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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted June 06, 2013 05:28 PM |
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Wait...
you people actually believe that you will get the number written in the lower part that said the "total value"
It was logical from the start that you will get the individual rewards you would have got each day.
Like me. I got tickets in 3 days and I think I will get them (did not cash in yeat), and Im happy for this.
Who ever gave you the idea you'll get the "Gold" value that summarizes the idividual days?
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Adrius
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
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posted June 06, 2013 05:36 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 17:39, 06 Jun 2013.
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It's not obvious at all, one would assume that it was an additional bonus for waiting so damn long to cash in.
It's a weird comparison to include anyway, how do they calculate it? If the conversion ratio of seals vs gold is any hint then 150 seals is 15 000 gold, so if I got lucky and didn't get any tickets that draws down my day-7-seals I would get uh, 400 seals at least? I don't even know.
Well you're level 80, you obviously have a lot of time and energy to play this and probably cash in a lot on tournaments anyway, so I get that it's probably no big deal for you.
Considering the tournament tickets, this benefits high-level players way more than the newbs really.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 06, 2013 05:51 PM |
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Point one:
Level means jack. You can make a good deck out of normal cards as well. I've been trying my no-rare deck in the normal meta and managed to get several wins. I even encoutered a 1,5k elo player who ended with 1HP when facing it.
Also I usually encounter people on level 10-17 on the same elo and their is no way in which they are inferior to me on my 80.
Point two:
Swiss tournaments are a good thing, you get the same gold and EXP as in a normal game, and you get to meat different players then usuall. But even if it is unlikely for you to win, you still have a chance 1 to 6 to get a free emilio's pack for just taking part.
Point three:
I understand that you would like to get Gold or Boosts on lower levels, but you get seals for free, or as in one case here 6 tickets that are worth more 200 seals. You get this just for loging in. Would you rather get 2x for first win? Not me. I see no problem and I even like the randomnes.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted June 06, 2013 06:17 PM |
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Quote:
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Nearly no gold, only half of othr people seals and lots of useless (for me) scraps of paper... if only I could exchange them for gold or trade with other players...
so you received in total for the week:
4100 gold
9 tickets
85 seals
TOTAL VALUE 53600 gold....
hmmm i wonder how we could actually cash in the reward to get the gold instead of all the other stuff - not possible as it is now.
Actually, I didn't even get the tickets. I have 4, and I had +6 tickets on 6th Day. Something strange is going on...
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Adrius
Honorable
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Stand and fight!
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posted June 06, 2013 06:54 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 18:59, 06 Jun 2013.
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@Dave: I think what daily rewards should be about is helping the feeling of progression, as it is currently implemented I'm not really sure how much faster I will actually progress from the previous extreeeemely slow version. Like I mentioned on the previous page, it would take me two weeks of waiting to get enough seals for a Herald pack, and at the rate I currently play (1-3 duels per day) I don't see myself going forward at any quick pace.
Especially with Emilio's Packs now containing 3 sets, the chance of getting what you want without seals is smaller than ever.
You may say "if you want more then play more", however that is GRINDING, playing with cards I've long grown bored of over and over to finally buy that one booster and MAYBE, just maybe, get something useful. That's not a steady progression, it's a diceroll where I have a 5/6 of getting a slap in my face, and I don't have the energy for it.
You mention that low ranks are probably on the same power as you, and while that may be true it's not what I care most about: a major fun part of TCG is collecting cards, and that process is excruciatingly slow.
I don't think my position is unique among players.
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Regardless of how I feel, I find it pretty obvious that the current implementation of daily rewards is very very weird for a F2P formula, for reasons I mentioned on the previous page.
A F2P game needs to give its players a sense of progression or they WILL leave. "well if they want quick progression then they should pay", true, but the majority won't, and every F2P title stands and falls on the freeloaders.
Without the freeloaders the game will stagnate, it will take longer and longer to find a game, and soon it will degenerate into a playground for none but the most hardcore fans, the devs will move on, and it will die, slowly and painfully.
Note: quotes in post are not Dave's, just average F2P arguments that I try and counter.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted June 06, 2013 10:27 PM |
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Strange, people are vibing that they didn't get the gold that was said they would get.
I got exactly 23,550 gold and 65 seals as my Day 7 said:
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redemperor30
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posted June 06, 2013 10:36 PM |
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Strange, people are vibing that they didn't get the gold that was said they would get.
I got exactly 23,550 gold and 65 seals as my Day 7 said:
By the looks of it you should of got just over 16 k gold, chk ur sums. Lets chk this next week.
