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posted October 30, 2024 04:31 PM |
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Says who? Not his generals - which is why he wished he had Hitler's guys. You know: total obedience.
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posted October 30, 2024 04:52 PM |
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I think it will be a Trump win and that the Secret Service is going to need to do their job extra well for the next 4 years.
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posted October 30, 2024 05:22 PM |
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Hard times are looming this way or that: If Trump wins, he will immediately put forth his executive oder which allowed him to fire public servants and replace them with loyal followers (which will go through) - and I suppose this won't be the only thing Trump will start. This will doubtlessly create a lot of tension.
If Harris wins that fact alone will create a lot of tension.
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posted October 30, 2024 05:30 PM |
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Blizzard said:
Secret Service is going to need to do their job extra well for the next 4 years.
Maybe a job for Ghost.
If Elon is let loose on the federal gov, cut all the pork (federal employees) the world will shake in terror.
Like in Colonization when you destroy the indian capital they bow to your glory.
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posted October 30, 2024 09:42 PM |
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I would bet on Kamala, same as Arnie hopes.
Elon is not saint, pretty confused albeit daring and creative.
So where will be promised cheap Tesla? Nowhere, promise abandoned for money.
So, what about hyperloop? Impossible, says Elon. Albeit somewhere they did it experimentally, real is in construction.
He says Tesla but lives like Edison. That's a business dear purchaser.
He sales Starlink, ..to both sides. And he adore Putin, as a mind shortcut.
In the very end, man like anyone else.
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posted October 31, 2024 05:27 AM |
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Funny, when Trump was voting democrats while gulping down pinatas with the Clintons and the Bidens, giving millions in contribution, everyone was in awe : he was the American dream best example. Same for Musk when he shared Starlink with Ukraine, for Free, and as long as he remained politically neutral.
Now that the richest and the smartest guy in the Milky Way is cherishing Trump, Hitler, Putin, Mussolini, Dark Vador and Freddy Kruger, he is just a "man like anyone else".
Such goes life and feelings in bamboozle land. ^^
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posted October 31, 2024 04:06 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Funny, when Trump was voting democrats while gulping down pinatas with the Clintons and the Bidens, giving millions in contribution, everyone was in awe : he was the American dream best example. Same for Musk when he shared Starlink with Ukraine, for Free, and as long as he remained politically neutral.
Now that the richest and the smartest guy in the Milky Way is cherishing Trump, Hitler, Putin, Mussolini, Dark Vador and Freddy Kruger, he is just a "man like anyone else".
Such goes life and feelings in bamboozle land. ^^
Yes, that had to be expected. Elon went from businessman to politician.
BTW Trump always wanted to be a president, it was his dream last 40 years. At least.
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Again, for about half the country that is true and for half the country it isn't. Elon is now much more popular in addition to being hated by more people.
Anybody who comes out of the closet with their political views is always going to become more popular and also a more hated person. Mark Cuban has vocally supported Harris and now a lot of people hate him. Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) platformed on stage for Biden back in the summer and he is also hated by a lot of people now.
Basically, if you want to avoid people loving and hating you, you need to stay in the closet when it comes to politics, i.e. Tom Cruise.
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posted October 31, 2024 05:33 PM |
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Pol said:
BTW Trump always wanted to be a president, it was his dream last 40 years. At least.
On what you base such affirmations?
Those are the interviews with the young Trump (1987 - CNN, 1988 - Oprah, 1988 - Letterman, 1991 - Playboy, 1999 - Larry King) where he show his total disinterest for the function when asked, describing the job as requiring a "mean life" and the election pattern as too much driven by physical qualities over intellectual ones. So, it looks like his run in 2016 is more of an accidental and opportunistic pick than a long time settled plan, for which there is zero evidence right now.
And the irony is that all those people who kept asking him to run for the function because he would be the best one (just watch the interviews), when he was voting democrats of course, are the same ones today barking he shouldn't have done it in 2016 as he was "not fit for".
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Of course I'm aware of that, didn't you detect any stretch of sarcasm in my post ? Bamboozled land = democrats (only) perception of reality. 
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posted October 31, 2024 09:03 PM |
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I had no idea what that meant.
Anyway, the point is, the country is pretty much split down the middle, and social media has elevated the division to make it more intense. Lots and lots of fuel to stoke the flames.
So, if somebody publicly supports Trump, like Elon, then he will be hated by a lot of people. If someday does the same thing for Harris, they will also be hated by a lot of people. There isn't really a noticeable power differential between the two sides. "Conventional" media mostly supports Harris, but conservatives have a massive presence on newer online platforms now, so it's no longer such a big deal who the conventional media support.
