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Pollo2002
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2024 07:35 AM |
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How is hero chaining an exploit?
Making troops walk 7 days worth of walking seems the definition of exploit.
Yes ï mean the kind of fog of war where you can see terrain but not heroes.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted September 12, 2024 10:31 AM |
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Pollo2002] said:
Making troops walk 7 days worth of walking seems the definition of exploit.
I agree. Maybe placing it behind a requirement, like a powerful spell or something similar, could make it feel less like an exploit. Ideas ?
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MurlocAggroB
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 12, 2024 06:20 PM |
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It's not an exploit if it's something allowed by normal game mechanics. Playing good is not an exploit. It's just strategy, just like making your hero faster by garrisoning your slow creatures at the end of the day. Every player and every town can hero chain. I understand there is a casual vs. competitive argument, and I say this as someone who has no desire to play this series against real people, but if you're not gonna use basic strategies then you don't get the rewards those strategies open.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted September 12, 2024 06:26 PM |
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Chaining is an unfortunate side effect of the game, I'd be more than happy to see it gone/nerfed
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Pollo2002
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2024 07:24 PM |
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MurlocAggroB said:
It's not an exploit if it's something allowed by normal game mechanics. Playing good is not an exploit. It's just strategy, just like making your hero faster by garrisoning your slow creatures at the end of the day. Every player and every town can hero chain. I understand there is a casual vs. competitive argument, and I say this as someone who has no desire to play this series against real people, but if you're not gonna use basic strategies then you don't get the rewards those strategies open.
Garrison your units to make your hero faster is also a clear exploit.
The designer realized this and removed all these exploits in heroes 4, sadly heroes 4 sucked at everything else.
But the good things heroes 4 did was in fact remove all exploits of heroes 3 (regardless if it introduced others by mistakes) and add true fog of war.
Sadly the bad things it did could entail several paragraphs, shadowing those good things.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted September 12, 2024 07:49 PM |
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@pollo2002
Good you already know. Now you understand Hit & Run can't do blocking. There is no such program.
EDIT
Heroes IV 
Which is more difficult H3 or H4?
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