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DoubleDeck
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posted July 24, 2013 01:20 PM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 13:22, 24 Jul 2013.

Quote:
@ DD
I've been making some math of my own.... and I came to these conclusions

1: If the probability of 1 out of 7 cards is true. Then the chance to get an epic in your booster is 14%.
2: Since, in the base set there are 14 epic cards, the chance to get the card you want is 1%.
3: In a box you should find an avarage of 1,5 epic cards.


@Dave_Jame
You are correct in your workings above, but you are talking about getting a specific card.
My calculations are relating to relating to getting a "type" of card, e.g. an epic fortune card. From the base set, this would be 5 / 59 = 8.5% (59 being 45 + 14 rare and epic cards).
It changes for commmon and uncommon cards, in other words, the probabilities get higher, due to that fact that you have 8 chances (common) and 3 chances (uncommon) of getting a certain card type.

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RedEmperor30
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posted July 24, 2013 01:25 PM

First blood Double, using his pao calculator, he takes 3 life points from Dave... will this be his tactics throughout the match?

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Dave_Jame
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posted July 24, 2013 02:17 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 14:33, 24 Jul 2013.

But DD..  tell me:-)
How often do you say to your self "I need a common creaturre, or an Uncommon spell"?. Never. You say to yorself I need a Fireball or Soulreaver. I could use some more weaknesses.

So the important question is not "What will I get" But "What are the chances to get what I want"

When we would speak about common cards
In the base set there are 80 cards. One card is 100/80. 1.25% to get the  card you want. Since there are 8 of them in a pack, you could symply say that I have a 8x1,25% chance to get the common I want (that would be 10%).

But in fact it is more. since there can be no duplicats, each spot you do not get the card you need increases slightly the chancce in the next spot.
The whole formula would then look like this
(100/80)+(100/79)+(100/78)+(100/77)+(100/76)+(100/75)+(100/74)+(100/73)

And the total number would be
10,46691% to get the common card you want

To make it complete (pleas correct me if I'm wrong)
The probability of getting a card you want in a reinforcement pack are:
(for the base set)
Common 10,46691%
Uncommon 4,412401%
Rare 1,904762%
Epic 1,020408%
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RedEmperor30
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posted July 24, 2013 02:29 PM

OOOWwww, with a fierce retribution counter attack, Dave hits back with a +3 honour degree in stats, combined with a Bloodfrenzied wyvern thats 7 life points GONE!!!! Didn't see that coming, gents we have a match on our hands here!!

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Elvin
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posted July 24, 2013 02:38 PM

Meanwhile here is my Dhamiria deck.
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The_Polyglot
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posted July 24, 2013 03:09 PM

Trolls like him make me sad.
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 24, 2013 03:17 PM

You cockblocked him with Zardoc and he took offense?
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The_Polyglot
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posted July 24, 2013 03:20 PM
Edited by The_Polyglot at 15:21, 24 Jul 2013.

Nah, updated my own spin, as I recently opened 2 Boromirs. But yeah, seems like he took it badly, can't imagine why.
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RMZ1989
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posted July 24, 2013 03:50 PM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 15:52, 24 Jul 2013.

Elvin said:
Meanwhile here is my Dhamiria deck.

Interesting.

Btw, in your description, you are saying that Adar-Malik is one of your biggest problems. My question is why? I know that never-ending Atropos is overpowered, but in my games, I can't touch him with it. Even if I recycle him again and again with creatures, all of the creatures just keep dying to Hellfire Maniacs. He doesn't have dispel, and from where Dhamiria has ~10+ resources, she keeps using her special every turn to discard a spell and add some lower cost creature to the battlefield.

From the point where she gets Might of the Nature, she keeps casting Earthquakes/Insect Swarms that do close to no damage to her creatures. Met like 5-6 Dhamirias, never won a single game, no matter if I play against Slowpoke or Arbiter Lock(usually with Abyssal Lords).

