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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted August 01, 2014 12:26 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 00:26, 01 Aug 2014.
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@Dagoth Thanks a lot man! I will try that type of deck tomorrow, I am interested to see cause I really have not won anything with Rogue so far. I can post my deck too, but it will be so much plainer cause I indeed miss all the legendaries.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 01, 2014 01:33 AM |
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I just like to share my love for rogue, man. I'd like it if people thought a deck outside of miracle would be viable. I hope it works out, man.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted August 01, 2014 03:11 AM |
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Well there are still people who play the super aggro rogue, with the Southsea Deckhands and double Arcane Golems and Leeroy, and then Tempo Rogue works decently in this Zoo meta, so that's semi-viable... But yeah, miracle is clearly the best rogue.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 01, 2014 03:20 AM |
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While I feel miracle has the best ups, it is too unreliable and gimmicky for me, like freeze mage without giants. Obviously, that's a nooby thing to say though. Since previous season had 14 out of 16 of the top 16 players play miracle.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted August 01, 2014 04:06 AM |
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The winrates kind of speak for themselves, don't they? In general once you get a Gadgetzan out you can draw everything, and you have tons of removal to stall until then. And I don't think Freeze Mage is that bad either, it has a lot of ways to stall and card draw to get to all those methods.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 01, 2014 10:02 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:12, 01 Aug 2014.
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@DagothGares
I'm a No Rank Man, I didn't play even a single Ranked duel 
What I say about Hearthstone combos is based on my experiences, so I don't know if they're any good in competitive play where you have all those Miracle, Zoo and other decks. Seriously I don't even know what they are all about, sometimes I read about them from curiosity, but I'm not too familiar with them...
I'm a casual player, but I fought a lot of duels already, so I can share some of my observations with you guys, but when it comes to "professional" Hearthstone play, I'm not a man to ask...
BTW: I recently started to play Rogue with success thanks to Leeroy (I also use Arcane Golem), and Blade Flurry which reduces probably the biggest weakness of a Rouge: dealing with many minions at once 
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 02, 2014 10:28 AM |
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So, in my case, I was finally able to play the Plague Quarter.
For now I've defeated all three heroes on Normal, and I must say, it was enjoyable. Noth even gave me a hard time, I've defeated him the second time, because his deck is really tricky, he has many Mage's Secrets and Taunt'ers like the Abomination, so it's hard to get a hit on him. He could be really hard on Heroic. The second hero is a Warlock type, and he also gets tricky, because, well, he's a Warlock boosted with new cards that bring even more Demons Though I did defeat him in my first try. Loatheb has 75 HP, and gets tricky with his Spores. You'll see
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 02, 2014 11:48 AM |
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Vindicator said:
The winrates kind of speak for themselves, don't they? In general once you get a Gadgetzan out you can draw everything, and you have tons of removal to stall until then. And I don't think Freeze Mage is that bad either, it has a lot of ways to stall and card draw to get to all those methods.
Supposedly miracle is on the decline with freeze mage, p2warrior and druid (all varieties) on the rise, though. I know miracle has 40% win ratio versus everything at least (A bit higher versus most things), but it seems very painful against warror and mage to achieve 50%+ before you die or run out of steam (empty deck).
Not to mention that Loatheb is incredibly based and painful versus miracoli.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 02, 2014 12:07 PM |
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I won't take Loatheb into any of my decks cause his to situational for my taste, but I think it's a card that has a potential to really stir things up in the competitive scene...
I wonder how Stoneskin Gargoyle will play out in my Druid deck. With Mark of the Wild for instance he can be a really hard to kill Taunt'er with that regeneration ability of his. Actually he can be a really good blocker if you ask me... but without buffs he's not that good so I'll just experiment a bit with him...
I also wonder about Sludge Belcher as he seems to be a card that's a good alternative for Senjin Shieldmaster.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 02, 2014 01:50 PM |
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Sludge belcher is basically a tazdingo + goldshire footman for the same cost, but one card less. So he's good.
I'm reluctant to use stoneskin gargoyle, because if they manage to silence it or remove it at the cost of 1 card and I used 2 cards, then I basically gave myself the short end of the stick.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted August 02, 2014 02:15 PM |
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Not only is slugde belcher a two-in-one card for the same price, it also means you can't AoE them at the same time so I really like that.
Garogyle on the other hand costs 3 mana which gets beaten down by a 3/2 + hero ability without even trading. It's also a great acolyte of pain/enrage bait. meh.
If it relies too much on being buffed.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 03, 2014 10:40 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:28, 03 Aug 2014.
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Just wanted to share with you Guys about how easily I've defeated Heroic Noth (on my third try, first I tried to fight him with a Mage and a Warrior).
