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fred79
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posted November 29, 2020 12:07 AM

that depends if they do the right thing or not.

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posted November 29, 2020 12:36 AM
Edited by tSar-Ivor at 00:42, 29 Nov 2020.

Right and wrong, how cute.

It's a verdict of lawful or unlawful or constitutional or not, ain't nothing to do with right and wrong.

The issue isn't with the courts, it's with the evidence gathering, in order to come to a methodical conclusion you need information - facts and evidence. However if your apparatus for gathering them is inept or corrupt well no matter how 'just'/upstanding your judges are they will be crippled.


If one side says that there was no tampering with the ballots, and the other side has no evidence of the contrary. No moral or sane judge is going to YOLO it and rule the election was rigged, he is not there to wing it, he is there to come to weigh the evidence presented by both sides and come to a lawful and reasonable decision for ruling in favor of one party over the other.
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posted November 29, 2020 12:42 AM

Minion said:
Can you explain how do you think(know!) Trump will win Pennsylvania exactly?


This may work too


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posted November 29, 2020 01:02 AM

@ tsar: you know exactly what i mean. you're the one acting cute.

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posted November 29, 2020 01:14 AM
Edited by tSar-Ivor at 01:32, 29 Nov 2020.

Not really please elaborate we shouldn't have to guess at what you mean, kinda rude to lay the blame at another's feet for your inability to express yourself clearly. Don't ya think sweet'ums?

The judge ain't gonna do the 'right' thing as you'd interpret it, he is going to make a decision based on evidence and supplement his decision for his ruling with superflous moral reason too (which is the right thing). No way in hell would any respectable judge wing it and rule in favor of a party lacking in evidence.

If there was anything unconstitutional going on with the ballot counts and the cabal arguing for this does not cough up solid evidence to present to the Supreme Court then they are going to sink like a **** ton of bricks and look like tits to top it off.

Nothing to do with the court, just the inaptitude of anyone arguing that there was tampering.
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posted November 29, 2020 01:42 AM

tSar-Ivor said:
Not really please elaborate we shouldn't have to guess at what you mean, kinda rude to lay the blame at another's feet for your inability to express yourself clearly. Don't ya think sweet'ums?

The judge ain't gonna do the 'right' thing as you'd interpret it, he is going to make a decision based on evidence and supplement his decision for his ruling with superflous moral reason too (which is the right thing). No way in hell would any respectable judge wing it and rule in favor of a party lacking in evidence.

If there was anything unconstitutional going on with the ballot counts and the cabal arguing for this does not cough up solid evidence to present to the Supreme Court then they are going to sink like a **** ton of bricks and look like tits to top it off.

Nothing to do with the court, just the inaptitude of anyone arguing that there was tampering.


denial of fraud at this point utterly removes any decent standing that person has in a just and honest society. your refusal to make any attempt whatsoever to examine crystal-clear evidence negates any opinion you think is your own.

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posted November 29, 2020 07:24 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 19:24, 29 Nov 2020.

In his comprehensive piece on the Bush administration back in 2004, Dean Ruskind took a quote from an unnamed senior official in the administration.  The official was long thought to be Karl Rove, though he has long vehemently denied it.  I think it is a confession by a republican on what they have been attempting to do for the last several decades--create an alternate reality for their voters.

"People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
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The passionate defense of this piece of trash, soon to be former president, by his faithful, is evidence of the success of their efforts.


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posted November 29, 2020 08:29 PM

that "alternate reality" that you refer to, is the propaganda machine you all follow. i've been trying to stress this, because of it's catastrophic effects on people.

saying that the right has propaganda, and that THAT'S the problem, is a direct result of you all listening to LEFTIST propaganda. which isn't even "leftist" in actuality, but just portrayed primarily through that medium.

i don't expect anyone to understand, who doesn't already. i highly doubt you will ever allow yourselves to be convinced of the god's-honest truth, anymore. all the evidence i have seen from your kind, has proven this:

you are unreachable.

and that's a real problem, because you are among people who don't deny the truth, and you are in fact dangerous to them; even to your own families, friends, and countries. simply because you REFUSE reality. there USED to be a name for people like that. there USED to be a place for people like that, as well.

you have no idea, the danger you represent to everyone and everything stable. you have no idea, the ramifications of denying reality, and it's rampant spread in society.

it is a sickness, simply put. and, a lethal one. not only to people unlike yourselves, but yourselves, as well.

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posted November 29, 2020 08:37 PM

Fred, have you ever seen the movie 12 Angry Men?
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posted November 29, 2020 08:41 PM

i have not. have you ever read the book 1984?