And what kind of Adar-Malik wins against you? Is it the 6-1-4 variant, 5-6-1, 6-4-1 or some other types? If it is the 6-1-4/6-4-1 with Banshees, I understand why he is winning, I don't have that much Banshees though.

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Elvin
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posted July 24, 2013 04:28 PM

The kind with banshees and revival fortunes or banshees with armageddon and stuff. Don't mind much those with 4 magic.
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RMZ1989
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posted July 24, 2013 08:15 PM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 20:21, 24 Jul 2013.

Great, after the patch, the game has new bugs(How shocking, ISN'T IT!?)...

Played against slowpoke Dhamiria, whenever Week of Austerity was in play(just 1), I payed extra for the Creatures, and took 1 damage.
With 1 Week of Austerity, my Soul-Consuming Lich cost 5 resources and I took 1 damage, and my Lamasu wasted 4 resources and I also took one damage...

Edit: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/782542-Week-of-Austerity-is-bugged?s=ed7ab532fe1db83229315c8e7898c0ee
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bloucester
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MSN can go to hell
posted July 24, 2013 08:27 PM

Quote:
Meanwhile here is my Dhamiria deck.


Don't you wanna add some Ravagers? They seem too good with The Might of Nature?

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Dave_Jame
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posted July 24, 2013 08:30 PM

So I cant play half of my decks due to bug abuse?
Dame  you UBI
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Elvin
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posted July 24, 2013 09:06 PM

Might of nature takes its time and ravagers are a very risky card until then..
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The_Polyglot
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posted July 24, 2013 11:00 PM

5 winstreak with a rush-ish Ishu post-nerf, and I'm nearing my best ELO rating yet. Guess all those Nergals switched heroes and are getting the savage beatings they rightfully deserve.
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bloucester
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MSN can go to hell
posted July 25, 2013 02:11 AM

A change nobody seems to mention - now you chose whether to keep your hand before you can see if you start first or second... no me gusta...

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DoubleDeck
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posted July 25, 2013 07:54 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 07:56, 25 Jul 2013.

Dave_Jame said:

When we would speak about common cards
In the base set there are 80 cards. One card is 100/80. 1.25% to get the  card you want. Since there are 8 of them in a pack, you could symply say that I have a 8x1,25% chance to get the common I want (that would be 10%).

But in fact it is more. since there can be no duplicats, each spot you do not get the card you need increases slightly the chancce in the next spot.
The whole formula would then look like this
(100/80)+(100/79)+(100/78)+(100/77)+(100/76)+(100/75)+(100/74)+(100/73)


@Dave_Jame, I don't want to harp on it, but my probabilities as I mentioned are for getting a card type, not a specific card.

Your reasoning of 1.25% getting a common card you want is wrong because there are for instance more common creature cards (34) than common event cards (5) so the probabilities are different statistically.
You would not take 100, you would use the number of type of card and work it in the chance of NOT getting it and then minus it from 1 to get the chance of getting it. And you wouldn't ADD each increment you would MULTIPLY:

So for common creature from base set:

Common creatures = 34.
Total common cards = 80.
80 - 34 = 46.
8 chances in pack.
46/80 * 46/79 * 46/78 * 46/77 * 46/76 * 46/75 * 46/74 * 46/73 = 0.017%
1 - 0.017 = 98.3%.
98.3% chance of opening a pack and getting a common creature card.

Yes, commons and uncommons, who cares. It's more to tell yourself the probability of getting a rare/epic or even hero that is important.

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bloucester
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MSN can go to hell
posted July 25, 2013 08:13 AM

Just before the patch. Necro was so underpowered, it really needed a buff.


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RedEmperor30
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posted July 25, 2013 09:00 AM

a chilling hush has fallen on the battlefield as double goes for the jugular...

it looks like a kai's grand finale about to unfold - can dave stop this obscene end move.....??

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The_Polyglot
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posted July 25, 2013 12:16 PM

@Bloucester: I can still see it, as usual
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