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Storm-Giant
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posted August 21, 2014 10:24 PM

Treant as a champion? For some reason it isn't appealing to me

Phoenix + a new creature would be perfect to me. Something original, not a dragon
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Dwarfurious
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posted August 21, 2014 10:42 PM

Phoenix are beings of Fire, that would probably play more into Fortress, but aint a lot of birds underground. Heh, a phoenix bat, that'd be cool.
Anyways, i think Academy already has Dibs on the phoenix/arcane bird

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posted August 21, 2014 10:45 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Phoenix + a new creature would be perfect to me. Something original, not a dragon


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Storm-Giant
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posted August 21, 2014 10:52 PM

I ALWAYS FORGET THE DAMN BIRD WITH HIS STUPID NAME /rant

I guess I'll have to accept treants as a champion unit. Unless they come out with 2 new cool designs...
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Alex_Yakub
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posted August 21, 2014 10:52 PM

RMZ1989 said:
Danny said:
That Lynx rider would be good yeah. So we can expect 4 Elven units + Sprite, Treant, Emerald Dragon and one more Champion I guess.

I am pretty positive that Treant will be another Champion as everything else seems much weaker and they were almost second Champion unit in Heroes 5 with how high their HP and defense was.

If we consider that Dryad, Hunter and Blade Dancer(or some other unit alike) are Cores, Unicorn and Druid are Elites, we need third Elite that is not mounted, some fast walker/cavalry when we have Unicorns already. But maybe they will replace the Unicorns with Lynx Riders and add something else, who knows.

Please, no blade dancers. Lynx riders would replace them just well.
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posted August 21, 2014 10:54 PM

Dwarfurious said:
Phoenix are beings of Fire, that would probably play more into Fortress, but aint a lot of birds underground. Heh, a phoenix bat, that'd be cool.
Anyways, i think Academy already has Dibs on the phoenix/arcane bird

Phoenixes are sacred to Asha according to the current lore, so they would belong to no faction. Not even Necropolis as they Phoenix represents birth and rebirth, rather then their beloved death.
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Dwarfurious
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posted August 21, 2014 11:01 PM

War-overlord said:
Dwarfurious said:
Phoenix are beings of Fire, that would probably play more into Fortress, but aint a lot of birds underground. Heh, a phoenix bat, that'd be cool.
Anyways, i think Academy already has Dibs on the phoenix/arcane bird

Phoenixes are sacred to Asha according to the current lore, so they would belong to no faction. Not even Necropolis as they Phoenix represents birth and rebirth, rather then their beloved death.

Well Academy seems to have Magic Bird/Arcane Bird for a Champion unit, kind of resembles a blue fire phoenix so i was just guessing it was something like that.

may not be accurate though.

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posted August 21, 2014 11:06 PM

Nostalgia aside, Phoenixes never quite fitted into an Elven town. Well, back in H2 it was the Sorceress town so it was sth different, but in my opinion H3 set something of a standard for Elven town, in which I see no place for Phoenixes.

Now I wonder if the devs could try something a little different with dragons. Maybe make them a bit more similar to the dragon gods. Make them more savage, elemental, primeval in nature. Not your traditional scaly D&D dragons. In this way Sylvan would get an Earth Golem like Dragon...

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posted August 22, 2014 12:06 AM

blob2 said:
Nostalgia aside, Phoenixes never quite fitted into an Elven town. Well, back in H2 it was the Sorceress town so it was sth different, but in my opinion H3 set something of a standard for Elven town, in which I see no place for Phoenixes.

Now I wonder if the devs could try something a little different with dragons. Maybe make them a bit more similar to the dragon gods. Make them more savage, elemental, primeval in nature. Not your traditional scaly D&D dragons. In this way Sylvan would get an Earth Golem like Dragon...


I disagree.

In many fantasy strategy games, Elven factions often represent life, precisely because of their affinity with nature. Age of Wonders, Lords of Magic, Disciples, even Heroes- they all carry that Elven/Life binary stereotype.

The Sorceress town was no different. H2, specfically, operated under binaries. Knight (Civilization/Order) VS Barbarian (Chaos, Primacy), Warlock (Dark Arcane) VS Wizard (Light Arcane), Necromancer (Death & Decay) VS Sorceress (Life & Nature).

As Phoenix is a symbol of rebirth and a promise of life, it fits well, at least thematically, into what nature represents. Fire is often perceived as a harbinger of doom, but as water can be just as destructive, so is fire an element that is just as capable of providing life.

