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fred79
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posted August 24, 2021 03:28 PM |
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just stop, dude. just because you refuse to EDUCATE yourself and THINK, doesn't mean anyone arguing with you is a conspiracy theorist. you act like a child, and it's embarassing to see a full-grown adult pretend something isn't true just because they don't want it to be. you and your ilk need to grow the snow up and make an actual attempt to understand the machinations of society, rather than doing the equivalent of sticking your fingers in you ears and going "lalalala! i can't hear you!" anytime you're told something that conflicts with what proven liars and manipulators tell you. 
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artu
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posted August 24, 2021 08:32 PM |
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Except you really are a conspiracy believer (allthough, you dont summon the theories yourself, you just stick to them) and you are the one who goes "la la" every single time. Once again, you are projecting your own attitude to what you cant grasp.
You turn every thread into an asylum where people have to deal with your ignorance and lunacy, listen to you rant on and on about facts while you live in your own fantasy. Just dont do it.
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Galaad
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posted August 24, 2021 09:55 PM |
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fred79 said:
one link of almost certainly bogus stats somehow disproves the insurmountable evidence from the cdc and the who themselves that claim otherwise
Can you link these claims please?
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 01:17 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 07:48, 25 Aug 2021.
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Galaad said:
fred79 said:
one link of almost certainly bogus stats somehow disproves the insurmountable evidence from the cdc and the who themselves that claim otherwise
Can you link these claims please?
digging through my files now, although when i find and post the info, you and the others are just going to argue more.
edit: i could not find the specific info i was alluding to on my phone or computer. i'll have to search the net to find the links again; hopefully it's still available. what i did find, though, was a nice read of an actual scientist's perspective on the "vaccines"; which reads to be a split between your group's understanding and mine. informative and entertaining, but sadly it was from screenshots, so i'd have to transcribe it and edit it for the censors here at hc.
tl;dr: allow me some time to re-find what i once had, and to transcribe a decent read related to the vacc bs from a scientist, for hc.
edit 2: i stumbled across two screenshots i saved of what i was referring to before. sadly, these are only for the U.S., only from the cdc's website, and they don't provide the links i had before(i may still stumble upon them somewhere, as i haven't got everything organized like i should), either. i'll keep looking for the worldwide info with the links.
edit 3: here is the current link for the data presented above. it will differ, since the above data was taken in may.
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JollyJoker
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posted August 25, 2021 07:54 AM |
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Killed by Death - Motörhead
Fred, when you stick a knife into someone, severing an artery OR right into the brain via an ear, both died from being stuck with a knife - but one died from severe blood loss, the other from brain death.
People aren't dying from cancer - but the cancer is killing them one way or another, depending on what kind of cancer you have, where it spreads to, what fails first, how strong the pain is - or even from the treatment.
My mom, for example, suffered from kidney failure, due an autoimmune reaction (she had had blood pressure problems 20 years ago). She also had an issue with her spine and hips which made her somewhat immobile (not fully, but it meant, going to a doctor was no easy feat). She also got somewhat dement, albeit not REALLY badly. With 3 times week going to dialysis all was stable - until they found that lump in her mouth after she claimed eating would hurt her. At this point I'm throwing in that she's been a smoker most of her life and never more so than in her last years.
Due to her general state an operation was out of the question (they would have had to remove half of the palate with a lengthy reconstruction process; of course she should have done it anyway, but who could know). Chemotherapy was out for the same reason which left radiotherapy, killing her slowly, but with rather meagre effect on the tumor. She couldn't eat less and less, and in the end she decided to stop her dialysis treatment and died nearly a week later.
So - what did she die from? Smoking? Cancer? Kidney failure? Suicide?
The correct answer is multiple causes. Which is what happens with covid as well. People may die from an overreaction of the immune system to covid, for example - multiple inflammation, which may involve stuff like kidneys, liver and even heart. Or their immune system may be weakened - smoking, overweight, bad general condition, whatever.
People survive cancer as well, mind you.
