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artu
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posted May 07, 2021 01:00 AM |
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Edited by artu at 01:01, 07 May 2021.
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There is serious discussion about if the precautions are worth the harm they cause but the difference with the common cold is, covid-19 has a pretty long incubation period, and during this time, it’s not detectable yet contagious. So most epidemologists say the number of patients can multiply quite fast without the precautions, locking down healthcare services, ending in much more death than what we see today. Some countries tried herd immunity already, it didnt go well.
And of course, to conspire about all of this being orchestrated to vaccinate people to secretly take their biometrics or whatever (that is not transhumanism, transhumanism is when you advance human body with technology), you must presume that all of the countries and their official institutions handling contagions, their science boards etc, are in sync and all are in on it. China, Turkey, India, USA, Germany, Italy, Mongolia, the scientific community in general, they are all overblowing this to serve the conspiracy, destroying economic stability and social balance. It’s a pretty wild thing to believe in.
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fred79
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posted May 07, 2021 02:06 AM |
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they're in the open about everything. that's why none of you have any excuses why you can't see this snow. the dude ain't talking out of his ass. don't listen to me, or nimostar, fine. but the proof of all the snow going down is out there. they AREN'T hiding it.
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artu
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posted May 07, 2021 07:27 AM |
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Edited by artu at 07:30, 07 May 2021.
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@Nimostar
I see, you’ve added some (huge) visuals to your post. Once again, it is already known the Gates foundation donates to medical research, he is one of the richest people in the world. You take things that everybody already knows (coronaviruses already exist, pandemic means international contagion, Bill Gates donated money) and then make them sound like they support some absurd conclusion you arrived at. The very idea that people wouldnt know these things or wouldnt bother to check them out, so that’s how the conspiracy is able to work is so ignorantly far-fetched, it kind of leaves one speechless. All factual detail regarding your “biometrics” can be found in the link below. Not that I’ve seen conspiracy lovers ever change their mind with facts but still, this is a big issue, preventing disinformation is important since it’s literally a matter of life and death. Link
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blob2
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posted May 07, 2021 08:36 AM |
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Yet no one (mostly) wants to be that 0.XX% 
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posted May 07, 2021 02:41 PM |
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NimoStar said:
It's not true "this is the first poandemic" or such nonsense. Read the literal definition of "pandemic"; it's just a disease that affects more than one country. There are multiple global diseases at any given time.
This is not the definition of a pandemic.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 07, 2021 07:49 PM |
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NimoStar said:
The "deadly virus" has a 0,26% death rate at max (that's the official US estimate BTW, and US is one of the countries with most deaths)
So yes, it's overblown extremely. In fact, WHO estimated that up to 650,000 people die from the common flu every year. So basically four years of common flu is equal to the "covid pandemic". If "some pandemics are more serious", this is definitely not it.
Not even 0,1% of the global population have died. In comparison up to 35% of the whole european population died from the Black Death.
Complete nonsense. The death rate is 2.4% in Germany. Even if you have double as many people infected as the official numbers, the death rate is MUCH higher than .26%.
THEN the cases and deaths are IN SPITE OF all those measures and lockdowns and whatnot. Without that, well, look to countries like India and Brazil.
Then there is "long covid". Surviving this isn't the same than being healthy again for a significant percentage of the infected (and think about the strain for the system when people are 6 months ill).
Then there is the amount of cases that needs hospital treatment, costing money again.
Covid is no joke, because it's so infectious even when people have no symptoms (yet). Imagine influenza would work the same way - highly infectious without symptoms and everyone would get it...
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NimoStar
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posted May 08, 2021 06:39 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 18:43, 08 May 2021.
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The death rate isn't much higher. Indeed it is lower. You seriously need to research statistics.
Just because there is some % of cases that are known and have dies doesn't mean that is the total % of infected.
only like 10% of the poipulation are ever tested,
2/3 rds of the cases are asymptomatic.
https://www.medtechdive.com/news/abbott-antigen-test-misses-two-thirds-of-covid-19-asymptomatic-cases-cdc/593710/
Meaning,. there is a 66% of NOTHING happening even if you catch the """"deadly virus"""".
COVID is practically indistinguishable from the common cold.
I for one don't trust maker of Windows to be a great philanthropist that cares about humanity. He doesn't even care enough to make a non snow OS full of DRM and spyware.
In other words, if I can't trust William Henry Gates the Third with my software (and we know for a fact it can't be trusted), how will I trust him with my body and health?
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artu
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posted May 08, 2021 06:48 PM |
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You dont have to believe Bill Gates does what he does, because he is so kind hearted. To conclude he inserts chips inside of people, because he isnt kind hearted is tragic though.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2021 07:04 PM |
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I don't know in which hell hole you live, Nimo Star, but in most European countries at this time you need a negative test to do ANYTHING. Also everyone CAN test for no cost, so people have good reason to test - or sit at home - AND don't have to pay for it.
Second thing is - the virus has mutated. Where last year mostly old people would die and no young, NOW younger people die.
Plus, you ignore the long-time effects and the fact that a high percentage needs intensive care at this point.
