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MacabreHeart
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posted June 12, 2015 09:29 AM |
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properkheldar said:
MacabreHeart said:
Could someone who's got the beta say what the camera is like this time? One of the small things I didn't like about 6 was that although you could rotate the camera it would rotate back to the default position when you took your finger off the button. So is Heroes 7's camera like that or more like the one in 5.
Its more like H5, it doesnt rotate back.
Awesome, I'm looking forward to this game even more now.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 09:48 AM |
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Steyn said:
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(AdventureMap) Most neutral creatures on the adventure map are severely under-powered
Were they? I'm playing on hard and while the cores are still doable (though I need to slow those >300 doggies to evade losses), 300 justicars whipe the floor with my army of a month. And what is worse: they grow faster than my army. In one week they went from <49 to 60, for 5 stacks. That is a total growth of over 50 justicars in one week! The other elites are comparable, with 2, 3 or more stacks of horde or throng elites. Please tell me how that is severely under-powered 
There are options to adjust before the game in the difficulty menu. Some of them deal specifically with this.. I have once put it on hard and got wiped by pretty much every neutral stack on the map 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 12, 2015 02:16 PM |
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Hermes said:
I have once put it on hard and got wiped by pretty much every neutral stack on the map
Well, in the L map for example you better have your whole main area cleaned up within first week (or almost), and have at least Justicars built before start of week two, assure yourself to take gold into the chests as well, and be careful with your hero chainings in order to do the maximum battles (gain XP from there, gather gold and resources and artis) as well as explore the map as much as possible. Use fodders in battles, the AI is completely retarded.
Ps. The random skills system really don't feel that much random at all IMO, thanks to its restrictions. As TD and some others said, the whole issue with this skill system is that random was not taken into consideration -or at least not properly- during its design and concept. And as even more people said, the seven schools of magic really are a hindrance to it.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 02:34 PM |
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Hermes said:
Steyn said:
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(AdventureMap) Most neutral creatures on the adventure map are severely under-powered
Were they? I'm playing on hard and while the cores are still doable (though I need to slow those >300 doggies to evade losses), 300 justicars whipe the floor with my army of a month. And what is worse: they grow faster than my army. In one week they went from <49 to 60, for 5 stacks. That is a total growth of over 50 justicars in one week! The other elites are comparable, with 2, 3 or more stacks of horde or throng elites. Please tell me how that is severely under-powered
There are options to adjust before the game in the difficulty menu. Some of them deal specifically with this.. I have once put it on hard and got wiped by pretty much every neutral stack on the map
You guys must be joking. But then again it's Haven, which has significantly lower creeping power than Academy. I'm on the L map with Horde settings on starting armies and I'm killing everything in my sight. It's not even funny. Lots (20-49) of range Elites like Disciples and Inquisitors posses no challenge. I actually skilled my hero in Explorer just to creep faster. It's THAT ridiculous.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 12, 2015 02:53 PM |
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That's standard heroes play, you cannot power creep without logistics.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 03:05 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 15:06, 12 Jun 2015.
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I was emphasizing that I'm not building my hero skills to give me an advantage in battle, because the starting armies of 2-3 heroes combined are more than enough to kill Horde level Elites.
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The Young Traveler
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 12, 2015 03:39 PM |
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Sure, that much is obvious. Perhaps they should reduce the army of the third hired hero to 1 tier 1 unit like in the past, it is easy enough to creep as it is. Even with 2 heroes.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 12, 2015 03:43 PM |
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Perhaps? 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 03:50 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 15:53, 12 Jun 2015.
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No, the starting armies are fine. The problem here is the AI. Range creatures target Golem > Gargoyle > Cabir last, which is stupid as you would start with the squishiest immediate threat and not with the most tanky core that takes 3 turns to get to you. Melee ones get practically glued to the first creature that gets near. So AI prioritization is completely inept.
Another thing is the fact that you can repair indefinitely. That's absolutely retarded and also reminiscent of the healingfest of Heroes 6.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 12, 2015 03:53 PM |
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That's how it was in H5 vanilla. Wonder why it was patched to 1 repair per combat 
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 08:20 PM |
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I think the unlimited repairs was pretty OP for early game.
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Over himself, over his own
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted June 12, 2015 09:33 PM |
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It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out...
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted June 12, 2015 09:39 PM |
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xerox said:
I think the unlimited repairs was pretty OP for early game.
Don't forget the Disciple's unlimited Nova, even twice during the same turn in case of good morale.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 09:45 PM |
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Is maximum mana independent of skills? Spirit only seems to influence the regeneration rate...
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 10:19 PM |
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted June 12, 2015 11:09 PM |
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No, on 30 with an Alchemist.
I think renewal just gave my player 2 hero mana after player 1 won a battle
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 13, 2015 03:11 AM |
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Seeing as Ubi-Nox e-mailed me a beta key(while I already had one) I will share it here in case somebody wants it
Uplay key: PA9C-NP44-DY87-7AK3
Key to enter directly on Uplay launcher, no need to go through the website beta page.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted June 13, 2015 10:28 AM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 10:29, 13 Jun 2015.
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TD said:
Seeing as Ubi-Nox e-mailed me a beta key(while I already had one) I will share it here in case somebody wants it
Uplay key: PA9C-NP44-DY87-7AK3
Key to enter directly on Uplay launcher, no need to go through the website beta page.
IT'S MINE! I LICKED IT 
taken 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 13, 2015 01:11 PM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 13, 2015 01:12 PM |
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GOT IT!
Just kidding.
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