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kiryu133
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posted September 11, 2015 11:42 AM

Neraus said:

Valkyries on the other hand can fit the town, they are female aren't they?

And besides, according to Tolkien dwarven women have beards, so you could theoretically have bearded dwarves and still have them female.


Valkyries gender is a pretty central part of their being (women warriors under Odens command bringing worthy soldiers to him) so they pretty much have to. That and they'd overlap way too much with angels if they weren't but follow the curent design. I'd like them riding flying, aurora horses

I'd love to see bearded, female rune priests! That'd be pretty great. I also expect the Fire dragon to not be part of the line-up, partly because we've clearly moved away from dragon champs, partly because Valkyrie champ would be one of the few offensive, fast and flying champs. We really only have the Simurgh so far and that one is more of a magic support unit than a fighter.

I'm kinda torn about it since I really liked the H5 fire dragon. Maybe as a neutral? It's where the gold dragon ended up...
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Articun
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posted September 11, 2015 11:55 AM

I had really forgotten about the Abbots

Suits me right for thinking humans boring and insignificant...

I don't want to see the Valkyries as champions, not really. And while i also don't like the Dragons of might and magic idea, i can't seem to find something else for champion of Dwarves in Ashan.

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posted September 11, 2015 12:10 PM

Articun said:
I had really forgotten about the Abbots

Suits me right for thinking humans boring and insignificant...

I don't want to see the Valkyries as champions, not really. And while i also don't like the Dragons of might and magic idea, i can't seem to find something else for champion of Dwarves in Ashan.


Dragon golems? Or something based as giant constructs?

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posted September 11, 2015 12:15 PM
Edited by Pawek_13 at 12:19, 11 Sep 2015.

kiryu133 said:

I'd love to see bearded, female rune priests! That'd be pretty great. I also expect the Fire dragon to not be part of the line-up, partly because we've clearly moved away from dragon champs, partly because Valkyrie champ would be one of the few offensive, fast and flying champs. We really only have the Simurgh so far and that one is more of a magic support unit than a fighter.

Bearded women. Maybe not...? I have nothing against small, sturdy, female Rune Priests but leave them without beards, okay?

Speaking of swift and agile champions, why not make Thanes such a unit? In Heroes V they had huge speed, very good initiative and were able to teleport. I root for comeback of Thanes and Fire Dragons, as I liked both units and can't imagine Ashan dwarven faction without them.

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Articun
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posted September 11, 2015 12:41 PM

EnergyZ said:
Articun said:
I had really forgotten about the Abbots

Suits me right for thinking humans boring and insignificant...

I don't want to see the Valkyries as champions, not really. And while i also don't like the Dragons of might and magic idea, i can't seem to find something else for champion of Dwarves in Ashan.


Dragon golems? Or something based as giant constructs?


For one, i think that constructs in general are an Academy trademark, and two, i think we already have enough constructs. 3 in academy, 1 in dungeon, 2 neutrals. Also in Duel of champions Dragon golems are an Academy unit

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EnergyZ
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posted September 11, 2015 01:06 PM

Articun said:
EnergyZ said:
Articun said:
I had really forgotten about the Abbots

Suits me right for thinking humans boring and insignificant...

I don't want to see the Valkyries as champions, not really. And while i also don't like the Dragons of might and magic idea, i can't seem to find something else for champion of Dwarves in Ashan.


Dragon golems? Or something based as giant constructs?


For one, i think that constructs in general are an Academy trademark, and two, i think we already have enough constructs. 3 in academy, 1 in dungeon, 2 neutrals. Also in Duel of champions Dragon golems are an Academy unit


Ah, but you wanted some technology in dwarves' faction. Besides, you can have something entirely different, like a crystal bot or, considering H7's resources, dragonsteel bot. Not necessarily a golem (humanoid).

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Articun
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posted September 11, 2015 01:17 PM

It's not "I wanted" , not really, but more "if they should have" something akin a machine of sorts. I think that the shantiri golem or a reskin of it could work also, as well as an obsidian golem or construct of sorts yeah. It could prove to be an interesting idea, should they make it right.

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GenyaArikado
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posted September 11, 2015 01:43 PM

the dwarven article tells that dwarven women being bearded its fiction. So no

probably a female crossbowoman on core and a valkyrie on elite.

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Elvin
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posted September 11, 2015 01:45 PM

Striders were supposed to be interesting too.. I'll pass.
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Neraus
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posted September 11, 2015 01:51 PM

GenyaArikado said:
the dwarven article tells that dwarven women being bearded its fiction. So no

probably a female crossbowoman on core and a valkyrie on elite.