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posted November 01, 2024 12:18 AM |
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Well, there is hate and hate. So far, there were three attempts to assassinate Trump, while I don't recall any about Harris or Biden.
But you are right, no matter who wins the election, there will be major unrest across the country, possibly civil war. In EU, the medias prepare us to upcoming events, by negatively portraying Trump ans his supporters in 100% of articles. That way, if Trump wins and America goes through fire and sword, we are more resilient. After all, who wouldn't want to get rid of Hitler and his minions, right?
We had Hillary calling them "deplorable", now Biden calling them as "floating garbage", last week. Sure, Trump has harsh words also, but only for his political opponents, never for Americans as a whole.
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posted November 01, 2024 10:04 AM |
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You hear just what you want to hear.
Trump has had enough harsh words (and deeds) for half of the population in general and for everyone not white - but since he's quite obviously a narcissist and a liar, his words don't mean anything at all
He's a criminal and shouldn't even be allowed to apply for the office (or ANY public office).
The fact that he CAN and DOES, doesn't change that. That he's a well-known personality and allegedly rich SHOULDN'T change that either, but seemingly does. As shouldn't that fact that he's already been president once. Abusing a public office shouldn't lead to being more equal than other people.
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posted November 01, 2024 10:59 AM |
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So back to the times, when in half of "EU" was golden communist era, Trump was traveling here, for business trips, visiting embassy. And he mentioned it.
And it remained in reports of diplomats and secret services. He was considering it a few times before but gave up, as his chances were low.
This is kind of public secret in Central Europe.
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posted November 02, 2024 03:25 PM |
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Let's stick to facts, not to fiction. The only job Donald Trump ever dreamed of is working at McDonald. And HERE is the proof.
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posted November 02, 2024 05:01 PM |
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Yes, that explains a lot in your view.
But fact, that you can google his previous talks, doesn't make it more true. Go to library, find the diplomats, read their memoirs, it's here. And it's official.
It's about you to convince yourself. Not about me, I won't bother with it any more.
If you can find it in Google, it doesn't make it a whole story, neither true or false by itself. It's just indexing machine with some preferences.
Honestly you do remind me a lot these people, who are willing to quarrel over existence of "Central Europe", as they learned in the school wrongly, that there's only East. You can't move without forming your own opinion.
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posted November 02, 2024 05:49 PM |
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I don't even understand what's about, why it irritates you so much that Trump always wanted to be president. So what.
I got it, you guys can't tolerate anyone not hating Trump (and Putin) to the extent you do, ok. But at least come with something more valuable than those eternal and stupid reductio ad hitlerum or other empty talk, like this one about what Trump wanted when he was 6 months old, or Musk being retrograded in your view because he talks politics.
This is nonsense, politics need precisely smart people who made it, so they can extend their successful experience to the nation interests as a whole. There are so few of them.
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posted November 02, 2024 06:06 PM |
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That's wrong in more than one respect. Trump isn't exactly hated - he's instead the perfect example for the kind of people usually EVERYONE detests: he's someone who gets away with things, both as a politician and as a "rich guy", regular people don't.
Clinton got in trouble precisely because of things Trump is notorious for: abusing his position to get sexual "favors" from dependents - and lying. Media crucified him because of it and he was (unsuccesfully) impeached (because of lying).
Personally I think that people who LIKE Trump are not people I would want to live with in the same street, not to mention in the same house - that includes people who would vote for a scumbag like him.
Which includes Elon Musk. That simple.
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posted November 02, 2024 06:15 PM |
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Let's hope americans are smarter and more open minded than that, regardless who wins. Otherwise dark times are to expect.
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posted November 02, 2024 06:39 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Let's hope americans are smarter and more open minded than that, regardless who wins. Otherwise dark times are to expect.
Smarter and more open-minded than what? Voting openly criminal people and repeat offenders into high offices? Yep, sure. Drawing a line, when Democracy itself and important human rights are on the line? Certainly. Anything else?
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posted November 02, 2024 10:33 PM |
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You, calling it a fantasy. What I don't know is why you are objecting against the fact, the Trump always wanted to be a president. There's nothing bad about it.
(And actually it's not bad even if you don't believe me.)
It's somewhat normal, that opponets hear to each other and if one comes with something profoundly good, the other party adopts it. This is why is imporant discussion, so you can explain your ideas.
And therefore in some cases doesn't matter who exactly wins, as s/he can adopt the accepted part from the opposing party.
So, what is bad about Trump? Foremostly he's trying to remove right to abortion from a women.
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