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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Is there a future for Heroes?
Thread: Is there a future for Heroes? This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted October 08, 2018 09:09 PM

ah-ha! I see what you mean. Yes, it counts

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rafter
rafter

Tavern Dweller
posted October 09, 2018 04:31 AM
Edited by rafter at 08:55, 19 Oct 2018.

The game developers may just take Heroes 3 and REMOVE the turns and days( endless turn). In stead of days, the game Developers may put Hours and seconds( endless turn). But the game will need to be added some spells. The heroes need to may learn spells that use only creatures- Petrify, Paralyze. So Petrify and Paralyze must be added to the spell book of a hero. Also, the hero must have option to use either Mass spell( Mass haste, mass dispel), or single spell( dispel). I rarely take the skill Water magic, because in the original Heroes 3, a hero with expert Water magic may cast only Mass Dispell and that remove all bonuses of all creatures.At Heroes 2, the player may chose between Mass dispel and dispel.
Also, it will be good if the game not need buying New PC and New OS Windows. Because, even if you sell a game for 20 Euro, the price to play the New game will be about 1000 Euro. A New computer is 500-1000 Euro and a New OS Windows is 200-300 Euro. But If you make the game compatible with old OS Windows( XP) and older Computers, you may sell the game for 30 Euro and that will be the final price. A price of 30 Euro is much lower than a price 1020  Euro.
Also, the Newest computers OVERHEAT during a game ONLINE. So, the RTS game will need lower system requirements.
That Real Time strategy will become one of the greatest Online games ever. And after some time, the most popular Online game.

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JollyJoker
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posted October 09, 2018 06:37 AM

You should try Cure instead of Dispel.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 09, 2018 06:57 AM

rafter said:
The game developers may just take Heroes 3 and REMOVE the turns and days( endless turn). In stead of days, the game Developers may put Hours and seconds( endless turn).

That's called an RTS
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Galatea
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posted October 09, 2018 01:09 PM
Edited by Galatea at 13:14, 09 Oct 2018.

There is no future for Heroes! All games come to an end! I'm sorry die hard heroes fans, but that's life.
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fred79
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posted October 09, 2018 01:18 PM

Galatea said:
There is no future for Heroes! All games come to an end! I'm sorry die hard heroes fans, but that's life.


Life is a cycle.

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NimoStar
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posted October 09, 2018 04:53 PM

There is a future but a publisher needs to take a risk, disregard those who want an H3 remake and create a new heroes games with many new and interesting mechanics such as creature upkeep, faction-specific upgrades for neutrals, resource management, faction-specific magic, cretures that can't move unlimited just by heroes "ferrying" them as cargo, new skills, reworking of necromancy for balance, simultaneous turns,

lots of plauytesting, no zero-day crashes, and so on etc.
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monere
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posted October 09, 2018 04:57 PM

Quote:
reworking of necromancy for balance


I think 15% at expert level is perfect

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gemeaux333
gemeaux333


Hired Hero
posted October 09, 2018 05:01 PM

HOMM 6 have given us everything needed to update the series, too bad it have been released before XCOM Enemy Unknow 2012, things wouls have been different if the final / complete version was released in 2013 and benefit of the comeback of turn based games !

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted October 09, 2018 05:10 PM

To degrade you mean Most of what it did was streamline and simplify.
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verriker
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posted October 09, 2018 05:53 PM

gemeaux333 said:
too bad it have been released before XCOM Enemy Unknow 2012,


what does that have to do with the price of erwin in china lol
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NimoStar
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posted October 09, 2018 05:56 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 17:58, 09 Oct 2018.

Quote:
I think 15% at expert level is perfect


Not really, necromancy at h3 mode will never be balanced. See reasons here:

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=45425

Quote:
To degrade you mean Most of what it did was streamline and simplify.


Some dsay H6 was too simple for erwin-reduced towns and resources, others too complex because developer put a lot of special effects and abilities on creatures, artifacts skills and spells... make up your minds
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monere
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posted October 09, 2018 06:02 PM

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Not really, necromancy at h3 mode will never be balanced. See reasons here:

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=45425


I was addressing the percentage values, not the intricacies of the skill

Overall, you are right, but the percentage of raised creatures is good in my opinion

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JollyJoker
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posted October 09, 2018 06:25 PM

H4 style Necromancy beats H3 Necromancy by a mile. Especially in combination with the raising spells in battle.

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gemeaux333
gemeaux333


Hired Hero
posted October 09, 2018 06:57 PM

HOMM 6 have questionned some stiff mechanics from the previous HOMM games, which was more than welcome !

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Stevie
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posted October 09, 2018 06:58 PM

Necromancy should've been a combat mechanic since ages ago.
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Neraus
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posted October 09, 2018 07:31 PM
Edited by Neraus at 19:31, 09 Oct 2018.

fred79 said:
Galatea said:
There is no future for Heroes! All games come to an end! I'm sorry die hard heroes fans, but that's life.


Life is a cycle.


Life is a spiral.
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Galatea
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posted October 10, 2018 10:33 AM

Neraus said:
fred79 said:
Galatea said:
There is no future for Heroes! All games come to an end! I'm sorry die hard heroes fans, but that's life.


Life is a cycle.


Life is a spiral.


If life is a spiral then maybe there's future for Heroes in Heroes XIX.
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ninjata12
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posted October 14, 2018 04:07 PM

There is definitely a future for Heroes. It's a great franchise with so many followers. Turned based games will be forever around. Just look at what Civilization is doing. Ubi should steal some ideas from them, as well as from Age of Wonders and definitely from Total War. I think the way Total War campaign maps look and the way turns are being played there should inspire Ubi to make some changes.
The biggest problems with Heroes in the last couple of years were the bugs games and the not-so-well received experiments with spell systems, Tears and Blood, resources and so on.
But first and foremost - SO MANY BUGS. I can play both Heroes 6 and 7 and they are good games in general, but they are both unfinished.
Ubi is complaining about budget. Well, just remove the shiny 3D towns, the stupid animations and just make the game lighter. We still play Heroes 3 after so many years, because game-play and replayability is what matters, not shiny graphics. Ubi, you can even do a mix between 2D and 3D, we will be happy to play it.

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gemeaux333
gemeaux333


Hired Hero
posted October 14, 2018 04:48 PM

You forgot XCOM, this is the best example of a turn-based franchise which managed to modernize !

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