Round one I've casted an Argent Squire, not knowing that she will win me the whole duel Apparently AI does not target minions with Divine Shield thinking that maybe it would be a waste, or it didn't want to loose a minion. I've casted Backstab on his Undertaker and combo'ed my Squire with Cold Blood round two, so almost instantly I started to wreck my enemy with a 5/1 minion. After that I've casted just Perdition Blade + Deadly Poison followed by Blade Flurry to clear his two Skeleton Smiths (Oh, the irony! Their Deathrattle is destroy your opponents weapon .) That Leeroy was for show, I didn't need to cast him to win this s*it. Hope my little Divine Shield trick will help you beat him somehow, as Noth can be quite a challenge with his 5/5 Skeleton per dead (player) minion passive ability...
All in all, the less minions you have the better, and check that Divine Shield AI trick...
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EDIT: Heroic Heigan is so ridiculously OP that it's not even funny...
I've fought with him maybe 20 times already, and I didn't even bring him to 1/2 of his health even once. He produces so many minions in such a short time that you're not able to counter them in any way either because you don't have enough mana or spells to do that, and his board control is plain crazy (ability, Soulfire or strong minions). Almost every time he instantly boosts his Voidcaller with Demonfire and by the time I destroy it, I'm already down 1/3 health at best. And 90% he either gets a Doomguard or Dread Infernal with his Deathrattle. No, seriously, it's not even fun...
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DagothGares
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Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 03, 2014 10:23 PM |
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Beat Heigan with a combo priest deck
he can't do anything versus a 20/20 lightwell.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 03, 2014 10:34 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:34, 03 Aug 2014.
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DagothGares said:
Beat Heigan with a combo priest deck
he can't do anything versus a 20/20 lightwell.
Well, assuming I'll draw appropriate cards and survive long enough. The problem with this guy is that he attacks my hero almost every time, and he doesn't even care to look on my minions. To create such a combo I need 7 mana, and that's a bit too late because he usually has 5 minions already...
It's irritating, this should be a strategic game, not a lottery...
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 04, 2014 12:29 AM |
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Priest has several tools of stalling and surviving till then, like playing a lightwell to heal you, using your hero power to heal you, shadow words, pyromancers,auchenais + circle of healing etc.
Play mogushans and stuff.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 04, 2014 08:11 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:14, 04 Aug 2014.
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DagothGares said:
Priest has several tools of stalling and surviving till then, like playing a lightwell to heal you, using your hero power to heal you, shadow words, pyromancers,auchenais + circle of healing etc.
Play mogushans and stuff.
Believe me I try. I'm even using a budget deck that I found somewhere in net (I don't like the Priest class, so I'm not playing him too often, thus I must use a bit of help in constructing his decks). Eventually I'll beat him with this deck (if not, I'll try something else, Mage for instance), but it's not what I call fun. I've beaten previous Heroic Heroes with my own ideas, and with some STRATEGY, while Heigan, in my opinion, is a complete lottery, mainly because of those Voidcallers. Like I said before if they summon Doomguards or Infernals with their ability, I'm as good as dead. Wardens are good for stalling him one turn, but they are too expensive (4 mana + 2 for double health, because 7 health is not a problem for Heigan). Nerubian Eggs are a nice idea, but Heigan destroys those deathrattled Nerubians with Soulfire so I can't even use them :/ I'm thinking about using those new ghouls, cause their Deathrattle does 1 dmg to all (I could get rid of those pesky Imps). Unfortunately I don't have Abominations...
EDIT: I managed to defeat Heigan with the before mentioned Priest deck (with slight modifications), and I used the same deck to defeat Loatheb. Glad that's over with...
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted August 06, 2014 10:12 AM |
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Damn, this weeks the last in which I will have enough gold to buy a Wing (I have just enough). It won't be possible to earn 700 gold in a week I'm afraid. Not with one 40 gold quest per day (I suppose one or two 60 gold ones will happen though), and Arena brings too much risk...
Hope Blizzard will have some more authorization problems to stall the Wings release
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EvilLoynis
Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
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posted August 06, 2014 01:56 PM |
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blob2 said:
It won't be possible to earn 700 gold in a week I'm afraid. Not with one 40 gold quest per day (I suppose one or two 60 gold ones will happen though), and Arena brings too much risk...
Remember in the case of getting a crappy 40 gold quest you can recycle it to get a new one ounce a day for a 2nd chance. If it doesn't work wait till next day, now you have 2 quests choose the junkiest one and recycle it in hopes for a 70 gold one.
The only other real way is every 3 victories in Play Mode gives 10 gold which is never going to get you very far lol.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted August 06, 2014 02:03 PM |
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Wait! How can you recycle dailies?
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted August 06, 2014 02:45 PM |
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Clicking the big red cross on them. You can only do it once per day.
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