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posted June 17, 2020 05:56 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
She knew the owner, so why didn't she call the owner?
Right. Because she didn't know the owner. She was lying.
I can agree with you on that, as far as I can tell she maybe thought she knew the owner, or just straight up lied. So for that mistake, let's call her, you know, a liar? Not a racist?
Blizzardboy said:
The Filipino didn't engage in her irrational and toxic line of questioning, which is exactly what he should have done. He doesn't have to justify himself for drawing something on his property when there was nothing remotely suspicious about his behavior.
Yea, I won't give you this. It wasn't irrational or exempt from suspicion. Keep in mind you only know it was his property not because he had the courtesy to make that clear and remove any doubt from anyone's mind, but because it's been researched after the fact and you got that information served to you. Because it's relevant. Had it not been his place, it would've been vandalism.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 17, 2020 06:03 PM |
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I probably would in the past.
If you saw somebody painting a sign in the middle of the afternoon you would stop and ask them if they are vandalizing?
You know what? I don't believe you. I don't think you would give it a second thought, which is what any sane human being would do.
*sees a guy painting a slogan*
*stops on the street*
"Excuse me sir. Is this your property?"
Hahahahahahahaha.
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posted June 17, 2020 06:11 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
if you were walking down the street on a sunny afternoon and you saw somebody painting a sign on a shop, would you feel compelled to ask the person whether or not they are committing an act of vandalism?
You answer me: You are walking your dog and you catch me (I'm as menacing as a 54 years old aryan can be) drawing swastikas in front of a door, what will you do?
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 17, 2020 06:36 PM |
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Depending on what country I lived, I would call the police 
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bloodsucker
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posted June 17, 2020 06:38 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Call the police
So, you intervene. Now you're passing judgement on a person cause she didn't intervene in the same way you would and are asking for HER HUSBAND's job? How can you really find this fair?
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Gnomes2169
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posted June 17, 2020 06:40 PM |
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See, swastikas are actually internationally recognized hate symbols, and drawing them on someone's property is equivalent to writing racial slurs on someone's property in most countries of the world. So that's a bad faith example, since even if it was your house, it's still potentially a misdemeanor.
Try, "Drawing a picture of a giraffe" or "Drawing the 'Rise Against' fist" instead.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 17, 2020 06:41 PM |
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I didn't "ask" for anybody's job, lol. Somebody did something highly inappropriate, it caught wind, and there were logical consequences as a result of what they did, which is an improvement from the days when minorities had to justify their existence to Karen's spreading their toxicity to innocent human beings.
The ideal scenario would have been that they kept walking, or perhaps said "Hello" or "Hey" or "Good Morning / Good Afternoon" as they passed by. Something sane. But that didn't happen. They instead decided to be toxic and creepy and ask bizarre questions.
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posted June 17, 2020 06:47 PM |
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@Gnomes2169 I suppose I give you that. "So, I'm drawing a Fist in the front of a door..." It wasn't bad faith but lack of imagination, but I guess it doesn't affect the argument.
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posted June 17, 2020 07:03 PM |
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@Bloodyboi
Yeah, I figured you just chose something that people would reflexively consider offensive without fully considering why it was offensive, rather than choosing an example of something where there wasn't a good answer. Just happened to be that your given example was an actual non-violent criminal activity. Which is why I suggested some not-as-loaded examples, the later of which is politically charged like the swastika without the hate-crime connotations, instead of calling you out as a bad person who should go back to school and who should feel bad. (Or whatever the standard "libtard" response is these days.) 
That said, I only commented in the first place because Blizz just went, "I'd call the police" instead of explaining why that specific example would justify calling the police (misdemeanor and all that,) so I blame the squirrel here. Somehow. Everything is his fault anyway, right?
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blob2
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posted June 17, 2020 07:04 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
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I probably would in the past.
If you saw somebody painting a sign in the middle of the afternoon you would stop and ask them if they are vandalizing?
If they were part of communal services painting a zebra crossing I would probably leave them alone.
Blizzardboy said:
You know what? I don't believe you. I don't think you would give it a second thought, which is what any sane human being would do.
And what do you know about me? It saddens me that America is a country that has so many people who are easy with pointing fingers at "them" while failing to keep to even the most basic social standards by themselves:
- lynch a person just because she wasn't indiffrent to defacing of private property, even if she had the wrong impression, alas the "culprit" didn't even had the basic decency of informing her she is in the wrong. Destroying a persons life in return is the right way, "she had it coming"?
- destroy their or someone else's community/property cus they want to show their anger
- destroy historic 150+ year old monuments cus times have changed and history should be rewritten (even though they do not know the good sides of their history like the role of Tadeusz Kosciuszko in slave emancipation), despite of the histories role to show both good and bad sides of humanity
- stay in home to protect others from potential threat in the midst of nationwide pandemic and instead flocking to big public gatherings
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posted June 17, 2020 07:08 PM |
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Would a black pair in, say, Alabama, seeing a white man chalking White Lives Matter As Well to a wall ask him that, threatening to call the police?
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posted June 17, 2020 07:28 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Would a black pair in, say, Alabama, seeing a white man chalking White Lives Matter As Well to a wall ask him that, threatening to call the police?
No they wouldn't.
They are all six foot ten cannibals, that would beat me to the pulp and eat me alive, if they caught me. 