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Galaad
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posted August 25, 2021 09:41 AM |
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Gnomes2169
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posted August 25, 2021 11:23 AM |
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So, uh, actual health safety advice, do not drink neurotoxins used to kill worms and other parasites in livestock. Just don't do it, period. Especially don't do it to try to 'cure' Covid-19 like hundreds of people are doing right now in the USA because of god awful advice from political partisans.
I'm talking about Ivermectin here, which is a product that, and I cannot stress this enough, is a potent neurotoxin that right-wing pundits in the USA are trying to push as a Covid cure. For the drug, .024mg/kl is what is used in treatment of sheepdogs. Meanwhile, .1mg/kl, a .076kg difference, is enough to cause cardiac arrest and seizures in those same sheepdogs. Measuring out a safe dose for a human in a cough syrup bottle is not something you can eyeball with the thresholds being as miniscule and narrow as they are. It's a deadly neurotoxin. Taking too much will hospitalize and kill you. Just shy of too much will hospitalize you and leave you with permanent severe brain and nerve damage.
This all started, as far as I can tell, because an Australian news network interviewed a team that was finding that Ivermectin could stop Covid replication in a petry dish... but that story stressed that the drug could not be purchased over the counter, could not be self-medicated safely, and was in fact dangerous, and that dosage requirements before reaching full effectiveness were still unknown. So it could very well be that the required concentration could be too dangerous to make it an effective cure even if trials can be replicated with any kind of consistency, since, again, severe brain damage and death are the side effects of too much Ivermectin. They also stressed that there was currently no cure for Covid.
US right-wing news sources, such as FOX and OANN, took out that disclaimer and just ran the story with the narrative that Ivermectin was a cure for Covid. Please disregard these sources, they are not your friends, they literally do not care if their advice kills you. The vaccines, which are becoming fully approved by the FDA in the same form they have been since their original rollout, are the only known protection against the virus at this time. Get a vaccine. It is safe, it is effective, and it's not a neurotoxin that is administered to livestock.
And if someone wants to accuse me of giving this advice because I'm brainwashed by "big pharma" or something... Ivermectin is produced by Merc. Merc is one of the absolute largest pharmaceutical companies in the world, and they are also telling people not to take Ivermectin because it isn't safe. They would benefit from people taking this drug, monetarily, and they are telling people not to. Because it is not proven or safe.
Don't do it.
If you want protection from the pandemic that we can beat just like Polio and Smallpox, then just swallow your pride and take the safe and proven vaccine. It's not rocket science, it's not some shadowy world government plot, this is just how you actually beat viral epidemics. You use proven, safe vaccines, not neurotoxins and experimental and exceedingly limited drug therapies.
Oi vey. I'ma go put my head through a wall now. Bye.
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 01:31 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 14:14, 25 Aug 2021.
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^ thanks for repeating the globalist narrative currently being spewed on the msm, gnomes. how very "OBEY" of you.
meanwhile, here is a government-backed article arguing against the current narrative. there are many such articles, but this one is backed by the people suddenly and inexplicably reversing their stance. i WOULD leave the reasoning for that up to you, but you'll just get it wrong. so, i'll tell you, instead. it is because people are taking ivermectin instead of getting the jab; which is their primary goal atm.
@ the others: it says right on the page i linked:
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For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.
i'm not going to explain this any further. what i quoted here from their own website, contains all the information you need to know. now, apply reasoning. you will understand why i say what i say, when you apply reasoning to those two simple sentences. if you cannot do this, then you're NEVER going to see ANYTHING other than the globalist narrative being "fact", for you.
you have to be able to THINK.
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Kipshasz
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posted August 25, 2021 03:06 PM |
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I just had a lenghty debate(lol) with a british liberal douche, and he thinks that me describing my perpetual mild cold symptoms during autumn/winter (meaning I get those every year) and the solution to ignore them, is me denying the existance of cuckrona. guy got mad along the lines of the rose sipping kraut, when I made fun of the disease and the severity of it.
I am depressed that I lack the talent to make stuff like this up.
