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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 29, 2019 07:22 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 19:28, 29 Oct 2019.

And... it is complete!



Sword of Frost... well, what can I say?

1. Mostly a huge disappointment. It was the easiest Chronicles game they released, or maybe 2nd easiest to Masters of the Elements, and even though I did enjoy the story a bit, it could've been so much more...

For instance, we see Tarnum enjoying being a tyrant again, or "almost enjoying"... in a single event. It's never mentioned again. Why?

2. The final mission provides only a few events as the map is tiny. Were they on the verge of bankrupcy by then? it certainly feels lame.

3. Nearly no Gelu-Tarnum interaction. And since I got Orb of Inhibition from a warrior's crypt right after I started the final mission, Gelu couldn't even armageddon me.

4. EASY. Oh God, it was sooo easy. "Impossible" felt more like "Very Easy". I don't even know where to start - giving you Azure Dragon freebies each mission? You know, you may pretty much tick "Quick Combat" and never let go...  Town portal happens in 2nd mission already, and it's just a curbstomp. The AI is outmatched, sometimes gets 1-2 Crystal Dragon freebies and that's it... level 1 heroes with regular armies.. against 60 ATT Tarnum with Azures. Great missionmaking skills, 3DO... sigh

5. It was the last Chronicles game, so I kinda expected an outro. A proper one. Not rehashed Armageddon's blade mission screen with a very short and uninspiried final entry. They could do an intro in Warlords of the Wastelands, but they couldn't do an outro for Sword of Frost, sigh.

Again 3.5/10 at best.

This concludes the 3-year old journey with Heroes Chronicles. It was mostly fun, but often disappointing. Expect a big thread about whole HoMM3 playthrough, since it was merely a part of it.

It was still worth it, anyway, but I guess the whole series could be considered a cash-grab in the end, for people who bought those games when they were released.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 30, 2019 07:25 AM

You are too good for your own good But yeah, the chronicles difficulty fluctuates so much between pushover and actually hard. In the first mission where you face Gelu I defeated him on day 2 lol. What was that even about ^^

I did not mind the lack of interaction with Gelu, he never was the most talkative or multidimensional guy. I liked the discussions with Ufretin and the backstabbing dungeon fun times.

The ending was such a pile of pegasi manure. I was also hoping we'd get an awesome sword of frost artifact but I guess it's too silly to expect that from a game titled the sword of frost. Well, onwards to the next goal!



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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 30, 2019 01:48 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 13:48, 30 Oct 2019.

The "Beholder advisors" were definitively the high point of the campaign. Fun, not nearly as awesome as the Barbarian Familiar on a pony, but pretty cool.

It feels as if nobody playtested this before.

Also, like we discussed earlier, there's one last thing to add: after all those games and hours spent on Tarnum storyline, your ending is a poorly voiceacted KIJA!!!!!. Yeah, that's it. They should make a t-shirt out of that. If this game was released in modern times, it would become a meme instantly.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted October 30, 2019 01:57 PM

Doomforge said:
after all those games and hours spent on Tarnum storyline, your ending is a poorly voiceacted KIJA!!!!!. Yeah, that's it. They should make a t-shirt out of that. If this game was released in modern times, it would become a meme instantly.



So true.
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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

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posted November 29, 2020 06:58 PM

I have a hard time with Chronicles campaigns.

I am playing Chronicles now. Warlords of the Wasteland was sometimes easy and sometimes hard but I feel as it is mostly depends on what you get as skills. Now I am not a expert at Homm 3 so I need some help from time to time. Warlords of the Wasteland's last mission was more difficult compared to the other maps because I was lacking in some important skills.

How do I get better at this game? Just play it or can I get some tips? When I read your post where you say it is easy. I am not seeing it hehe

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
posted November 29, 2020 07:17 PM

Well in mission 5 and mission 6 there is chance to get both wisdom and earth magic. Mission 8 is not difficult, if you manage to hold tower and castle towns in middle part of map. Plus I recommend only using Angels and Titans on Tarnum, while rest troops are good to defend towns and scare of ai heroes. I found that 2 years ago, that on level 16 pop up for Tarnum Earth Magic. What i used for Tarnum:

Off, Archery, Armorer, Logistics, Pathfinding, Tactics/Ballistics, Wisdom and Earth. I recommend using secondary heroes like Dessa, Gundula and Gurnisson until Tarnum learn Wisdom + Earth. if you someway battle mage learn scholar, Tarnum will be able to learn level 4 spells from them.
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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted November 30, 2020 04:02 PM

jonapaloma said:
I am playing Chronicles now. Warlords of the Wasteland was sometimes easy and sometimes hard but I feel as it is mostly depends on what you get as skills. Now I am not a expert at Homm 3 so I need some help from time to time. Warlords of the Wasteland's last mission was more difficult compared to the other maps because I was lacking in some important skills.

