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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Best hero in Heroes 3?
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2018 10:47 AM

Poll Question:
Best hero in Heroes 3?

Based on the 9 original "Best X hero?" polls, you guys have found the candidates for the best heroes in the game.
Before voting please let me explain the rules:
* You CAN'T vote for Sir Mullich, (He should always be banned imo) any campaign heroes or any hero from HotA, WoG or any other mod.
* Some of the factions have two heroes available, that is because there was a tie in the original poll or those heroes had almost equal amount of votes.
Should a faction with let's say Crag Hack and Dessa win, I will make one final poll with Crag Hack VS Dessa to decide "The Ultimate Heroes 3 hero".
* If you don't think any of the mentioned heroes are the best, then vote "Other" and write a comment about which you think is the best then.
And remember NO Sir Mullich!

Happy voting.

Responses:
Castle: Adela or Orrin
Rampart: Kyrre
Tower: Neela
Inferno: Marius or Pyre
Necropolis: Galthran
Dungeon: Gunnar
Stronghold: Crag Hack or Dessa
Fortress: Tazar
Conflux: Luna or Monere
Other (Write in comments)
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 25, 2018 01:09 PM
Edited by Maurice at 13:09, 25 Sep 2018.

Sir Mullich, hands down.


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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2018 01:46 PM

Maurice! *RAGE*
LOL tell people what they can't do and they will do it.


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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2018 02:02 PM
Edited by monere at 14:04, 25 Sep 2018.

voted Kyrre for so many reasons...

1) I LOVE Rampart;
2) gold dragons are better than black dragons
3) rampart has better magic resistance than dungeon
4) rampart is more sturdier than dungeon
5) rampart is way cooler than dungeon
6) rampart... well, you get the idea

Besides, the main reason I have voted for Kyrre is because... well, because of the bloody specialty. Only necromancy is as gay as logistics, so...

EDIT: on a second thought, diplomacy beats all other skills, but I have already voted, so I can't pick Adela anymore

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2018 02:20 PM

Inferno have 5 good heroes:
Marius, Nymus, Pyre, Ayden, Zydar(if you aim for Fire Magic and Armageddon with Efreets)

Fortress:
Tazar, Andra, Styg, Voy(island map types)

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Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted September 25, 2018 02:37 PM

Why should Sir Mullich be banned when Logistics and offense specialized heroes are allowed? No idea why +2 speed bonus is seen as overpowered when a single artifact can already provide it.

In SoD i'd say Isra is the best hero especially in big maps. Also she starts with spell book and magic arrow. My subjective rank:

1)  Isra
2)  Gunnar
3)  Kyree
4)  Dessa
5)  Crag Hack
6)  Gundula
7)  Galthran
8)  Any barbarian
9)  Vidomina
10) Tazar
11) Mephala
12) Neela

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2018 02:47 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 14:54, 25 Sep 2018.

Otuken said:
Why should Sir Mullich be banned when Logistics and offense specialized heroes are allowed? No idea why +2 speed bonus is seen as overpowered when a single artifact can already provide it.

Sir Mullich get the bonus right from level 1, Logistics/Offense/Armorer/Intelligence/Navigation specialists at least have to work for it. Also who says Sir Mullich can't wear a cloak also?

As matter of fact I was just in battle with Elleshar with 721 spell points and a huge army and better stats than me. He keeps summoning Water Elementals until there are thousands of them and I simply can't win that battle, because he has about 3 times the spell points I do.
I guess that means Intelligence specialists are also overpowered...

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted September 25, 2018 03:13 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 15:14, 25 Sep 2018.

phoenix4ever said:
I guess that means Intelligence specialists are also overpowered...

If by overpowered you mean clearly good/better then all other magic heroes: yes, of course they are.
OTOH, they are quite situational and to make AI spent all those spellpoints summoning elementals was one way I used often to make my lesser heroes level up. I guess I don't need to say you will not have a use for them in any random maps but they can be crucial in custom maps, if you use exhaustion techniques.
So, no I don't really think they are overpowered but as I said it before your quest to remove overpowered heroes will only end when all heroes are turned to +350. This obsession some people have with all specialties being of similar values was probably what made them go for no specialty at all in Heroes IV.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 25, 2018 03:30 PM

Ignatius, who else?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2018 03:30 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 16:35, 25 Sep 2018.

bloodsucker said:
If by overpowered you mean clearly good/better then all other magic heroes: yes, of course they are.
OTOH, they are quite situational and to make AI spent all those spellpoints summoning elementals was one way I used often to make my lesser heroes level up. I guess I don't need to say you will not have a use for them in any random maps but they can be crucial in custom maps, if you use exhaustion techniques.
So, no I don't really think they are overpowered but as I said it before your quest to remove overpowered heroes will only end when all heroes are turned to +350. This obsession some people have with all specialties being of similar values was probably what made them go for no specialty at all in Heroes IV.

