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Thread: E.P.I.C. Visions of HoM&M Thread! This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV / NEXT»
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posted September 18, 2020 09:31 PM
Edited by PandaTar at 21:32, 18 Sep 2020.

Yes, varying aspects more tied to factions, and not only generic income/growth boost should be what's a Grail is all about, for it represents something unique for each people, I reckon. Regarding that aspect, having many grails makes sense also, because each faction would value something over the other: if they were fixed values such as those Ultimate Artifacts, technically, each faction could have their own optimized grail, however it would not be nearly as optimal to other factions.

Either way appeases me:
1.   Things that morph into unique stuff depending on the holder (Grail Artifacts).
2.   Things that have a targeted public, but can be held by others with less effectiveness (Ultimate Artifacts).
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posted September 19, 2020 01:47 AM
Edited by MattII at 01:52, 19 Sep 2020.

I actually had a third idea for it, a set of artefacts which offer fairly generic bonuses to any hero holding then, but offer much more unique bonuses when they're held in a town.

Also, I'd like for some artifact combos to be convertible into single artifacts, Armageddon's Blade (the artifact, not the actual expansion) style, but which should only be doable at certain locations (which don't show up in random maps), and for significant prices.

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posted September 19, 2020 11:47 PM

MattII said:
Also, I'd like for some artifact combos to be convertible into single artifacts, Armageddon's Blade (the artifact, not the actual expansion) style, but which should only be doable at certain locations (which don't show up in random maps), and for significant prices.


That would be a logical way to deal with that. Because they actually transformed a group of artefacts into a new one, so the logic is to make the whole group into only one piece, yes. Differently from the sets we see in Diablo/Witcher games.

I like the idea of having NPCs having unique jobs. One of them could be an Artefact Master. NPCs availability woudld be scripted under certain requirements. Well, a lot of ways to implement that.
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posted September 20, 2020 05:37 AM

Well I was thinking more of a map location than an NPC to be honest.

On a different note, I found the advanced classes in Heroes 4 to be an interesting idea.

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posted October 22, 2020 11:38 PM

MattII said:
Well I was thinking more of a map location than an NPC to be honest.

On a different note, I found the advanced classes in Heroes 4 to be an interesting idea.


Heroes 4 was quite innovative, actually, aside from the stupid idea to move Heroes onto the battlefield! It should not be cast aside!

Aside from Heroes 3, HoMM truly can be a RollerCoaster!

Strategy first!!
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posted October 23, 2020 12:39 AM

The idea was not stupid. It was not implemented in a proper manner, though. Heroes became juggernauts, almost invincible, even alone. Like few other features in Heroes games which didn't fit well, but had potential if trimmed, polished or developed better.
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posted October 23, 2020 04:23 AM

PandaTar said:
The idea was not stupid. It was not implemented in a proper manner, though. Heroes became juggernauts, almost invincible, even alone. Like few other features in Heroes games which didn't fit well, but had potential if trimmed, polished or developed better.


The point is: Heroes 4 tried; while Heroes 3 failed! There is no true one-fits-all potion for our Strategic HoMM animosities! We need innovation!!

Vote Trump!!!
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posted October 23, 2020 05:51 AM

Moderators already asked you not to post political stuff on the gaming threads. There are other threads for that.
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posted October 24, 2020 04:42 AM

PandaTar said:
Moderators already asked you not to post political stuff on the gaming threads. There are other threads for that.


Well... He is the better candidate! And the mods didn't ask me...; in particular; we have many posters...; Besides me!

But, nonetheless; it is an important message... to vote! To have your voice counted! Both in Heroes... and in real-life!!!

Make yours count!!!
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posted October 24, 2020 05:31 AM
Edited by PandaTar at 05:32, 24 Oct 2020.

Elections here will take 2 years.

And he did mention. I am not making that up. It was not solely directed to MattIII.
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posted October 25, 2020 03:16 AM

Monthly Events... !!

Days; Weeks; Months!

Things happen all the time!!

In Heroes, the weeks are important!

All sorts of things happen; and events are triggered!

But Months have gone neglected so far!

What if we had a better system!?

So that... there would be an extra layer/tier of events!?

Monthly triggers!!

I remember such a distinction from The Lost Continent(Heroes 2)...

But...; what do you think!?

Could it be scripted!!!??


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posted October 25, 2020 03:36 AM
Edited by MattII at 07:39, 25 Oct 2020.

Have to check when I get home, but I'm pretty sure it was doable in Heroes 3.

Edit: You can have an event that repeats every 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/14/21/28 days, so yes, effectively monthly.

In heroes 4 you can select however many days you like between events taking place.

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posted October 27, 2020 04:08 AM

Dobruja Trump FTW!

No electric chair!!

It's been a good year!
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posted October 27, 2020 03:50 PM

veteran_player said:
Dobruja Trump FTW!

No electric chair!!

It's been a good year!


Many users already told you to stop. This topic is about discussing visions about Homm. This is your last warning about posting politics related stuff in here.
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posted October 27, 2020 05:08 PM

Galaad said:
veteran_player said:
Dobruja Trump FTW!

No electric chair!!

It's been a good year!


Many users already told you to stop. This topic is about discussing visions about Homm. This is your last warning about posting politics related stuff in here.


Understood; And Agreed!
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posted October 28, 2020 11:06 PM

Slow year's end conclusion!...

Black Lives Matter!!!!

Not - Covid!!

Take it easy in November!
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posted October 29, 2020 12:12 AM
Edited by Rimgrabber at 00:16, 29 Oct 2020.

So uh anyway HoMM...

Something h5 did that I liked a lot regarding set artifacts is that the boosts get slowly improved as you complete the set, culminating in a massive OP boost when the set was complete. For example the Power of Dragons. Also how some sets, like the archer's dream, had a faction-specific boost that only a specific class could utilize.

I also liked H6's dynasty weapons in concept, although the implementation was abysmal. I'd rather there be certain relics that can level up as you use them, unlocking cool new unique abilities, within one game. Not the "you must grind for 1,000,000 XP and now you have an overpowered artifact you start the game with" nonsense.

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posted October 29, 2020 02:07 AM - penalty applied by Galaad on 29 Oct 2020.

Trump is Teh Super-snow!!

If HoMM5 and HoMM6 were integrated; it could be a great game!


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posted October 29, 2020 07:34 PM
Edited by MattII at 19:40, 29 Oct 2020.

Heroes 5 and 6 can't be integrated because so many of their mechanics are contradictory. Hells, Heroes 6 doesn't even have the same number of resources as the rest of the series!

I'm sure Heroes 6 was a pretty decent game in a vacuum, but as a part of the HoMM series, it was poor, deformed child that made even Heroes 4 look good.

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posted October 30, 2020 12:30 AM

Rimgrabber said:

Something h5 did that I liked a lot regarding set artifacts is that the boosts get slowly improved as you complete the set, culminating in a massive OP boost when the set was complete.

A lot of games use that mechanism, such as Witcher 3 or Diablo. It is a nice feature.

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I'd rather there be certain relics that can level up as you use them...

I think Might & Magic X's relics were like that. Nothing too fancy, but it was also a nice addition if it was better implemented.
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