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RedEmperor30
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posted July 22, 2013 12:48 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Yeah, I already thought about investing some real money anyway, if only to acknowledge the good work those people do and "pay up" for a game that's a lot of fun.
shot thats how i justified the purchase, for a free game i've had more than enough game play to cover the cost... good luck on opening the boxes 
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted July 22, 2013 12:57 PM |
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@JJ: I am a determined freeloader playing an underpowered faction, and I still managed to get 1-2 good deck's worth of cards relatively fast. What I did was spending my starter seals + early levels on Void Rising boxes,(1200 a pop back then) because Sanctuary's gameplay was what got me wanting to play in the first place, (And hooked me later on  ) and it was really useful that most of that set is Naga: lessened the amount of dead cards per box, and maximized fun. Sure, I took a lot longer than Infernoobs to break 1001, but I wasn't lost when I finally did, and remained competitive in the 1100-1150 range prior to Herald, and 1001-1100 after it hit.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 01:38 PM |
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Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of fun experimenting with decks, even if they are underpowered and won't get me far up the ELO ranking.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2013 01:42 PM |
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Welcome aboard JJ  I have personally not spent any money and I have been here since the beginning, sometimes playing on and off, others more regularly. Currently at 130+ level with average elo around 1300. I am not alone in this, plenty of the major players reached their position without spending money simply because in the long term it doesn't matter. Those who grind have exactly the same chances to get a good collection of cards as those who pay, with the latter speeding up the process. Eventually the free players will catch up though they will have a harder earlygame and yes, they will be trashed if they happen to be paired with someone well above their elo or if they face a deck for which they have little to no counters. If you were to spend a little, a good time would be a) in the beginning b) after lvl 50 where there are no extra seals every 10 levels c) when a new expansion comes out because new sets are only purchasable with seals, not gold.
You may want to check the newcomer guide sticky, you will no doubt have questions and I think I have covered most. There are also redeem codes for free packs so go get them 
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 02:44 PM |
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WOW!
Thanks for those codes!
6 reinforcement packs plus 275 Seals is quite nice!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2013 03:01 PM |
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You welcome So what faction will you be starting with?
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:13 PM |
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Yes, finishing the campaign and using all of the codes, you have enough seals to get the Box, and few reinforcement packs on top of that, which is great start.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:26 PM |
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I already did. Had my old test account from a year ago for Loc, when I had done the first two campaigns. So Friday I started to have a good look at my deck, after I had unpacked the stuff I had already waiting for me. Since I got Nergal I switched to him. Mass Reg is pretty cool for Necro - but the deck lacks in really good creatures. So Necro has become something of a semi-rush deck, albeit with fairly Common material and a few good Earth spells plus low-cost Necro Fortunes. The deck is in dire need of uncommon, rare and a couple of epic cards.
Yesterday I couldn't resist to test a Stronghold deck that I had been assembling with a distinct lack in low-cost units, but with a couple of enraged creatures and 2 Assassins plus a couple of good Fire and Air spells, and after a resounding defeat by a really high-quality Inferno deck that left me no chance I managed a couple of tight victories, the last of which took me 22 rounds, about one third of which fighting with only 1 HP left, Haven opponent stuck at 16.
That was fairly interesting stuff, having a Berserked Assassin (oh the suicide ) backed by a Wyvern Rider (Enrage 2 and Magic Resist). There was always the threat of an OTK from that point onwards, especially when I managed to slip in a Centaur Marauder (and later another Wyvern Rider), so he had to block off the biggies, sacrificing creatures, hoping to make me kill myself via the Berserked Assassin, but when I was down to 1 HP I Firebolted my own Assassin.
I mean, those Wyvern Riders are expensive for 7 Res, but Christ, are they threatening! Which is true for the Cyclops as well that comes with a second hit. I mean, with Stronghold you have so many ways to boost attack power, and Fire spells fit really great
So that was fun.
However, with 6 new packs and 1200 Seals I doubt those decks will survive the evening. I expect a major adjustment.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted July 22, 2013 03:33 PM |
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So I hear they're nerfing Nergal?... Kekekekekekeke
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:44 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 15:45, 22 Jul 2013.
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The_Polyglot said:
So I hear they're nerfing Nergal?... Kekekekekekeke
Same as The Week of the Wild Spirits, riiiiight? 
