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Elodin
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posted November 14, 2015 01:16 AM |
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Edited by Elodin at 01:18, 14 Nov 2015.
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I am watching FOX news channel. They are rebroadcasting SKY news. Now reports of 100 or so dead in the concert hall.
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Galaad
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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 14, 2015 01:17 AM |
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Unfortunately only available in french but that's an interesting analysis:
https://www.les-crises.fr/maxime-chaix-la-guerre-secrete-multinationale-de-la-cia-en-syrie-et-le-chaos-islamiste/
Use paralink translator, is better than google.
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artu
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posted November 14, 2015 01:20 AM |
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Guns in such cases will change nothing. Let's assume this was happening in Texas, where ninety-something percent of the civilians own guns, how many of them would carry that to a concert hall, let's say all of them did, in an organized attack where ISIS terrorists who are often trained mercenaries suddenly walk in with automatic rifles, what's anybody going to do? I can assure you nobody will try to be Bruce Willis. This is not a situation like hearing a burglar downstairs and quietly taking out your gun from the drawer in order to protect yourself.
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Salamandre
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posted November 14, 2015 01:23 AM |
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Drakon-Deus
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posted November 14, 2015 01:26 AM |
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Equally bad with what happened in here, only less dead in our case. And I don't care who does it, if people die because of carelessness, conspiracy or aggression, the ones guilty must pay.
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Stevie
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posted November 14, 2015 01:27 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 01:34, 14 Nov 2015.
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fred79
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posted November 14, 2015 01:29 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 01:32, 14 Nov 2015.
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artu said:
Guns in such cases will change nothing. Let's assume this was happening in Texas, where ninety-something percent of the civilians own guns, how many of them would carry that to a concert hall, let's say all of them did, in an organized attack where ISIS terrorists who are often trained mercenaries suddenly walk in with automatic rifles, what's anybody going to do? I can assure you nobody will try to be Bruce Willis. This is not a situation like hearing a burglar downstairs and quietly taking out your gun from the drawer in order to protect yourself.
i firmly disagree, but only because i am a military-minded person. i don't think everyone who carries guns are trained(or train themselves) properly to handle a situation like that.
but it's fairly simple. get behind cover; if none, get flat, behind bodies if you have to, and return fire. it really doesn't matter what any gunman is firing; bullets are bullets, and all calibers kill. know what your weapon is capable of, and know how to use your environment to your advantage.
the trouble with the ak round(7.62mm), is that it tends to even go through brick and cinderblock. there's a reason that the ak is so widespread; it's because it does a ton of damage. one hit can kill, easily; because the round is large, and the round tumbles(meaning it'll do more damage upon impact, especially with soft flesh).
but that doesn't mean that someone carrying at least a .380, can't fill the gunman full of lead as well. besides, if those ak's are automatic, they would be switching mags more often than if they were single-fire, which leaves you more openings to hit your target.
edit: unless, of course, if they are covering one another as they switch mags. then you don't have much chance, but you can still take a gunman down with you, first.
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Salamandre
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posted November 14, 2015 01:32 AM |
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We get only what we deserve. After Charlie Hebdo attacks, Holland claimed the Nation is Great and we will not be afraid. But he did nothing against ISIS.
Today he says Nations is Great again and we will not be afraid. Same pattern, same empty of sense words. And tomorrow he will do nothing, neither the day after and so on.
While France has the tools to RAZE entire regions, but won't do it. This is how it looks a dying nation, the terrorists only speed the process. A nation being great means ALSO the capacity and motivation to retaliate hard and hurt exactly where it REALLY hurts. Our greatness has been reduced to empty slogans.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted November 14, 2015 01:37 AM |
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Yes and some wonder just why did most of Europe become like this? Is it just the years after the end of Cold War that also brought inherrent corruption that spread along with the lack of incentive for having great military forces ?
IF anyone attacks here, no one will come to help. I am sure.
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Elodin
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posted November 14, 2015 01:39 AM |
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Edited by Elodin at 01:40, 14 Nov 2015.
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Stevie said:
Yet no accounts on a terrorist being captured and claiming isis allegiance. I only hear two terrorists dead.
Three terrorists now reported dead in the hall. FOX reported French authorities say they captured a terrorist who claims 2 others came with him from Syria on a mission from ISIS.
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fred79
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posted November 14, 2015 01:42 AM |
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from what i've read online, isis are applauding the attacks on twitter, but not claiming responsibility; at least yet.
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Elodin
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posted November 14, 2015 01:44 AM |
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1500 troops are setting up check points throughout Paris. Cerfew is in effect. If the State of emergency is not in effect it is about to be.
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Galaad
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posted November 14, 2015 01:45 AM |
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Obama made his speech before Hollande, lol.
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posted November 14, 2015 01:53 AM |
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Salamandre said:
There is one thing there which is very important to underline: no country needs minorities, but minorities need that country. This is exactly the reason I immigrated, I needed the France.
That is why everyone goes West from here, so do not feel bad. But many who go there have no desire to adapt and be cultured, unlike others like you.
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Stevie
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posted November 14, 2015 01:55 AM |
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fred79
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posted November 14, 2015 02:02 AM |
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Stevie said:
Really, who is the enemy?
depends on who you ask. there isn't a general consensus, these days. in the states, "enemies" changed by the decade. across the world? who knows, man. 
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posted November 14, 2015 02:10 AM |
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fred79 said:
Stevie said:
Really, who is the enemy?
depends on who you ask. there isn't a general consensus, these days. in the states, "enemies" changed by the decade. across the world? who knows, man.
Anyone who thinks we all should serve them or be like them in every way is an enemy. For me.
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Elodin
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posted November 14, 2015 02:56 AM |
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Quote:
.@ShepNewsTeam: "French authorities have just sent out a bulletin that a number of armed terrorists are one the loose somewhere." #Paris
Only 5 or 6 terrorists confirmed dead. 6 locations attacked. So yeah.
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posted November 14, 2015 03:42 AM |
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And there's also the matter of other terrorist factions having an open ground to do their bidding under the name of ISIS, even if they are of a completely different background, whichever the culprits are for yesterday's crimes.
I think some hard times are coming, from within and without.
You all in Europe, stay sharp. And my best wishes go for your safety.
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posted November 14, 2015 04:58 AM |
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Edited by Kayna at 04:59, 14 Nov 2015.
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With targets such as these, I think those ISIS people just wants to bring chaos to western countries because we don't have chaos over here ( usually ) while they do. They are aware of our proxy and economic domination. A more strategic option would be to assault cops and military people rather than normal civilians. Attacking purely civilians like that will only blow back in their faces later on because it will spark a real willingness to act. France is still the no 8 military ( or something ) in the world. It's even worse than collateral damage.
My guess is that they are tired of waging losing battles against better equipped people all the time and now they're engaging in skirmish against unarmed people. It's a normal consequence of fighting these people with air strikes and such.They would probably prefer fight American soldiers on equal footing.
Anyways. I'm not trying to defend them, just understand the mentality of these attackers. The world would be better off without these Muslim extremists.
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