How do I get better at this game? Just play it or can I get some tips? When I read your post where you say it is easy. I am not seeing it hehe


I highly recommend watching YouTube to get better at the game. Watch some singleplayer playthroughs by AbsoluteZero. He's a very good player and provides good commentary along with it. At the top of all this I believe he recently played through some of the Chronicles as well.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgT_HmP4nlz5wECKOkIlj9Q

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jonapaloma
jonapaloma

Tavern Dweller
posted November 30, 2020 09:16 PM

pellish said:
jonapaloma said:
I am playing Chronicles now. Warlords of the Wasteland was sometimes easy and sometimes hard but I feel as it is mostly depends on what you get as skills. Now I am not a expert at Homm 3 so I need some help from time to time. Warlords of the Wasteland's last mission was more difficult compared to the other maps because I was lacking in some important skills.

How do I get better at this game? Just play it or can I get some tips? When I read your post where you say it is easy. I am not seeing it hehe


I highly recommend watching YouTube to get better at the game. Watch some singleplayer playthroughs by AbsoluteZero. He's a very good player and provides good commentary along with it. At the top of all this I believe he recently played through some of the Chronicles as well.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgT_HmP4nlz5wECKOkIlj9Q


Thanx I will check it out. I watched Theknownworld and Meridian aswell and learned alot. But sometimes I struggle with what to do at certain times. Whether I should go for gold or creature dwellings or build up my army or attack other towns fast. Of course I dont know all kinds of tactics there is.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted December 01, 2020 09:12 AM

This may be an unpopular opinion, but watching and copying other people will never make you a truly good player.

You need to be able to reach those conclusions yourself.

There are games where this doesn't apply though (mostly fighting games, since they are built around frame data and there is 0 need for a player to analyze that by himself).

Strategy games tho? Uhhh.

I strongly advocate to just learn as you play.

It does come in handy in real life since it trains you in problem solving.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
posted November 28, 2022 09:03 AM
Edited by Drakon-Deus at 09:05, 28 Nov 2022.

Conquest of the Underworld and Masters of the Elements are my personal faves to play. Warlords of the Wasteland had the best story though.

Clash of the Dragons and Revolt of the Beastmasters are okay, The Sword of Frost and World Tree+Fiery Moon I didn't like that much
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Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted January 01, 2023 11:44 PM

Is there a way to find unique concept arts from Heroes Chronicles? Here I am thinking of not only about his face, but about other things as well.

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 02, 2023 10:30 AM

Theres not a lot of concept art. We have some sketches by Almond but its the same like in game. Second is only alternative beastmaster screen.

And Adam McCarthy site Tarnum model.


Other these portraits.

Next loading screens.

And original chronicles site:
Chronicles site

That's all.
We used a lot in new Chronicles HDmod full version:
Chronicles mod

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Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted January 02, 2023 05:31 PM
Edited by Reval95 at 17:36, 02 Jan 2023.

Unfortunately, I've already seen these, but thank you very much for your help. I tried to dig deep, but I couldn't find much. Perhaps my only interesting catch this.

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 02, 2023 07:29 PM

Oh yes! Nice. But unfortunetly its only clean main screen. Chronicles was a small cost low budget realisation. So has small unused concepts. You can look at movies too using Radvideotool. You can make screens from each frame. And some content from ingame resources. HCH has very good graphic art. Not a lot but very clinmatic. But the best is storyline! Real epic masterpieces!

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Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted January 02, 2023 08:54 PM

I agree, that's why I tried to search. I didn't find many results either, but I'm not giving up. I will try this Rad video tools, what you write about it is interesting. I agree, the story is fascinating, Tarnum is a fantastic character. This is the last menu screen I could find and is the artist's work without the subtitle.

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Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted January 29, 2023 01:30 PM

Well, I didn't give up and managed to make some (maybe) new more image. I don't think we ever seen these pictures without the caption and menu icons. Before anyone asks how I did it, I used this. https://hotpot.ai/remove-object?s=footer-gallery

The images:

Heroes Chronicles: Masters of the Elements menu without the title.

Mad King Gryphonheart from Heroes Chronicles: Revolt of the Beastmasters level select menu.

Heroes Chronicles: The Fiery Moon menu without the title.

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baronus
baronus


Legendary Hero
posted January 31, 2023 05:04 PM

Absolutly fantastic worki! Go ahead! You surprised me! I  tried it manually years ago! Now its AI work!
Open new topic using your post! Its so good and it must be separate forum chapter to not lost it main topic post stream! Im very nteresting it!

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Reval95
Reval95


Hired Hero
posted February 04, 2023 07:25 PM

Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you liked it so much and that I surprised you. I like the idea you gave me and it is ready.
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=47720

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