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Storm-Giant
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posted August 26, 2014 02:28 PM

War-overlord said:
They needn't be.
Making them Sylanna's Children would indeed make them another form of Green/Emerald/Crystal Dragon. Which would be boring.

Supposing we take the route of emphasising the Faerie instead of the Dragon.
Make them more akin to the Pixies, Dryads and Treants, according to the current lore, and make them forrest-spirits with plant elements.

Exactly, we've got enough of 'Dragon Gods childrem', it's time to have more variety of creatures.

blob2 said:
I don't need that many dragons, but like Storm said, there seems to be a regression of them, and H6 had some of the worst dragon designs if you ask me (only Kirin was somewhat nice)...  

Don't remind me, I refuse to call H6 Dungeon Champion as Black Dragons...they were Star Dragons
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posted August 26, 2014 02:39 PM
Edited by blob2 at 14:39, 26 Aug 2014.

Storm-Giant said:

Don't remind me, I refuse to call H6 Dungeon Champion as Black Dragons...they were Star Dragons


Plus, if they make another re-texture of a Black Dragon, and call it Wraith Dragon or sth I'm gonna put a curse on them ;P

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posted August 26, 2014 02:42 PM

SepSpring said:
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Then why do you bring that to the discussion if we are discussing Faerie dragons?

Colour decisions is not the case of Faerie Dragons. You missed this:
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Yep. Quetzalcoatl is an original creature with its individual characteristics described in myths. Painting dragons in different colours or giving them new abilities is just a placeholder-like decision in situations like "a tier 7 / champion creature is needed, but we're out of ideas", IMO.

It's just a "let's implement a dragon that can cast spells!" decision. According to this logic, we can come up with Faerie Centaurs, Behemoths, Cyclops, Hydras etc. Nevertheless, "HIV" made those creatures more interesting by introducing an ability to mirror magic.

Ah ok, I definetly missed that, my bad.

blob2 said:
Storm-Giant said:

Don't remind me, I refuse to call H6 Dungeon Champion as Black Dragons...they were Star Dragons

Plus, if they make another re-texture of a Black Dragon, and call it Wraith Dragon or sth I'm gonna put a curse on them ;P

Don't give them ideas!
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posted August 26, 2014 02:49 PM

blob2 said:
Plus, if they make another re-texture of a Black Dragon, and call it Wraith Dragon or sth I'm gonna put a curse on them ;P

Far too late
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posted August 26, 2014 03:20 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 15:21, 26 Aug 2014.

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What's the origin of these rules?..
Creature's original name is a part of its cultural aspect. Abandoning it just because it's unusual for English-speaking people is absolutely worthless, IMO.
As I said, my own.

I don't want a HoMM game full of Weise Frauen, Tiddy Mons or Ratatoskrs.

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Quetzalcoatl could be an upgraded version. The base one could be named "Deep Serpent" or "Pao Serpent", for instance.
That was one things I didn't like about the sanctuary units in H6.
The mundane base, exotic upgrade sorta stuff.

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posted August 26, 2014 04:00 PM

I Think still that the dragons for Sylvan should be Green Dragon/Azure Dragon but i also Think it would be viable to have a caster/shooter/flyer faerie/fey Drake for them like an elite creature. not nearly as powerful and not a real dragon, a drake like this

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posted August 26, 2014 04:12 PM

mvassilev said:
So the tiger upgrades by becoming white?


NOOO, ROFL Well then, Liger is the only alternative for an upgrade
Hotarubi said:
Phoenix, teach me how to make that pretty flyer! Pixie image is especially wonderful. Where is it from?

Most of the images are from deviantART. I made the picture in Photoshop. If you do not know how to use Photoshop better alternative for such simple pictures is the good old Paint. As for the Pixie model, here is a link to the original resolution.
Alex_Yakub said:
@PheonixMK: That's one interesting lineup! I especially love the good old HoMM4-style tiger. The only unit I don't like in your lineup is a pegasi rider. Two horses in a row (pegasus and unicorn) is a bit redudant. That was my only complain about HoMM3 rampart.