You could call it an obsession with specialties, but when you have heroes ranging from Piquedram or Melodia to Gunnar and Crag Hack is it really such a wonder?
I don't wanna turn all heroes the same, that would be extremely boring, but some better balance could be attained.
Unrelated to the topic, but I'm not a fan of some of Cove's might heroes either, they are already too specialised in some of their skills... (E.g. Elmore starts with Advanced Navigation, making him an extremely good scout on water maps and Leena with both Estates and +350 gold specialty, making her the hero that earns the most gold in the start of the game. I don't get why Jeremy and Miriam switched Offense and Logistics either.)

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 25, 2018 03:34 PM

Why don't you make a vote for worst heroes?

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 25, 2018 03:37 PM
Edited by Stevie at 15:38, 25 Sep 2018.

And then one for the most average heroes too.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 25, 2018 03:37 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 15:38, 25 Sep 2018.

@JollyJoker
There are too many of them.
Heroes with Learning, Eagle Eye, First Aid, Mysticism, Ballistics, Straker, Piquedram, Ufretin, Melodia, Inteus etc. etc. etc.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 25, 2018 07:29 PM

Ah, come on, Straker is great. I even made a map around him!

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Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted September 25, 2018 07:40 PM

Still I don't think sir mullich should be banned.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 25, 2018 08:36 PM

JollyJoker said:
Ignatius, who else?


Sandro?

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted September 26, 2018 01:13 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 01:21, 26 Sep 2018.

phoenix4ever said:
I don't get why Jeremy and Miriam switched Offense and Logistics either.)

But you have to admit Myriam is better now and Jeremy not worse...

I know there is a large disparity between heroes both cause of specialty and starting skills but that is no problem at all unless you are forced to beat Tazar and Crag with Melodia or Aine. Some heroes are fit to be mains some others aren't, to choose between them is also part of the game.
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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Supreme Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 26, 2018 04:48 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 04:51, 26 Sep 2018.

Ryland from Rampart, because as noted Diplomacy is busted.
And rampart gets a lot of recruiting already.

Kyrre a close second.

Crag Hack probably the best for battle.

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Sir Mullich being banned is only a fair and logical alternative. First he is based on a developer, second his portrait is pixelated

But thirld and most important, Speed upgrade is OP. Also it makes you start battles always. The +2 speed stacks with artifacts so "artifacts do it too" can't be an argument. ¿Can we get a hero with +6 to all primary skills because "artifact does it too"?

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


Famous Hero
Rush the rush
posted September 26, 2018 08:11 AM
Edited by Ebonheart at 08:12, 26 Sep 2018.

If Diplomacy is allowed then Cyra as you can with a massive Gremlin stack start the Diplomacy journey instantly.

For Battle: Crag Hack until lv 30-40 and any Armorer hero like Tazar after that.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 26, 2018 08:23 AM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 08:29, 26 Sep 2018.

bloodsucker said:

But you have to admit Myriam is better now and Jeremy not worse...

I know there is a large disparity between heroes both cause of specialty and starting skills but that is no problem at all unless you are forced to beat Tazar and Crag with Melodia or Aine. Some heroes are fit to be mains some others aren't, to choose between them is also part of the game.

It's probably due to the way I play. I don't like picking my main, as it will usually end up in the same 2-3 heroes per faction, making games kinda similar. I always choose random hero, so I sometimes end up with a crappy main hero, but that is also fun to try to see if you can overcome the challenge. Yesterday I gave up, I could'nt beat that damn Elleshar and his legion of Water Elementals...
About Jeremy and Miriam, before both had one useful skill while defending a town, Jeremy Artillery and Miriam Offense, now Jeremy has 2 both Offense and Artillery and Miriam has 0 Logistics and Scouting. I liked their old versions better, so I switched them back. A scout with Logistics, Scouting and Scouting specialty is also too specialised imo.

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