@Gnomes I'm not that innocent (accordingly to Dracon-Deus it works better without the sound)...
Yeah! I was trying to provoke a reaction, and the fact that I didn't said FICTION with the faith symbols (something I could be caught doing...) is bad faith.
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posted June 17, 2020 07:28 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Would a black pair in, say, Alabama, seeing a white man chalking White Lives Matter As Well to a wall ask him that, threatening to call the police?
I don't know, ask the pair? I suppose it depends on their moral code?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbTOcVJgM8
The fact that a person is black and that he might seem out of place does not stop him from reacting to misconduct:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VGOK_aBqs0
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JollyJoker
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posted June 17, 2020 08:01 PM |
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Nice try, but in your first video a black woman confronts two WHITE girls spraying obviously for fun and tells them not to do this because they will blame BLACKS for it.
In the 2nd video black guys HELP a white guy treated badly.
Two entirely different things.
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JollyJoker
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posted June 17, 2020 08:04 PM |
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bloodsucker said:
JollyJoker said:
Would a black pair in, say, Alabama, seeing a white man chalking White Lives Matter As Well to a wall ask him that, threatening to call the police?
No they wouldn't.
They are all six foot ten cannibals, that would beat me to the pulp and eat me alive, if they caught me.
The correct answer is, no, they wouldn't
They would never threaten to call the police, because everyone would know it's just a bluff.
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posted June 17, 2020 08:19 PM |
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But the worldwide perception of White Lives Matter is not same as Black Lives Matter, a racialist and terrorist organization which spends its time to create hate and get more power.
They ask for cancelling most of USA history by removing major historical figures statues - under the pretext they owned slaves, while not giving a rat about the 30 millions blacks which are nowadays sold as slaves in Africa. And where do they care about the astronomical number of blacks killed by blacks in America, several times higher than any other race?
Black lives matter, my ass. Despicable and toxic activists and power hunger.
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Blizzardboy
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posted June 17, 2020 08:22 PM |
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This just keeps getting better and better.
Because when it comes to positive social reform, one must always look to African dictatorships as a comparison
Do we have any more entirely off-topic and meaningless whataboutism fallacies that you would like to share with the group? Let's get it all out now with the whataboutism fallacies. We can have a happy hour for whataboutery and we can all share a minimum of three whataboutisms with each other.
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posted June 17, 2020 08:56 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
The correct answer is, no, they wouldn't.
A month ago I would agree with you. Next year by this date I will surely agree with you. Today? Let's wait and see.
What the media is covering smells like team spirit and I'm not buying it. I don't see less discrimination, what I see is a roman circus's spectacle and while the heads are rolling I don't feel obliged to put my fist in the air with a Like/Dislike sign. The virtue signaling from the Dems is made by trying to roll some peasant heads, without changes in the staff they pretend will execute the reforms.
You know they won't. The maximum I ever heard Biden say was: aim to the legs... Once elected he will not support changes in the police state he helped to create. He has too much invested in it.
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posted June 17, 2020 08:59 PM |
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Salamandre said:
But the worldwide perception of White Lives Matter is not same as Black Lives Matter, a racialist and terrorist organization which spends its time to create hate and get more power.
You got that switched - if BLM was terrorist, it was forbidden, which it isn't, and it's perception is quite positive all around the world, while WLM is touted by white supremacist groups in order to create hate and get more power, but it doesn't really work.
I'd say, in a way your opinions and warped world view are at least as bad as that of the so detested fundamental muslims, but if you think about it, it's worse, because you actually should know a lot better than that.
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blob2
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posted June 17, 2020 09:05 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Nice try, but in your first video a black woman confronts two WHITE girls spraying obviously for fun and tells them not to do this because they will blame BLACKS for it.
In the 2nd video black guys HELP a white guy treated badly.
Two entirely different things.
You just seem to have an answer for everything? You must be fun at parties...
Obviously for fun? So spraying not for fun is better? Or spraying walls overall (not saying about street art or murals)? She confronts them becasue she recognizes destroying property is bad and might additionaly vilify the blacks (even though most people know already that protesters are unwillingly mixed with antifa and rioters). Becasue spraying or vandalizing walls is like, bad? Do you think she only does so becasue it might give the wrong impression or she actually does care that property is getting damaged? We were talking about destroying property so I followed up on this, becasue you people seem to identify meddling as something wrong. "Everybody sprays walls now, why should we care" should the woman say?
And the second video is semi-related. Just wanted to show a normal gesture of kindness, that even if the roles are switched, people can be humane, so black people can stand up for white people despite constant toxic yapping that whites are bad and should get what they deserve, as this is the message I get from watching media in America.
Your the ones that bring up racial plates as the answer to everything, like the "whites" fault for everything wrong in America currently. Racism at it's finest, even more devastating when you hear it from whites.
JollyJoker said:
You got that switched - if BLM was terrorist, it was forbidden, which it isn't, and it's perception is quite positive all around the world, while WLM is touted by white supremacist groups in order to create hate and get more power, but it doesn't really work.
Becasue no one seriously treats movements that are shunned by their own people and are currently not "hip". Plus many white people seem to have an identity crisis and are easier to manipulate (liberal agenda, confusing times). What makes you feel more good with yourself then helping a minority? But why some people straight on hate their own racial affiliation is beyond me...
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