The Rampart made a slight shift in thematic focus, true... but by no means did it set an image standard. Phoenixes returned in 4, and although it wasn't part of the Sylvan lineup in 5, the game did deal with a totally new universe.

I'd love if Phoenixes returned to the Nature lineup. Enemies will have to decide whether to go after the vanguard units first or take care of the pesky Phoenixes that can rise again on the spot. Their speed also fits with the Elven fast-strike guerrilla tactics.

That said, I wouldn't be gutted if they didn't return. As long as there are good champions to choose from. But we'll see with the upcoming polls, hehe.

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Danny
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posted August 22, 2014 07:39 AM

The Elves worship the Dragon of Earth so I just don't see how the Phoenix would fit there. It's obvious Ubi turned Phoenix into a unit that does not fit into any lineup. So the most likely scenario is adding the lynx rider and making the Treant a champion...

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VOKIALBG
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posted August 22, 2014 09:36 AM

I'll like to see H3 copy and paste lineup

Maybe Satyrs can come in too
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Rakshasa92
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posted August 22, 2014 06:15 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 19:57, 22 Aug 2014.

... most of the elves being female.

As it should, as in the real world male are dominant most of the time, in the fantasy world, banshees, vouivre, batibat and succubi destroy human males and orcs, dwarves and all other all-male pathetic creatures too easily.

I hope the town only has 2 elves, one male druid and one female hunter, for the rest I really wanna see Cu Sith.

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Dwarfurious
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posted August 22, 2014 06:30 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 19:57, 22 Aug 2014.

Rakshasa92 said:
... most of the elves being female.

As it should, as in the real world male are dominant most of the time, in the fantasy world, banshees, vouivre, batibat and succubi destroy human males and orcs, dwarves and all other all-male pathetic creatures too easily.

I hope the town only has 2 elves, one male druid and one female hunter, for the rest I really wanna see Cu Sith.


I resent this, Dwarves are not lustful people nor are they attracted to outide races, you RARELY see any form of half-dwarf. The only exception would be the Dwarven Succubi of Age of Wonders 3, but who could resist that?

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alex_yakub
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posted August 22, 2014 06:56 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
I hope the town only has 2 elves, one male druid and one female hunter, for the rest I really wanna see Cu Sith.

I, too, hope for those two elves. I think Cu Sith will be too similar to Haven's wolf, though.

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Avonu
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posted August 22, 2014 07:51 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Treant as a champion? For some reason it isn't appealing to me

And now?


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RMZ1989
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posted August 22, 2014 07:58 PM

Treants as champions will be awesome and will probably be among my favorite champions even though I don't like Sylvan that much.
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Rakshasa92
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posted August 22, 2014 08:07 PM
Edited by Rakshasa92 at 20:08, 22 Aug 2014.

alex_yakub said:
Rakshasa92 said:
I hope the town only has 2 elves, one male druid and one female hunter, for the rest I really wanna see Cu Sith.

I, too, hope for those two elves. I think Cu Sith will be too similar to Haven's wolf, though.


??

Cu Sith is a green dog that controlls nature/plants, nothing to do with a boring, normal wolf at all.


I hope the treants are replaced by the Kapre or Jinmenju.

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Alex_Yakub
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posted August 22, 2014 08:09 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
alex_yakub said:
Rakshasa92 said:
I hope the town only has 2 elves, one male druid and one female hunter, for the rest I really wanna see Cu Sith.

I, too, hope for those two elves. I think Cu Sith will be too similar to Haven's wolf, though.


??

Cu Sith is a green dog that controlls nature/plants, nothing to do with a boring, normal wolf at all.


I hope the treants are replaced by the Kapre or Jinmenju.

If you put it that way... yeah, Cu Sith can be a pretty awesome unit
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Danny
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posted August 22, 2014 08:12 PM

Avonu said:
Storm-Giant said:
Treant as a champion? For some reason it isn't appealing to me

And now?




Yeah this is the one I mentioned in the other thread, it is impressive and definitely champion material!

Do you have the other Sylvan pictures of the compendium?

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Avonu
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posted August 22, 2014 08:17 PM
Edited by Avonu at 20:28, 22 Aug 2014.

Only Eugene Xaar's Pixie (green one) and Dryad (blue one) from his evolution picture.

EDIT:
Also these two:




And don't forget about one elf queen before she bought from a stranger new "make-up":

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