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 03:14 PM |
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you should be. 
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posted August 25, 2021 03:49 PM |
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I just talked to a conservative guy who was praising that because he uses Ivermectin he hasn't gotten Covid, hahahah. I swear to god if he looked a bit more unemployed I could have sworn it was Kip.
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Kipshasz
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posted August 25, 2021 03:52 PM |
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Why didn't you sent a harassing HCM to me after I replied in Antipaladin's thread? You know, like you did with Blob when he replied to Azagal's thread.
Am I not bigoted enough for you? 
Only liberals are unemployed where I live, but nice try. It was a solid 2 out of 10.
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"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 03:54 PM |
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted August 25, 2021 03:55 PM |
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Gnomes man, you're not supposed to tell people to stop them from killing themselves. It's just a darwin test in order to weed out the unfit. Now you'll ruin their fun.
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 04:36 PM |
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your side tells people not to take something that has worked against covid, while promoting something that doesn't do jack diddley against it, and is actually worse for you and the world at large, in more than one way.
yeah, you people shouldn't be giving public service announcements, period. you're not even as helpful as a screen door on a submarine; you're more like a hole in a submarine.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 25, 2021 10:36 PM |
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fred79 said:
while promoting something that doesn't do jack diddley against it, and is actually worse for you and the world at large, in more than one way.
This is flat-out wrong and it is the most dangerous kind of fake news. The vaccines work. Almost weekly, there are news of families where each one gets vaccinated except one of them, because he/she buys into that paranoid crap like you, and then the whole family gets covid, vaccinated ones dont even stay in the hospital but the conspiracy victim dies. They are not necessarily old aged either, just the other day a 17 year old girl died while her (vaccinated) family got through the disease as if it's a small hangover from the other night. Your BS literally kills people.
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fred79
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posted August 25, 2021 10:54 PM |
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stopped reading after "this is flat-out wrong". you're just parroting the bs they tell you and you're acting like it's your own thought-out and reasonable opinion based on fact. you're not finding anything out on your own, and you're not making any attempt to validate the propaganda from non-propaganda sources. your refusal to accept facts make you look like a child throwing a temper tantrum. only, a mediocre one.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 26, 2021 01:03 AM |
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Fred, first of all, when you repeat something that you are accused of to the accuser, it doesnt work like you think it does. You really do rant and you really are childish with your "mirror" technique. When you "strike back" by calling my words a tantrum, it doesnt make them one though. It really doesnt work like that.
You're so sunk in your own convictions, you still talk about checking out facts right after your very recent "info" has been refuted. Guess what, it's not enough to check things on your own, you also have to be doing it with a sound and open mind. They are not making up the dead & alive people from the same households, neither are they making up the ratio of vaccinated people fighting off the disease so easily.
You served in the military right, let me put it in terms you can understand, a vaccine is a drill. It's an exercise for the soldiers in your immune system to practice combat skills, learn the tactics of the enemy, prepare proper weapons. They insert a weakened, practically harmless verison of the virus in your body, so when the real thing comes along, your soldiers fight prepared. It doesnt and never has meant you wont catch the disease. That's never how vaccines worked, ever. Now, think of a trained marine getting in a random bar fight, then think of a desk clerk getting in a random bar fight, compare the odds. Your argument is like saying, "look, this marine got his ass kicked in a bar the other night, training doesnt work." It's not impossible that he gets his ass kicked, it just much much less likely.
And arent the people who take stupid stuff instead of the vaccine, indirectly admitting to the existence and reality of the covid threat by simply taking the stupid stuff? Why do they think the vaccine is a conspiracy then, how is it different than any other vaccine, peh.
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fred79
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posted August 26, 2021 01:31 AM |
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JollyJoker
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posted August 26, 2021 07:25 AM |
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That could be it: While being in the army, combat stims have made fred's brain hyper-active while he has also developed a paranoia against any form of injection. Maybe he even got experimental stuff, making him extremely paranoid.
Probably uncurable. Let's just hope he doesn't decide to "eliminate evil once and for all".
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