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xlnt
Known Hero
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posted June 07, 2013 04:06 PM |
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guys - i got it 
so it's random prize with incremental value, so u get 1 ticket or 1 boost or some 1-2-3k gold BUT over all u get incremental value rewards
so we have pools from which to pull a reward out of say 3-4 options
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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Look into my eyes...
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posted June 08, 2013 09:43 AM |
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Gold growth = Gold growth (same)
Gold Boost + 1 = Gold growth x 6
Tournament ticket + 1 = 1 tournament ticket which equates to 4,500 gold in value)
Seals growth = Seals growth (same)
Any others?
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The_Polyglot
Promising
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Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted June 09, 2013 02:11 PM |
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How do I go about reporting a player? I met a very sore loser today who kept insulting me instead of trying to overturn the match.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 09, 2013 02:29 PM |
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I have a link in the guide sticky.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted June 09, 2013 03:22 PM |
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted June 09, 2013 05:41 PM |
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Hey Poly, don't even worry about these guys....remember even though they are cursing and insulting you, they are the ones that are upset anyway 
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bloucester
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MSN can go to hell
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posted June 11, 2013 07:46 AM |
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I'm having particular trouble with Ariana decks recently - the new creatures (untaimed wraith, soul-eater lich, OP SPIDERS) in combination with earth (earthquake, stone shield, plague swarm) and dark spells (phantom image, soulreaver, puppet master) seem too much for my creature/rush decks... The opponents keep stalling by clearing the board and/or using resilient creatures like the two liches until they get to 4/6/1 and start puppet mastering me Any ideas how to deal with that apart from godly hands / changing my entire build?
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RMZ1989
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posted June 11, 2013 04:24 PM |
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I'm having particular trouble with Ariana decks recently - the new creatures (untaimed wraith, soul-eater lich, OP SPIDERS) in combination with earth (earthquake, stone shield, plague swarm) and dark spells (phantom image, soulreaver, puppet master) seem too much for my creature/rush decks... The opponents keep stalling by clearing the board and/or using resilient creatures like the two liches until they get to 4/6/1 and start puppet mastering me Any ideas how to deal with that apart from godly hands / changing my entire build?
Sadly, there isn't much that creature/rush deck can do against control decks like those...
My main deck is Inferno rush, when I see Ariana or Kal-Azaar, I know that it is pretty much over.
My alt deck(on another account) is Seria control(because I don't have Ariana or Nergal), and I don't even have some strong cards. I have two Puppet Masters, two Cure of the Netherworlds and two Tsunamis, but that is it, I don't have any Shadow Image or Soulreaver at all,and I still barely lose to any creature/rush deck, I lose sometimes when they have great hand while mine is pathetic, but even that depends from game to game, because even with bad hand I can stale until I get Tsunami and Puppet Master out. And I don't have good creatures, I am not passing level 3 Might to compensate for lack of level 2 Magic that Ariana has from the start.
Was watching the Matrix.disc stream in a past few days, and he is playing Control Dhamiria deck, and holy cow, that deck is retarded. Many of the good players are saying that it is one of the strongest decks right now.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 12, 2013 05:57 PM |
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I have a theory that the rewards are based on the time you spend in the game. Last week I played a lot and had 150 seals, This week I had almost no time and got 85
BTW anybody has a fun deck to recomend which is not "All creature" and "Necro control"
My No-rare deck and Adar are getting boaring
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We are many, and you can be one of us.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
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Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted June 12, 2013 06:07 PM |
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Dunno, I play a creature-based Ishuma control deck with light spell support, and while I do lose often (My win rate's about 30-40%), it can be very satisfying.
No, I think there are a set number of reward trees, with minimal numeric variations. For example, I guessed my daily rewards on day 2, and I turned out to be almost exactly right. It was the Gold-heavy one which someone had already posted here, mine is off by a few hundred gold each day. I'll take a screenie tomorrow.
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RedEmperor30
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posted June 12, 2013 07:05 PM |
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I have a theory that the rewards are based on the time you spend in the game. Last week I played a lot and had 150 seals, This week I had almost no time and got 85
BTW anybody has a fun deck to recomend which is not "All creature" and "Necro control"
My No-rare deck and Adar are getting boaring
you could try the dharmia matrix_disc deck!!! fortune based deck, only 4 pao hunters  ) apparently the strongest deck on the planet!!
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted June 12, 2013 08:12 PM |
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Pao Hunters?
Sounds interesting... Any links to a build?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 12, 2013 08:17 PM |
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Lulz, I think he means deathseekers
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