It was a joke considering that middle earth Dwarf women have beards, I actually didn't think they would give them beards in Heroes.
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Articun
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posted September 11, 2015 02:02 PM

GenyaArikado said:
the dwarven article tells that dwarven women being bearded its fiction. So no

probably a female crossbowoman on core and a valkyrie on elite.


No, please no... no more crossbows, archers and bows with the same abilities but different model. I would prefer it if the rider on the bear was a female dwarf. Though i'd prefer if the bear was without Rider and enhanced with runes and armor to become an elite.

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posted September 11, 2015 02:34 PM

Articun said:
No, please no... no more crossbows, archers and bows with the same abilities but different model. I would prefer it if the rider on the bear was a female dwarf. Though i'd prefer if the bear was without Rider and enhanced with runes and armor to become an elite.

NO. No Narnia!!!
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GenyaArikado
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posted September 11, 2015 02:35 PM

Neraus said:
GenyaArikado said:
the dwarven article tells that dwarven women being bearded its fiction. So no

probably a female crossbowoman on core and a valkyrie on elite.


It was a joke considering that middle earth Dwarf women have beards, I actually didn't think they would give them beards in Heroes.


I know but apparently the sjw didnt.

Articun said:


No, please no... no more crossbows, archers and bows with the same abilities but different model. I would prefer it if the rider on the bear was a female dwarf. Though i'd prefer if the bear was without Rider and enhanced with runes and armor to become an elite.


It's the price to pay for a setting with more or less equal technological prowess i guess. But yeah the article says they're into crossbows and ballistas rather than bows. Although i guess we could still get a javalin thrower or an axe thrower.

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Neraus
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posted September 11, 2015 02:54 PM

Dwarves are master smiths, giving them crossbows would be more fitting than bowmen, javelineers or axe throwers, I think.

Seriously, what's to hate in dwarves carrying ballistas? It's freaking epic, now I want... Dwarven ballistaires? How do you call that?
Point is, crossbowmen with giant crossbows, I now want dwarves having the best core archer of all factions.

Combine that with Bear Cavalry and Giants and you have the faction that completely breaks the record in coolness...
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The_green_drag
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posted September 11, 2015 03:31 PM

I'd really like a battle boar in the elite spot if I had to only pick one I loved them in age of mythology.

I like paweks idea about fire giants being teleporters with no retaliation, kinda like a return of the arch Devils. It would only be cool if they could teleport anywhere though. But this way we can keep magmazilla the way he is.

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GenyaArikado
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posted September 11, 2015 04:47 PM

Dave_Jame said:
NO. No Narnia!!!


i think you're actually refering to "The Golden Compass"

The_green_drag said:
I'd really like a battle boar in the elite spot if I had to only pick one I loved them in age of mythology.



same

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Marzhin
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posted September 11, 2015 06:51 PM

One thing is sure: Ashan Dwarves are not steampunk / tinker Dwarves like in Warhammer or WarCraft, so they wouldn't have steam tanks or flying machines.
I think there is room for a tech/steampunk faction in Ashan in the form of a reimagined Forge faction in the post-Dark Messiah era, but that's another debate

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kiryu133
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posted September 11, 2015 08:16 PM

Marzhin said:
One thing is sure: Ashan Dwarves are not steampunk / tinker Dwarves like in Warhammer or WarCraft, so they wouldn't have steam tanks or flying machines.
I think there is room for a tech/steampunk faction in Ashan in the form of a reimagined Forge faction in the post-Dark Messiah era, but that's another debate


Ok, now you're just teasing

I want my steam-tanks, dammit!
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Gryphs
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posted September 11, 2015 08:42 PM

Marzhin said:
I think there is room for a tech/steampunk faction in Ashan in the form of a reimagined Forge faction in the post-Dark Messiah era, but that's another debate
As long as it is steampunk, no lasers please.
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Articun
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posted September 11, 2015 08:48 PM

Marzhin said:
One thing is sure: Ashan Dwarves are not steampunk / tinker Dwarves like in Warhammer or WarCraft, so they wouldn't have steam tanks or flying machines.
I think there is room for a tech/steampunk faction in Ashan in the form of a reimagined Forge faction in the post-Dark Messiah era, but that's another debate


If you got ideas i will gladly help you with that. Though i must ask, on what race such a faction will be based.

Also Marzhin your teasinh and your comment assures me you know more than what you let us believe. Therr have been ideas for fortreas lineups havent there??

At least do tell if ice is involved in fortress

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