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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 13, 2015 08:54 PM |
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Heligrin said:
I find Sandro's behaviour during HO events quite strange too. Especially his talks about salvation in nothingless and "eternal silence of true enlightment".
I don't remember his lines explicitly (will check them later), but I believe it was propaganda-style talks. He actually created a sect religion (for lack of a better turn) to counter the faith in the Dragons. I think he doesn't believe in 60% of what his Heralds are saying. I like his line "I wore a mask just to unmask them".
Btw, if you noticed, Sandro changes during HO. He starts as "green" (as he was in SoD), then becomes "purple". And his behavior changes slightly. I think the Void started to slowly consume him.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 10:36 PM |
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what if Zakera is actually Sandro in disguise? 
(Honestly though, that similarity is so awkward)
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 13, 2015 10:52 PM |
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Ubi just likes recycling artwork. You'd be surprised how often that happens. Or not 
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 13, 2015 10:55 PM |
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It's Sandro. he should be pragmatic enough to try and succeed in pulling that off.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 13, 2015 11:25 PM |
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Elvin said:
Ubi just likes recycling artwork. You'd be surprised how often that happens. Or not
More than that, their artists like to take photos from Google an turn them into portraits (remember the first portrait of Deleb?) 
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2015 12:50 AM |
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Marzhin told us that the base of Zakera's portrait was Lucretia's original one. Thats probably the reason of the recycled torso.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2015 12:52 AM |
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Lucretia's original portrait? It would be interesting to see it, actually.
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted March 14, 2015 06:43 PM |
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Sligneris said:
what if Zakera is actually Sandro in disguise?
(Honestly though, that similarity is so awkward)
To be honest, I still don't know why the MMHO team didn't just use the existing portrait of Sandro from H6.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 14, 2015 07:14 PM |
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Marzhin said:
To be honest, I still don't know why the MMHO team didn't just use the existing portrait of Sandro from H6.
Because They Feel the Need to Make Something of Their Own, of course! 
They just love inventing the wheel. Belketh got new portrait as well.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2015 09:19 PM |
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Actually, the character portraits from HO are all fresh and new, which is great, as there are lots of cool images for both units and characters - for example, They have really cool vampires:
 
They look just like H6/H7, and yet so much cooler. It's mostly thanks to both the gameplay and these portraits that even despite reusing the most a game ever did (models from H5 and H6, soundtracks from H5, CoH, H6), it still has its own distinctive feel.
Sandro400 said:
Arantir has revived long dead Stonehelm kings with seemingly no problems...
Kings, who lied in the ancient ruins of a Shantiri necropolis, which retained a lot of its magical power... it's not impossible that, similarly to the case of Chimo and Talon, some power kept their souls in their bodies.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted March 15, 2015 06:02 AM |
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Sligneris said:
Kings, who lied in the ancient ruins of a Shantiri necropolis
They lied about what?
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 15, 2015 10:18 AM |
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They lied about lying there. They were actually sitting.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 15, 2015 12:51 PM |
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You just can't trust the Shantiris.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 16, 2015 10:53 PM |
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I need clarification on something - when in Hammers of Fate Isabel-as-Biara created the Red Church, the Angels are said to have abandoned the Empire, after noticing that the name of Elrath is no longer called upon. At the same time, an unit called "Seraph", the blood-stained angel is still under Saint Isabel's command.
As part of the reforms of Gwendolyn Falcon, Seraphs from Heroes 6 and Heroes 7 answer exclusively to the imperial crown - does it mean that while the "purebred" Angels left the Empire, it's those Seraph that remained? Still, under these circumstances, it makes Freyda's complaints about not having Angels under her sound weird - it still should be possible to send reinforcements those to Freyda, shouldn't it?
That is... unless Biara wanted to mess with the minds of these Seraphs and it was simply that preparing them to reflect the Empire she wanted took her longer than it did for Human troops? That's one explanation, I guess...
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 16, 2015 11:18 PM |
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Angels left the Empire because they probably realised there was something wrong with Isabel, just like they left when she struck a deal with Markal. The Red Church, all those Demon attacks, maybe they got suspicious but were lacking proof to accuse Isabel. As for why Isabel haven't sent the Red Angels to Freyda... maybe she didn't want to give her very powerful troops. It's kinda dangerous to give your not-so-loyal general a good army (look at our history).
The Fallen Angels that were affiliated with the Red Queen are actually the remaining Celestials that never got rid of their hatred and desire for revenge. So, they became these Fallen Angels with blood on their hands. In a way, they are servants of Demons.
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted March 16, 2015 11:35 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
The Fallen Angels that were affiliated with the Red Queen are actually the remaining Celestials that never got rid of their hatred and desire for revenge. So, they became these Fallen Angels with blood on their hands. In a way, they are servants of Demons.
Remember that it's just my personal theory, though
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 16, 2015 11:42 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Remember that it's just my personal theory, though
Ah, yeah. There's another (it was Erwan's iirc):
It is interesting to know that the Celestials that survived the Hall of Memories are really the souls of all those who perished during the Elder Wars. They have strong desire for vengeance against a lot of people: the Faceless are number one, but also their fellow Angels maybe because they felt they were too weak or to complacent. So they would not be too happy with the way the Holy Empire evolves between 564 YSD and 969 YSD. It would be a good case for them to not become servants of the demons which the Fallen Angels are (in a way) but at least to be the right arm of the Inquisition, really harsh and cruel angels.
P.S.: both versions don't contradict each other though.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 01:37 PM |
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I wonder how would Kythra look now that the dungeon isnt a bdsm one
She was the worst offender there
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 18, 2015 03:19 PM |
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Nival threw a party with strippers dressed as dark elves when H5 went gold. Just leaving this out here
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2015 06:52 PM |
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Sligneris said:
what if Zakera is actually Sandro in disguise?
(Honestly though, that similarity is so awkward)
Speaking of awkward similarities...
I... must admit I didn't notice that until a friend of mine asked whether person on SoD's cover was Markal....
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