I'm glad you like it. Elves live in forests and tigers (or other wild animals) would fit nicely in their lineup. In HoMM3 Silver Pegasus are very effective against archers and between the two horses I will choose Pegasus.
I had another option, Treants as an elite unit instead of Unicorns and Phoenix as champion units. However, I think the Phoenix will better fit in Fortress lineup.
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posted August 26, 2014 04:30 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Exactly, we've got enough of 'Dragon Gods childrem', it's time to have more variety of creatures.


But my point is that if they are called Dragons then they are automatically the children of Sylanna so there is not much room for creativity in this regard. I'm sure Green, Black and Bone will make an appearance since the number of champions is doubled.

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posted August 26, 2014 06:12 PM

Danny said:
Storm-Giant said:
Exactly, we've got enough of 'Dragon Gods childrem', it's time to have more variety of creatures.

But my point is that if they are called Dragons then they are automatically the children of Sylanna so there is not much room for creativity in this regard. I'm sure Green, Black and Bone will make an appearance since the number of champions is doubled.

Just say they were created by magic or something like that, tying all dragons to the God Dragons is so booooring
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posted August 26, 2014 06:57 PM

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As I said, my own.

I don't want a HoMM game full of Weise Frauen, Tiddy Mons or Ratatoskrs.

Well, that's your preference. I think we should respect the original culture of specific creatures included into the game. They are really few, so I can't understand why you've written "game full of".

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That was one things I didn't like about the sanctuary units in H6.
The mundane base, exotic upgrade sorta stuff.

Translating "Quetzalcoatl" into English results in "Feathered Serpent". I think its original name sounds a little bit better.

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posted August 26, 2014 07:02 PM

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Well, that's your preference. I think we should respect the original culture of specific creatures included into the game. They are really few, so I can't understand why you've written "game full of".
There's disrespect and then there's thinking something doesn't fit.

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posted August 26, 2014 07:54 PM

SepSpring said:

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That was one things I didn't like about the sanctuary units in H6.
The mundane base, exotic upgrade sorta stuff.

Translating "Quetzalcoatl" into English results in "Feathered Serpent". I think its original name sounds a little bit better.

Don't give them ideas, otherwise we will have Feathered Serpent that will be upgraded to Quetzalcoatl. It will be H6 all over again.
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posted August 26, 2014 07:57 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 19:59, 26 Aug 2014.

Avirosb said:
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What's the origin of these rules?..
Creature's original name is a part of its cultural aspect. Abandoning it just because it's unusual for English-speaking people is absolutely worthless, IMO.
As I said, my own.

I don't want a HoMM game full of Weise Frauen, Tiddy Mons or Ratatoskrs.

Quote:
Quetzalcoatl could be an upgraded version. The base one could be named "Deep Serpent" or "Pao Serpent", for instance.
That was one things I didn't like about the sanctuary units in H6.
The mundane base, exotic upgrade sorta stuff.


i kinda feel the same way if i understand you right. local cultural names are bothering me. its feels like playing within alternate world rather then a fantasy world. i mean hey look this is south american, oh hey look this japan etc etc...
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posted August 26, 2014 10:51 PM

I don't know why is this hate to dragons. I think it's important to have dragons in fantasy world like this in heroes games, also because of dragon utopia which is one of coolest buildings in heroes

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posted August 26, 2014 10:53 PM

dragon said:
I don't know why is this hate to dragons.

Maybe because Ubi had to design the whole Ashan world around some Gods that are...dragons, ALL dragons
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posted August 26, 2014 11:04 PM

Storm-Giant said:
dragon said:
I don't know why is this hate to dragons.

Maybe because Ubi had to design the whole Ashan world around some Gods that are...dragons, ALL dragons

Yea but this will be only second game located in Ashan universe with dragons. Can't count Heroes VI because this dragons were just copy paste one from another just colors changes and some minor details

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posted August 26, 2014 11:07 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 23:07, 26 Aug 2014.

Second game in Ashan? You must be missing H6, MMX, DoC, HO, DM, CoH, HK...yay! :[
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posted August 26, 2014 11:11 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Second game in Ashan? You must be missing H6, MMX, DoC, HO, DM, CoH, HK...yay! :[



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dragon
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posted August 26, 2014 11:15 PM

I thought for heroes of might and magic games only

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posted August 26, 2014 11:16 PM

dragon said:
I thought for heroes of might and magic games only

But there have been only one 'heroes of might and magic' under Ubisoft management!

@LW: Now his motto is 'Rush now, screw later'?
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