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thecastrated
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posted September 30, 2023 07:09 PM |
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NimoStar said:
heymlich said:
In fact other than being expensive without hota this is the only weakness I think of tower - their hero classes have terrible stat progression. Tho they can also overcompensate for that with Artifact Merchant (= more money)
Tower has the highest late game potential of all towns and Naga Queens only reinforce that point.
There is no point in arguing over a game. My post was finding clarification. The iPad autocorrected to he which does not mean someone’s language is poor.
Anyways, in the above you are clearly talking about money may you clarify this “ more money”?
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NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
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posted September 30, 2023 08:18 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 20:19, 30 Sep 2023.
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More money = more money that you need to recruit weekly creatures. Once your town is fully built you can continue getting extra money (extra towns, gold mines, regular mines, Dragon Utopias, treasures in hard to reach areas, etc.) - Then this money has to be sunk into something. Artifact Merchants towns have stuff that is worth buying for your main hero - Other towns have nowhere to place this extra income.
Common h3 issue in long games is money accumulation with nothing good to spend it. This why H4 has much less money, much more weekly cost compared to generation, buyable artifacts and consumable potions for all towns; NWC design.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2023 08:32 PM |
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Tower is not the only town with Artifact Merchant, Dungeon and Conflux also says hello.
What concerns me more about Tower is Level 5 guild + Library. With a bit of luck they might get both Fly and DD in the same Mage Guild and maybe Town Portal, Resurrection and Meteor Shower/Chain Lightning. Compare that to Stronghold and Fortress, which have 100% chance to get 0 of those spells.
Conflux Magic University, Dungeons Mana Vortex and Castles Stables are also extremely powerful buildings.
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thecastrated
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posted September 30, 2023 08:53 PM |
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No way to spend the money? In those huge maps months 5 Scenario you are talking about won’t there usually be the option to build a second town?
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heymlich
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posted September 30, 2023 08:54 PM |
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Edited by heymlich at 20:55, 30 Sep 2023.
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Phoenix4ever said:
What concerns me more about Tower is Level 5 guild + Library. With a bit of luck they might get both Fly and DD in the same Mage Guild and maybe Town Portal, Resurrection and Meteor Shower/Chain Lightning.
Unfortunately, luck is a b itch. At least if you play without the map breaking spells, tower usually gets horrible spell selections.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted September 30, 2023 09:12 PM |
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Which spells do you consider map breaking?
Town Portal is without a doubt the best spell in the game. Then follows DD, I only allow it once per day and it's still great. Third best would then be Fly, unless you get Angel Wings for a O mana Expert Fly every day. (Also insane.)
Of course if you disable Fly and DD Library is not that great, though that would improve your chances of getting Implosion, which is also an awesome spell.
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted September 30, 2023 09:54 PM |
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Personally, I think the level 6 creatures is where the creatures are most in line when compared to others, making a poll like this most interesting. Despite there being clearly worse creatures such as Wyverns, the fact that you get them so early makes them a lot better due their ability to creep lower level creatures, and whereas the Manticores
also seem weak, Dungeon can simply do Dungeon things and grab more tier 6 units using their portal, having +4 on the second week is a big advantage.
Voted for Dread Knights.
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thecastrated
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posted September 30, 2023 10:34 PM |
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The portal can we choose which creature we want? Also even if Dungeon get plus 2 plus 2 how it overcomes no Castle or no dragon lair pick one week one
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Thecastrated
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posted September 30, 2023 10:55 PM |
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Random but does it change every week or month? But does every map have dragon dwelling?
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted September 30, 2023 11:02 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 23:08, 30 Sep 2023.
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And this is the key to success in Mutare campaign. Also it's a good idea when playing online for Dungeon to delay capturing low-level dwellings to the very end of a week. Actually, it's a bad design. You want more powerful monster, you should get it. That's how it should work. But HoMM was never shared the idea of winning now. Most players will not understand me now, but... HoMM is designed so that you have to play 1000+ games to understand if you are winning. Do you catch the core of this idea? Alas, nowadays, people want battle badges after just a single party. And all those talks about balance is just talks about how to feel yourself a winner after playing just a single game.
