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artu
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posted August 27, 2021 08:45 AM |
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Edited by artu at 08:46, 27 Aug 2021.
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I had my shots before this monday anyway, like millions of other people. People who got them are not tricked into believing the vaccines had the usual standard approval (the FDA's in your country) as you imply and believe. We already know. Normally, vaccines take a few years, sometimes even more to get standard approval, except this is an emergency, hence they have Emergency Use Authorization. (They have still been tested of course, just not to the point of "we covered every single little detail over and over again.")
Hypothetically, this means there is a risk but it's much less than the risk of having covid in a severe, life threatening way. So it's a matter of comparing the odds. There is no trickery. Now, someone can say, well, I'll wait for the standard approval just in case, that would be one thing. But that is not what you're doing, you're implying there is a deliberate evil masterplan behind all this and the vaccines are a tool of deception. There is no such thing. There, hope it didnt take too loooong..
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Gandalf196
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posted August 27, 2021 12:30 PM |
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Hey, hey, hey
Discuss the data I just presented, tell me how that is not a warning sign against the so called third shot
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fred79
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posted August 27, 2021 03:30 PM |
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they run from truth. don't get your hopes up on them addressing anything proving them wrong. they avoid all of my points the same way, and have done so for years. the only thing they argue is what their masters told them to say.
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JollyJoker
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posted August 27, 2021 07:49 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
Hey, hey, hey
Discuss the data I just presented, tell me how that is not a warning sign against the so called third shot
Why would that be a warning sign against a third shot?
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Gandalf196
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posted August 27, 2021 08:09 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Gandalf196 said:
Hey, hey, hey
Discuss the data I just presented, tell me how that is not a warning sign against the so called third shot
Why would that be a warning sign against a third shot?
Well since it began, Israel went from 0.25 million daily deaths to 3 million, that is a 1100% increase
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artu
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posted August 27, 2021 08:26 PM |
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Edited by artu at 20:26, 27 Aug 2021.
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That is not a causality. And there is a new variant. Your own link says vaccinated are 2.5 times more protected.
@fred
Lucky for you, you dont have to run from it, you cant recognize the truth if it sat on your face.
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Gandalf196
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posted August 27, 2021 08:42 PM |
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artu said:
That is not a causality.
correlation does not imply causation, but that does not mean you can dismiss things the way you did. It is a reasonable hypothesis that the administration of the third dose may be the explanation for the recent (and enormous) increase in deaths.
artu said:
And there is a new variant.
Which is more transmissible, but less deadly.
artu said:
Your own link says vaccinated are 2.5 times more protected.
Well, if I am right, they are full of snow, ain't it?
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JollyJoker
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posted August 27, 2021 09:17 PM |
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That's all completely false.
Israel's problem has been that they had 60% of their pop vaccinated really fast - and then nothing, since the rest said, no, thanks. Then they opened up everything, and with delta being a lot more infectious, more people actually GOT infected.
Then there is the immune system which works less well, the older people are (which is actually the reason why people get "old age sicknesses"). That in turn means, vaccinations don't work as well as with younger people (the immune reaction is lower, and the protection is less). That in turn means, if they are infected, they are at greater risk to get seriously ill, even though they are vaccinated.
But the main thing is that the older people are the less risk of an adverse reaction there is.
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Salamandre
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posted August 27, 2021 09:25 PM |
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Top vaccination today, for a first shot. The doctor forgot to bring the vaccine so I wasted my time, go and forth. The mischievous globalists plan has some logistic hiccups.
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artu
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posted August 27, 2021 10:38 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
Well, if I am right, they are full of snow, ain't it?
Look, the death rate and the rate of the vaccinated among the dead are two different things. But they do come from the same official sources. So why do you prefer to believe one and not the other? Because it suits your narrative? And what is that exactly, that that there is no disease? Yet, you seem to acknowledge the deaths. Is it that there is a disease but the vaccines are some other thing? Why and what exactly? Billions of people are vaccinated, why cant anybody trace this other thing in our bodies?
And if you’ll presume whichever data you wish is fake, what are you going to base your opinion on, will you personally count the infected world wide, diagnose them yourself? All this non-sense results only in confusing and killing people.
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Galaad
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posted August 27, 2021 10:42 PM |
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fred79 said:
what do those two statements tell you? what do you glean from them?
No Fred, that is what I was asking you. I'm still waiting..
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fred79
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posted August 27, 2021 11:48 PM |
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Galaad said:
fred79 said:
what do those two statements tell you? what do you glean from them?
No Fred, that is what I was asking you. I'm still waiting..
i already told you, i'm not going to explain it to you. if you can't figure snow out from those two statements, then you cannot progress to the rest. this is some kindergarten snow. again, what do you glean from those two statements? just answer the question. it isn't hard to figure out that first step to understanding, at all. you're all being utterly ridiculous.
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artu
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posted August 28, 2021 12:17 AM |
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Edited by artu at 00:18, 28 Aug 2021.
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Well, obviously he is not asking you to explain it to him. He just wants you to clearly present your line of thinking and prove it's not just non-sensical noise. You know, like the time when Corribus kept asking you "what should the definiton of a vaccine be and what do you think they changed it to?" As a chemist, he wasnt asking you to teach him the definiton of a vaccine, he was just testing if you had any clue at all about what you were talking. Remember how you kept dodging and dodging that time, too. "I'm not going to spell it out for you" and all that bs. Please, do spell it out. Consider Galaad a five-year old, do help him please.
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Galaad
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posted August 28, 2021 04:22 PM |
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Fred : Covid does not kill that much
Galaad : Shows excess mortality graph
Fred : That graph is bogus, and contradicts cdc + who
Galaad : Shows about the same graph taken from cdc website
Fred : These two statements invalidate the graph
Galaad : How?
Fred : I'm not going to tell you.
Ok Fred.
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fred79
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posted August 28, 2021 04:40 PM |
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why are you so afraid to give me your answer to two sentences? is it because you don't have one? i'll bet that's it, isn't it?
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Galaad
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posted August 28, 2021 08:23 PM |
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Well, I understand exactly what it says and I do not see the problem. You obviously see something I don't, which is why I'm asking you to elaborate on your line of thought. You don't seem like you want to.
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JollyJoker
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posted August 28, 2021 08:25 PM |
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Galaad said:
...line of thought ...
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fred79
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posted August 28, 2021 08:34 PM |
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Galaad said:
Well, I understand exactly what it says and I do not see the problem. You obviously see something I don't, which is why I'm asking you to elaborate on your line of thought. You don't seem like you want to.
galaad: i know the answer, but i don't want to tell you.
fred: *doubt*
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Galaad
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posted August 28, 2021 08:42 PM |
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You do realize you are the one refusing to explain your own claim, right?
I ask you for the last time, how does these two statements invalidate the excess mortality graphs?
If you keep dodging I just have to assume you are unable to explain your own reasoning, which makes it more of a delusion.
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fred79
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posted August 28, 2021 08:53 PM |
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i've already stated my stance on it before, but you don't pay attention.
why are you continually dodging answering a simple question?
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