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bloodsucker
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posted June 03, 2020 09:13 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 09:14, 03 Jun 2020.

I know it's just commentary but they are saying exactly what I believe is happening.

The Hill on the protests
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posted June 03, 2020 01:29 PM
Edited by fred79 at 13:30, 03 Jun 2020.

JollyJoker said:
What I mean is - wouldn't happen. Not EVEN with a wino. Not with BLACK cops and a WHITE wino.


I literally posted a video of cops killing a white man in this thread. I'll say this again: this isn't a RACE problem, it's a CLASS problem. You leftists are all the same. You and artu and others deny reality, are black apologists(which makes you racist), and you parrot the same bullsnow the media spews. Blacks aren't kept down by the system, the ENTIRE LOWER CLASS are. If anything, blacks have MORE opportunities than whites, because they get enrolled in colleges JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DIVERSITY, as well as being diversity hires for jobs, and not to mention, when a white is called racist by a black, they have to either get FIRED or defend themselves legally; whereas if a black says on social media that all white people need KILLED, none of you leftists bat an EYE, because "they're oppressed". Same excuse if they commit crimes: you condemn whites, but blacks get a free pass.

The left's view of "reality", is utter bullsnow. The exact same thing goes for your feminist tripe, your LGBT tripe, your immigration tripe... the list goes on and on. It's sickening. There is something DRASTICALLY and LOGICALLY wrong with your stances on nearly EVERYTHING.

You say that i don't know what a leftist is, or that it is an umbrella term, but you people don't realize just how ALIKE you all are.

Btw, does anyone who still cares about the REAL ISSUE OF POLICE BRUTALITY know where that supposedly new video of the three cops beating a ziptied civilian actually took place?

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posted June 03, 2020 02:03 PM

Forgot to mention, i saw the National Guard rolling down the street in a convoy with cop suv's front and rear. We haven't even really had violence yet. The cops responded immediately with teargas the first night things started heating up, and the second night(with the curfew in effect), things were much calmer. People getting arrested just for being out past curfew, but not rioting.

So why the National Guard being brought in NOW, you might ask? Because cops have gang mentality(as they actually are a gang themselves, endorsed by the state), and when it comes to subduing weaker prey who aren't really posing an armed threat to them, they still attack/defend in numbers, with armor and military weapons. Against civilians. Civilians NOT using guns. The only reason, i think, that they don't use live rounds, is because they don't want a populace that COULD use guns, to use them.

Which is smart, but then why allow looting? Why restraint when it comes to ACTUAL CRIME? Is it because the poor are victimizing their own class, maybe? And because the big chain stores are insured, anyway? I say yes, to both.

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posted June 03, 2020 02:04 PM

Of course not.  Police brutality isn't seen enough.  Gotta play that race card when you can.
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posted June 03, 2020 02:07 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 14:16, 03 Jun 2020.

@fred79:

Race and class intersect to a degree.

For example, gerrymandering strips the average American of their right to vote. This disproportionately affects blacks because urban areas are the most heavily gerrymandered. Whites are affected by gerrymandering as well but they are more widely spread out throughout the country.

The rich also have more voting rights than the poor, because they have the power to buy elections. On a legalistic/literal/stupid level, they technically both each have one vote, but that's merely ink on a page. The fact is: the child of a rich person is more human than the child of a poor person. The one is half-dog and the other is half-god, and they are treated as such until the day they die, which probably happens sooner for the half-dog.
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posted June 03, 2020 02:07 PM

Look, fred, you are right: the entire lower class is kept down. We leftists have said that since Marx and Engels began with it.

But you know what? That doesn't mean there is no racism. Or misogyny. In fact, all the class oppression never hindered men through all the classes to oppress women and to be racist or antisemitic or homophobic.

You can easily be part of an oppressed class/minority and be an oppressor/racist and so on yourself.

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Salamandre
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posted June 03, 2020 02:16 PM

There is nothing wrong discussing racism issues, but in a context and a list of major problems the black community has. First and most major problem is that they commit crimes at an outrageous level, compared to any others. Second problem is that they kill themselves at an outrageous level compared to any others. This of course has consequences, which brings the third problem, the absence of fathers in homes, so kids have from start their chances of going wrong multiplied by 2 digits figures.

Once you talk of those 3 major problems, look at the list and see where racism is, and at what level it impacts. Conservative blacks use to say racism isn't even in the first 100 problems a black faces and I tend to agree with them.

The main problem that No One, press included, wants to talk about major issues, freaking out that he will be called racist. So, by omission, a whole narrative is developed where everything focuses on the white race, as principal trigger of problems. But it isn't.
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fred79
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posted June 03, 2020 02:17 PM

Blizzardboy said:
@fred79:

Race and class intersect to a degree.

For example, gerrymandering strips the average American of their right to vote. This disproportionately affects blacks because urban areas are the most heavily gerrymandered. Whites are affected by gerrymandering as well but they are more widely spread out throughout the country.

The rich also have more voting rights than the poor, because they have the power to buy elections. On a legalistic/literal/stupid level, they technically both each have one vote, but that's merely ink on a page. The fact is: the child of a rich person is more human than the child of a poor person. The one is half-dog and the other is half-god, and they are treated as such until the day they die.


Blacks don't vote in the numbers they should, because most of them don't care enough to get involved in politics at all. That's nobody's fault but their own.

As for your second paragraph, i agree. But that shouldn't stop the poor from making damn sure their voice is HEARD in politics, despite it's ineffectiveness. They DESPERATELY need to SEE that the people in power don't give a rat's ASS about the poor, even when they try to play their game. Being complacent about their status solves nothing.

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posted June 03, 2020 02:20 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 15:15, 03 Jun 2020.

