely improve things over 2x but could clog the game's rendering pipeline that's overly reliant on the CPU and can't really take advantage of modern GPUs.

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Footman
Footman


Hired Hero
posted June 27, 2020 04:49 PM
Edited by Footman at 16:56, 27 Jun 2020.

Why there is no water mill in mod?

By the way, how do you feel about creatures from 6 heroes?

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xuxo
xuxo


Promising
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posted June 27, 2020 04:56 PM

the water mill at the end cost to add because I could not modify the animations, but now I know. I'm creating my own animation for wheels and spinning elements, to add them as a modelinstance. easier to modify. For the next version there will be both new mills.

I like the Heroes VI units for Heroes VI. I consider Heroes V a 50% cartoon game, there is no point importing them for me.

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Greenpakto
Greenpakto


Adventuring Hero
posted June 27, 2020 05:04 PM

xuxo said:
the water mill at the end cost to add because I could not modify the animations, but now I know. I'm creating my own animation for wheels and spinning elements, to add them as a modelinstance. easier to modify. For the next version there will be both new mills.

I like the Heroes VI units for Heroes VI. I consider Heroes V a 50% cartoon game, there is no point importing them for me.


Thats a shame since I am not a fan of the cartoon creatures. heroes 6 has the best looking creatures of the bunch. Well in that case I hope the art for the H5 creatures get better resolution at least.

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thGryphn
thGryphn


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Famous Hero
posted June 27, 2020 06:46 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 21:06, 27 Jun 2020.

xuxo said:
Seeing the latest events, I have decided after so many years, to ban the use of my mod in the installation of MM5.5., Being fully compatible from an external download. Actually, they have been using it for 5 years without my permission, I privately prohibited it, they ignored me and decided to disappear, now I do it publicly to stay. Can they legally use it? Of course. Does it seem ethical to do so? no.


This is duplicitousness at the max.

Explain to me the following personal agreement we had over Discord:





The fact is, we came to an understanding to use your work in MMH5.5 under the condition that you set, and now after discussions with Quantomas that are completely unrelated to you, you walk back from your promise.

Plus, you do this with a very open intent to publicly shame MMH5.5, saying basically "I don't give you my permission, it's there, it's legal to use it but not ethical to use it" with intent to be able to say publicly "see, they used it without my permission"

This, after coming to an agreement in private. Shame on you.

You try to paint MMH5.5 as unethical but walking back from a personal "word" is the ultimate unethical behavior in my book. Shame on you.

I've supported you with what happened 5 years ago, and very respectfully tried to honor your demands to come to an agreement now without terms. Shame on you.

Before and after this agreement, I spent many hours helping you improve your mod and improve its compatibility with MMH5.5. Shame on you.

Let me tell you what's going to happen now: I will personally work on an HD textures mod for MMH5.5, without touching your precious product. I will personally import some assets from H6, as a base to work on. I'm telling you now because a lot of your assets are actually imports from H6, and I don't want you bug me or MMH5.5 later with fallacious claims of using your work.

MMH5.5 doesn't need your work to be great, and I will be personally very happy to disassociate from someone who would walk back from his promises, causes me to spend my many hours to improve their product under these promises, then plots to publicly shame me and MMH5.5 under false pretenses, and basically fails to act honorably.

Now go back to your master and have fun acting like his puppet while he kills another 10 years with nothing to show.

PS: Don't complain later your mod is not compatible with MMH5.5.


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xuxo
xuxo


Promising
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posted June 27, 2020 06:58 PM
Edited by xuxo at 19:07, 27 Jun 2020.

What if I can affirm that it is not ethical or mature, is that you publish private conversations. Have we signed any contract? what a tremendous disappointment. the only thing you achieve is to convince me more of my decision, and to leave you in evidence. But if you want, you could also publish the conversation where do you insult me?

PS: if you remove HDtex.pak which is my mod used without permission these 5 years my mod is 100% 5.5 compliant. Regards

PD2: from now on I will only answer mature people, I will ignore the discussions completely.

PD3: I'm going to be so busy, I don't care what you do in 5.5. I don't plan to review it.

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thGryphn
thGryphn


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Famous Hero
posted June 27, 2020 08:53 PM - penalty applied by Galaad on 27 Jun 2020.

xuxo said:
What if I can affirm that it is not ethical or mature, is that you publish private conversations. Have we signed any contract? what a tremendous disappointment. the only thing you achieve is to convince me more of my decision, and to leave you in evidence. But if you want, you could also publish the conversation where do you insult me?

PS: if you remove HDtex.pak which is my mod used without permission these 5 years my mod is 100% 5.5 compliant. Regards

PD2: from now on I will only answer mature people, I will ignore the discussions completely.

PD3: I'm going to be so busy, I don't care what you do in 5.5. I don't plan to review it.


Please go ahead and publish where I used the f word against you. You deserve it and I am still behind it.

It is not unethical to post private conversations if you come and post this public BS that pretends those conversations and agreements never happened. My post is only in response to your BS for everyone to see what really happened. You cannot publicly blame people with bogus claims and expect nothing to happen in return. You are a dishonorable person who cannot stand behind his word, and the last person to blame anyone else with unethical behavior as your trap here implies. Word is contract in my book. Talking about written contracts on a public forum for modding community is laughable and goes to show who you are: "Oh, I cannot keep my word because we didn't sign a contract"

You disgrace this community.


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