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Thread: Since H7 is bust..
Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted September 02, 2016 06:19 PM
Edited by Elvin at 20:05, 04 Sep 2016.

Since H7 is bust..

.. Who's in on some H5 duel map games?

Each game has a brief preparation period(level up in sphinx, pick artifacts, learn spells) and then onwards to the battlefield area. Like magnomagus, I have heavily modified the game:

- Rebalanced units, spells, skills.
- Skill requirements simplified to give greater freedom in picking your skills.
- Extreme luck/morale effects, unit wide damage ranges and other overkill effects toned down in favour of more interesting and varied games.
- Spellpower now improves all spells!

Here is the latest version:

Duel Map W5 Random



Q&A!

But I don't even remember the game!

With all those changes, it's a different game anyway

Isn't memorizing skill requirements a pain?

Not here, each skill shows what it unlocks in the description.

What if I feel rusty or that I will embarrass myself?

Who cares, heroes is a casual game to be enjoyed between friends!

Okay, how do we play?

Just install gameranger and the rest is easy

What game version does it require?

Just tote 3.1. If you have H5.5 you can still play by installing tote on a separate director, works like a charm.

Where would I share feedback about the map?

Here, looking forward to it.



I know that the time of H5 is long past but right now it is the only recent game that can offer this kind of experience I know most of you will give it a pass but those who are interested, you can expect some good fun.

Poly, galaad, jaba and stevie can vouch for it
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SoilBurn
SoilBurn


Known Hero
BurnsSoil
posted September 02, 2016 06:33 PM

I don't have time to join due to work, but it sounds like something I would love to try out.

The balance changes look very reasonable, too. Why did you have to make Ghost large and Lich small, that was a bit random

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 02, 2016 06:39 PM

No Windows anymore so a bit screwed for multi but yeah it was sweet to play you Elvin!
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
What if Elvin was female?
posted September 02, 2016 06:42 PM
Edited by Elvin at 18:42, 02 Sep 2016.

I have long since reverted the ghosts and liches. It didn't come out of nowhere, liches have always been small units in homm but that doesn't work so well in H5. Necro is enough of a turtle faction as it is

*Salutes Galaad*
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SoilBurn
SoilBurn


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BurnsSoil
posted September 02, 2016 11:34 PM

Elvin said:
I have long since reverted the ghosts and liches. It didn't come out of nowhere, liches have always been small units in homm but that doesn't work so well in H5. Necro is enough of a turtle faction as it is
I doubt it would work with the H5 model, those robes they are carrying around are massive compared to the rest of the body. Also the are Wraiths are large, so you would have 2 Ghost units (3 if you count the Spectral Dragon) as large creatures then, all in different tiers. I am generally in favor of stronger units also being bigger in some way, so I think the Lich's and Ghost's sizes fit as they were originally.

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 03, 2016 09:57 AM

Actually the lich looked wonderful as a small unit. It was slightly scaled down so it fit the tile perfectly.
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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
posted September 03, 2016 12:44 PM

I must say that I'm interested in this, but I must also add that I suck at H5 multiplayer
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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 03, 2016 01:07 PM
Edited by Elvin at 13:08, 03 Sep 2016.

When I started the duels some years back I wanted to see people come out of their shells - I know I was shy about playing online! This has nothing to do with rankings, rewards or how good anyone is.

I just want to bring back a number of elements that have been lost in the passage of time, just for the fun of it. Things like..

- An actually good skill system where basic abilities unlock the corresponding advanced abilities and there are skill combos as well as counters.

- The return of the arguably interesting dynamic initiative system. With some tweaks in mass spells, luck, morale and unit initiative the system works much better now.

- Exciting, unpredictable combat! All it takes is rebalance the underpowered abilities/combos and you have more options to choose from.

- No banned skills! (Except leadership for necro ^^)


Even as an experiment, it is interesting to see how this version compares to the current H7 gameplay.
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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
posted September 03, 2016 01:13 PM

Well, I will try this out, as I'll have some time for games next week
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adriancat
adriancat


Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
posted September 03, 2016 07:55 PM

I'm in! PM me if you want to play. Let's hope that more people will join

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Pitlord
Pitlord


Known Hero
posted September 04, 2016 01:47 PM

funny, i found my ToE cd few days ago. but i aready have the 5.5 version installed. i will check it out how to get 3.1 the easiest way

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 04, 2016 01:54 PM

Just install tote in a different directory than the one you have for H5.5. That's what I did.
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Raenus
Raenus


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Grouchy curmudgeon
posted September 04, 2016 05:33 PM

I can attest to how well put together and enjoyable the matches are, I played a few and will again in the future when things calm down, if anyone is on the fence I highly recommend that you give it a shot. Also the people playing it are great, friendly and welcoming no matter how inexperienced you are.

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 04, 2016 08:04 PM
Edited by Elvin at 20:05, 04 Sep 2016.

Thank you raenus, hope to see you around

Meanwhile I edited ability names so as to be more descriptive when browsing the hiring screen.
For instance..

Agility will now show as Agility (+1 def/tile)
Torpor will show as Torpor (1 turn), due to the reduced duration
Aura of Bravery will show as Aura of Bravery +2

Etc.



Duel Map W5 Random

Latest version, a bit different from the link in the original topic. Basically week 5 armies, lvl 19 heroes and multiple choice artifacts. There is enough gold to buy all your army plus 17k for mentor and warmachines. Some ability changes here and there, all with updated descriptions.
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