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:45 PM |
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Yeah - who cares? 1 Res for dealing 1 OVERTIME damage is ok.
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:45 PM |
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The_Polyglot said:
So I hear they're nerfing Nergal?... Kekekekekekeke
don't be a hater, everyone has at least tried nerg once
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 03:48 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Yeah - who cares? 1 Res for dealing 1 OVERTIME damage is ok.
People think that it will make Nergal too weak, I think that it will make him good and balanced. And we will start to see different Nergals again, and not just Magic Creatures Nergal that vast majority is playing nowadays.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 04:07 PM |
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I also don't think, that the nerf will make him too weak (but what do I know). I had to play him, though, since I have only him and Seria for Necro, and Seria has no special, which seems to be, well, too weak. The other thing with Nergal is, that he cannot use the Dark spells (that you get with the starter pack), so for an early Nergal the ability is ok (and may be indeed a bit weakfish), but once you get a couple of decent spells, it seems to be alright.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted July 22, 2013 04:15 PM |
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Speaking of Nergal, I was playing in a Swiss, second round, against Kat OTK. One of the sweetest victories in my life(generally, I hate OTKs...), at round 8-9 I think, I used Cosmic Balance event and discarded few of her cards, and one of those was Kat's Grand Finale.
Then he used Earth Shield, to try and buy some time(not like that he would be able to do something at all without Kat's Grand Finale), and I just dispelled it for a great victory.
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bloucester
Famous Hero
MSN can go to hell
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posted July 23, 2013 03:44 AM |
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I just deleted the game. I'm sick and tired of losing to one and the same broken decks over and over again - Nergal, Adar Malik, Sanctuary fortunes, Inferno fortunes. Seems like 90% of the top players are using just 4 decks. It is boring, the new patch screwed up a potentially great game. I was playing for fun, but being beaten by broken spiders and spells all the time is just not worth it.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted July 23, 2013 08:43 AM |
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I understand you but the situation is not that bad. There are a lot of people who just do not have the cads for these
Sure necro in general needs a nerf especialy the Atropos abuse. And Dhamiria could use one aswell but...
Im playing a lot of "Unusual decks" and I still have a lot od fun
My 3 top favorits are
Adar Malik Wrait Bomb.... Hard to play combo deck that just can be evil in so many ways.
Shaar No-Rare Kitten OTK... It's just to fun to trample your oponent with the weakest creature in the game
And for the last few day, I got inspired by Poly and tried a Yukiko deck. Works like a semi-rush with lots of CC and Deck cotrol. Its not that strong as Poly's (or so think) but it wins often and is fun for both sides.
These deck may not get you to 1500, but will get you a lot of gold and fun
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted July 23, 2013 09:10 AM |
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I'm sorry to hear youre frustration bloucester, we have ALL been there!! however Dave makes a great point, there are some cray fun decks out there that may not get you smashing to 1500, BUT will give you an awesome duel time in the upper 1000 elo's.
Poly and I had a test duel the other night, i had experimental Dharmia [no not arbiter lock or slow poke], Poly had his own evil creation - we played out to 0 cards with his bad ass grey dragon regurgitating into has hand - was epic and fun... i hope you come back on board
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 23, 2013 09:54 AM |
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Not to mentiom they have hired more personnel, also specifically for balance testing, plus a new faction expansion lurks on the horizon for autumn, and finally spectator mode is coming.
Strangely enough losing doesn't piss me off, actually. I will probably also play less ranked stuff and more "friendly duels" to just test decks and try things out. There is a lot of fun in all this.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted July 23, 2013 10:09 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Not to mentiom they have hired more personnel, also specifically for balance testing, plus a new faction expansion lurks on the horizon for autumn, and finally spectator mode is coming.
Strangely enough losing doesn't piss me off, actually. I will probably also play less ranked stuff and more "friendly duels" to just test decks and try things out. There is a lot of fun in all this.
Yeah, it doesn't piss me off either, I am fine with it, I got a little bit pissed when somebody got a lot of luck, but luck is big factor here, it is ok, I guess.
And I don't meet many broken decks(except in the tourneys), because I am playing on a lower level(500 - 1000), since I am farming. I made a mistake once and rushed 1001 Elo with my Inferno deck, then I was losing 9 out of 10 games.
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