To some extent, it's irrelevant whether they participate or not, which accounts for the lack of voting. The only relevant candidates on the ballot are a democrat or a republican, and the district is gerrymandered to such an extent that the one candidate's chances of winning are pretty much zero. There could be a 25% or 50% or 100% turnout and it wouldn't affect the outcome of the election.

That's just one example but when the system is designed in a manner to render voting meaningless (which is the case in a quasi-democracy such as the US) then that will lead to voter apathy. Is it their fault? Meh. Blame is largely beside the point. It's not as if the system itself isn't contributing to their apathy.

The fact is, in order for the situation to be dramatically improved in the USA there either needs to be a constitutional convention or a coup, and it's almost impossible to coup a complex federal system like the USA.

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posted June 03, 2020 02:23 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 13:09, 04 Jun 2020.

fred79 said:
If anything, blacks have MORE opportunities than whites, because they get enrolled in colleges JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DIVERSITY, as well as being diversity hires for jobs

Here I think you are in the wrong. Not saying it doesn't happen (just look at this hilarious video and ask yourself how these chimps were admitted in a university in the first place) but the discrimination against mohammeds is stronger then the quota.
For the rest I subscribe it, it's mostly a class problem masked by the establishment dems as a race problem, so they don't have to deal with the fact their policies are hurting the exact same people they pretend to represent. Look at the lobbyists bailout in a law proposed by them that let behind the workers affected by the Corona Virus pandemic*.

*Found it, direct quotation: "they asked for a quarter of a trillion dollars in 48 hours, I don't think so..."
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posted June 03, 2020 02:26 PM

JollyJoker said:
Look, fred, you are right: the entire lower class is kept down. We leftists have said that since Marx and Engels began with it.

But you know what? That doesn't mean there is no racism. Or misogyny. In fact, all the class oppression never hindered men through all the classes to oppress women and to be racist or antisemitic or homophobic.

You can easily be part of an oppressed class/minority and be an oppressor/racist and so on yourself.


The same thing applies to women, what i said about blacks. Hires based on sex, college tuition based on sex, calling someone sexist can get a man fired, and they can laugh and joke about castration and call/accuse men of being rapists, and the man either gets fired, villified, incarcerated, or all three; and have to prove she was lying IN COURT. And if they're found not guilty? Do any of the accusers(both female OR black), ever feel a legal repercussion from their accusation? Any repurcussion at all? No, because "they're oppressed".

Utter bullsnow, and it's allowed, because that is the narrative. Because leftists BELIEVE what the msm tells them. It's a snowing ECHOCHAMBER of horrors, and it's spread EVERYWHERE in the west.

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posted June 03, 2020 02:28 PM

Ooh, i somehow missed the "antisemetic" remark. Lol. Just, lol. You don't want to open that can of worms, bub. If you can't make it past the basics, man, you'll never make it to the advanced level.

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posted June 03, 2020 02:35 PM

Not to mention that 90% of the antisemitism in Europe comes from ... minorities of "color".

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posted June 03, 2020 03:04 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 15:08, 03 Jun 2020.

Salamandre said:
Not to mention that 90% of the antisemitism in Europe comes from ... minorities of "color".


Not true. It's alive and well in Austria and Switzerland and not because minorities showed up. The most prominent person in France's alt right was a holocaust denier up until his daughter took over, so give me a break.

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posted June 03, 2020 03:04 PM

Yes I wrote white is minority. But if you know about cartoon Jesus healed a sick. Press "OK" White is white.

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Salamandre
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posted June 03, 2020 03:21 PM

Blizzardboy said:
The most prominent person in France's alt right was a holocaust denier up until his daughter took over, so give me a break.


Fake news. As usual, you read catchy titles then ignore the substance.

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posted June 03, 2020 03:24 PM

Lol, yes, ghost. It's ok to be white.

*the left gasps in horror*

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posted June 03, 2020 03:31 PM

On a much less humorous note, here are protestors beating on a man in a wheelchair.

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posted June 03, 2020 03:46 PM

Salamandre said:
Blizzardboy said:
The most prominent person in France's alt right was a holocaust denier up until his daughter took over, so give me a break.


Fake news. As usual, you read catchy titles then ignore the substance.
Not fake news. He was convicted A COUPLE OF TIMES for it. Stop calling everyting you don't like as fake news.

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posted June 03, 2020 03:51 PM

fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
Look, fred, you are right: the entire lower class is kept down. We leftists have said that since Marx and Engels began with it.

But you know what? That doesn't mean there is no racism. Or misogyny. In fact, all the class oppression never hindered men through all the classes to oppress women and to be racist or antisemitic or homophobic.

You can easily be part of an oppressed class/minority and be an oppressor/racist and so on yourself.


The same thing applies to women, what i said about blacks. Hires based on sex, college tuition based on sex, calling someone sexist can get a man fired, and they can laugh and joke about castration and call/accuse men of being rapists, and the man either gets fired, villified, incarcerated, or all three; and have to prove she was lying IN COURT. And if they're found not guilty? Do any of the accusers(both female OR black), ever feel a legal repercussion from their accusation? Any repurcussion at all? No, because "they're oppressed".


Utter bullsnow, and it's allowed, because that is the narrative. Because leftists BELIEVE what the msm tells them. It's a snowing ECHOCHAMBER of horrors, and it's spread EVERYWHERE in the west... Ooh, i somehow missed the "antisemetic" remark. Lol. Just, lol. You don't want to open that can of worms, bub. If you can't make it past the basics, man, you'll never make it to the advanced level.


So you are denying that all this exists. No antisemitism, no misogyny, no racism? Has never existed? Fake news? All lies? That the real problem is that the whites are suppressed? The women? The jews are the  evil-doers? Don't you see how ridiculous this is?


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