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heymlich
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posted October 01, 2023 10:16 PM |
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Edited by heymlich at 22:16, 01 Oct 2023.
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AlexSpl said:
And all those talks about balance is just talks about how to feel yourself a winner after playing just a single game.
Balance is necessary for multi player. In single player, it is rather harmful, since it makes games boring.
Unfortunately, MP players are heavily overrepresented in Forums, that's why there is so much talk about balancing.
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LordCameron
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posted October 02, 2023 12:41 AM |
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heymlich said:
AlexSpl said:
And all those talks about balance is just talks about how to feel yourself a winner after playing just a single game.
Balance is necessary for multi player. In single player, it is rather harmful, since it makes games boring.
Unfortunately, MP players are heavily overrepresented in Forums, that's why there is so much talk about balancing.
I think it's even kinda overrated for multiplayer. Look at the Super Smash Bros Melee community. They've slowly made 75% of the cast valid over the years just learning new things to do with the exact same characters
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NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
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posted October 02, 2023 03:07 AM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 03:10, 02 Oct 2023.
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how to feel yourself a winner after playing just a single game.
Well, what about if I feel the game was made with that exact idea.
You get a super cool cinematic with a Red Dragon burning everything at the screen, put on top of a huge pile of gold and treasure
Then you get immediately absconded to a hall of fame. Yes, after winning "just" a single game. Winning a single game is huge. I remember how cool that screen was as a kid, basically the best part of the game cinematically speaking.
And if you lose a single game? You get beheaded with a guillotine by a masked executioner. With dead trees in a red desolate dusk, while ominous music plays amongst burning torches. Also a huge deal if you ask me.
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heymlich
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posted October 02, 2023 06:15 AM |
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NimoStar said:
And if you lose a single game? You get beheaded with a guillotine by a masked executioner. With dead trees in a red desolate dusk, while ominous music plays amongst burning torches.
Really? I've never seen that one 
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 02, 2023 08:34 AM |
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heymlich said:
NimoStar said:
And if you lose a single game? You get beheaded with a guillotine by a masked executioner. With dead trees in a red desolate dusk, while ominous music plays amongst burning torches.
Really? I've never seen that one
I've seen it many times , especially when losing the campaign hero which meant instant defeat.
That music still frightens me.
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heymlich
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posted October 02, 2023 09:22 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
I've seen it many times , especially when losing the campaign hero which meant instant defeat.
Oh. I played thousands of scenarios, but I never played the campaigns. Except for the very first one, which was tiring and boring.
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bloodsucker
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posted October 03, 2023 08:17 PM |
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NimoStar said:
The map version is "black market", it doesn't interact with In-town Artifact Merchant. It is much cheaper by default.
Black Market works similar to the other market related buildings. As you know, you need 5 marketplaces to get the same value you get from a Trading Post but if you have more then 5 it gets cheaper and cheaper till you get 8 marketplaces.
Well, the same goes for the Artifact Merchants and the Freelancers Guild but not for Grotto, something I've been a little "phoenix" about when HotA development was still a thing...
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heymlich
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posted October 04, 2023 03:05 AM |
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Edited by heymlich at 03:06, 04 Oct 2023.
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However, the black market doesn't replenish it's goods. It's more like a treasure pile where you have to pay. Or let an AI hero go there and then kill him
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted October 04, 2023 12:43 PM |
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heymlich said:
Drakon-Deus said:
I've seen it many times , especially when losing the campaign hero which meant instant defeat.
Oh. I played thousands of scenarios, but I never played the campaigns. Except for the very first one, which was tiring and boring.
Oh I see. You could give the expansion (Shadow of Death or Armageddon's Blade) campaigns a go, if you ever feel like it. They're much more fun.
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