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posted November 29, 2020 09:01 PM

So you read 1984 and you believe that there even IS something like "left" and "right" (as opposed to the side called "power for power's sake")? You know, O'Brien telling Winston that they do what they do to crush people under their boot heel?

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posted November 29, 2020 09:05 PM
Edited by fred79 at 21:20, 29 Nov 2020.

i'll respond to that ridiculous post of yours in a second, jj. you never understand anything anyone but a leftist posts, you know that?



first, i want to know everyone's thoughts on this video, recorded from cnn.

it covers a very important point, that i think needs addressing.

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posted November 29, 2020 09:11 PM

JollyJoker said:
So you read 1984 and you believe that there even IS something like "left" and "right" (as opposed to the side called "power for power's sake")? You know, O'Brien telling Winston that they do what they do to crush people under their boot heel?


1984, just like reality, isn't about left or right. i have stressed repeatedly, that these globalists are working through both factions, but PRIMARILY, through the left. and this is PLAINLY evident. there ISN'T any room for interpretation on this. if you are paying attention, and don't lie to yourself, you will come to exactly the SAME conclusion as myself.

the message contained in 1984, directly correlates to what the globalists are striving for. if you don't see this, and the proof all around you ESPECIALLY right at this moment in history, you're blind, and WILLFULLY SO. and for that matter, who in the living HELL reads 1984, and thinks to themselves, "hey! THAT is a great idea! let's do THAT! let's all support THAT!"

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posted November 29, 2020 09:26 PM

fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
So you read 1984 and you believe that there even IS something like "left" and "right" (as opposed to the side called "power for power's sake")? You know, O'Brien telling Winston that they do what they do to crush people under their boot heel?


1984, just like reality, isn't about left or right. i have stressed repeatedly, that these globalists are working through both factions, but PRIMARILY, through the left. and this is PLAINLY evident. there ISN'T any room for interpretation on this. if you are paying attention, and don't lie to yourself, you will come to exactly the SAME conclusion as myself.

the message contained in 1984, directly correlates to what the globalists are striving for. if you don't see this, and the proof all around you ESPECIALLY right at this moment in history, you're blind, and WILLFULLY SO. and for that matter, who in the living HELL reads 1984, and thinks to themselves, "hey! THAT is a great idea! let's do THAT! let's all support THAT!"




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posted November 29, 2020 09:34 PM

I should have known that I'll get nonsense on this.

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posted November 29, 2020 09:40 PM

Blizzardboy said:
Fred I know the disbursement of all-caps and bold text and italics is popular on cult sites, but can you just type normally? It sounds like yelling in my head and it is unpleasant to look at.


"cult sites"? really? are you implying i'm a part of some cult? believe me, i'm aware that's one of the new trends being pushed by the globalist agenda, to be a part of "a cult" if you're not on board their program, but get serious. ffs, this is beneath you.

this is how i talk irl. if we were having a conversation, i would use the exact same emphasis, because it is needed to punctuate the points i attempt to drive home, that many people so desperately feel the need to ignore and/or refute endlessly, despite clear-cut evidence that backs up my viewpoint.

instead of addressing the format, can you make an attempt to address the point i'm making?

this whole "you're a part of a cult"("wrongthink", which is a part of the globalist program), is EXACTLY what i'm talking about, with 1984.

think about this for a second: WHICH is the predominant side pushing the idea of "wrongthink" worldwide? people who are trying to point out the election fraud, or every outlet claiming no fraud happened, and to accept their globalist candidates biden and harris?
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posted November 29, 2020 09:42 PM

JollyJoker said:
I should have known that I'll get nonsense on this.


would you care to explain just HOW my response was nonsense? can you even DEFINE what it is about my post that is nonsense?
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posted November 29, 2020 09:46 PM

The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in this one

Fred, you are operating under the delusion that I didn't mean what I said to you right after the election.  Since you were so sleep deprived during that period, it now makes more sense why you've forgotten it.  I encourage you to go reread my pieces.  

For posterity's sake, here's the synopsis:  I am never going to discuss politics with you.  You are persona non grata to me in the OSM.  My back is turned to you.  I've had my fill of conflict with the conservative bootlickers like Dargon, Muerte, Shadey, and of course Elodin.  I added you to the list years ago while I was lurking and not posting.  Good day.
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posted November 29, 2020 09:48 PM

if your back is turned to any opposing view, then how will you ever understand the world around you?

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posted November 29, 2020 10:12 PM
Edited by Baronus at 22:13, 29 Nov 2020.

Baronus

Sorry its typical for levi*** . I dont want here logical arguments I ban you! The same is ytube fbok etc censors. Its fanatism like IS. Marxism always based on falses untruths and manipulation.

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