All in all you are badly misinformed.
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2021 08:05 PM |
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as usual people have the audacity to claim anyone is misinformed when they refuse to gather information beyond the scope of their handlers.
i hope every one of you get vaccinated with the "experimiental" "vaccines" available. i hope none of you question why they have already insulated themselves legally against any possible lawsuits stemming from "side effects" up to and including death, that may hinder the "vaccinated".
please, please, go get your shots. for the health of society. 
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NimoStar
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posted May 08, 2021 08:26 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 20:32, 08 May 2021.
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he inserts chips inside of people, because he isnt kind hearted is tragic though.
Nazis labeled people for life with tatoos. Of course Bill Gates isn't inserting chips - yet. There needs to be a buildup for that.
But there is this, so we are in a good road, eh?
European comission vaccine passports (European Comission official site)
Also, to claim you need a test to do ANYTHING and at the same time nooo, there is no control? Such cognitive dissonance.
That the person that installs spyware on your computer wants to track you is so inconceivable? He said so himself:
Gates Foundation identifies biometrics as one pillar of tech “trinity” for digital inclusion Sep 17, 2019 (pro biometrics page)
Israel National News confirms COVID 0,26% death rate from USA CDC
You do not need to believe me. These are official figures. Your fear is not based on evidence. I am yet to see any of your sources. These aren't Alex Jones webs. These are the very people you claim to be on your side, saying exactly what I am saying.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2021 08:31 PM |
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Dude, what you cited is a year old. 
Go and spam somewhere else.
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NimoStar
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posted May 08, 2021 08:35 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 20:48, 08 May 2021.
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And what you cited is nothing. You call information spam.
This is now from OFFICIAL STATISTICS
Confirmed and tested cases, World 158,092,431
Deaths with COVID, world 3,291,489
3 million / 158 million = 0.018
0.01 INFECTED DEATH RATE
I TRIPLE CHECKED
do the maths yourself.
PS: Also, while deaths are overestimated since it is "anyone who dies and tested positive" (so, doesn't count comorbity which has the largest share, with over 70% of dead being over 65 years old), infections are extremely underestimated. Most countries of the world have only a handful of tested per million population.
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Salamandre
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posted May 08, 2021 08:48 PM |
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And that is only from confirmed case, which means severe symptoms, otherwise you don't test - add the asymptomatics and you go much lower.
JJ claiming you need to test in Europe to do anything, is not true at all. You are required to test only when applying for hospital care, thats the only time I had to test, in 1 year and half of going here and there, even abroad.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2021 09:12 PM |
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Lol, Nimo Star doesn't know what PERCENT actually means - and Salamandre finds it right?
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Confirmed and tested cases, World 158,092,431
Deaths with COVID, world 3,291,489
3 million / 158 million = 0.018
Which equals 1.8 %. If you know what percentage actually means.
This is still without the people suffering long-term damage and without the people who die NOT OF Covid, but BECAUSE of it, since they aren't properly treated due to missing capacities. So
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Neraus
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posted May 08, 2021 09:13 PM |
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I never had to do a test, and I go to class in person, take buses and in general I'm "active" for someone in lockdown.
And we're talking one of the most restricted countries, which is Italy.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 08, 2021 09:18 PM |
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Salamandre said:
And that is only from confirmed case, which means severe symptoms, otherwise you don't test - add the asymptomatics and you go much lower.
JJ claiming you need to test in Europe to do anything, is not true at all. You are required to test only when applying for hospital care, thats the only time I had to test, in 1 year and half of going here and there, even abroad.
Look, in Germany I need a negative test when I want to buy something except the standard "life-supporting stuff", when I want to go to a hairdresser and so on, I need a test when I want to enter another country, I need to test when I want to stay in a hotel, I ned to test when I return to my country - and the same applies to Italy where I currently am on holiday, with the exception that where I am you can only go into a restaurant with a test (as opposed to be served outside) and you can visit cultural stuff or use cable cars.
We also HAD TO test visiting nursing homes (not now, since everyone in there has been vaccinated), and I've been tested something like a dozen times within the last couple of months.
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fred79
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posted May 08, 2021 09:48 PM |
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@jj: well, you got that far. good. now take those intrusions on your person and add what their goal is. unless you have no capability of foresight? unless maybe you don't really understand who it is you're up against?
there's a saying: that you can't just throw a frog into boiling water; because it'll hop out. in order to boil the frog, you put it in lukewarm water and gradually increase the heat, until the frog is boiled. it never felt the heat was a threat until it was too late.
the problem with people like you is, you don't even know you're in a pot; despite the fact there's evidence all around you that not only is there a pot full of frogs, but you're all slowly being boiled alive.
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artu
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posted May 08, 2021 10:08 PM |
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Fred, being self-aware, insight, is what comes first. Before you try to warn people about “boiled water” take a look at yourself. You have no sense of proportion to warn any other person about anything. Listen to people, they dont object because they are trying to trick you. You have no sense of proportion, “the plain truth” is not what you think it is.
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posted May 08, 2021 10:21 PM |
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