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Thread: Possible Creature [ This thread is 246 pages long: 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 ]
Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted April 16, 2003 01:08 PM

He's got a point.
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posted April 16, 2003 01:26 PM

1)OK, you are right. But surely not venomous spit AND poison breath at the same time?

2)Yeah, why would summoned stacks be a problem? There are Santa Gremlins and several similar scripts, right?


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Lord_Woock
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posted April 16, 2003 02:16 PM

Um, not both of them at the same time! We'd pick the one that's most popular.
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Arstahd
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posted April 16, 2003 05:44 PM

I forgot about the SG's, I guess something like that could be done. I have hardly ever had them in my armies, how does it work when they are in grouped formation, are any occupied hexes just not filled with guards?

I'm still not big on the idea though, I'd rather it shine on it's own and not rely on other creatures.

What do you think about this: Any creatures killed by the Dracolich can't be resurrected, they are permantently dead, their souls consumed.
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posted April 16, 2003 05:47 PM

Sounds good.

And if you want to overpower it as much as possible, you might as well resurrect those creatures as skeletons right away, without waiting for combat to finish .
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yasmiel
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posted April 16, 2003 05:52 PM
Edited By: yasmiel on 16 Apr 2003

I would like to see DEATH RIPPLE (40+ (ATT-DEF)*2 damage to all living units) as it's primary (ranged) attack and breath attack in melee.
...We should stop on lv.9  -- Azure should stay the sinonime for untouchable

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posted April 16, 2003 06:01 PM

Um, no. A Galthran with 15k skeletons will kill an azure any day of the week .
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posted April 16, 2003 06:05 PM

The skelies r coming!! NO!!! Run away!
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yasmiel
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posted April 16, 2003 06:05 PM

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Um, no. A Galthran with 15k skeletons will kill an azure any day of the week .

where will you get 15 000 skelies? My record is around 3k but I don't play necro much

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posted April 17, 2003 04:23 AM

Heh. My personal best is 61k on a custom map. But that was not the topic.

Please don't overpower Dracolich! As for its skills, I'm afraid it may end up as one of many dragons in WoG... And Lord knows we have enough of those. If you don't like the Liches idea ( I'm not too keen on it myself, although it would be a mighty sight ), give him something else. Disabling resurrection sounds fine. So do death ripple and raise skeletons...

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yasmiel
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posted April 17, 2003 02:10 PM
Edited By: yasmiel on 17 Apr 2003

stats (with little modifications):

Dracolich

Level: 8
Aligment: Evil
Health: 800
Shots: 2
Attack: 45
Defence: 40
Damage: 45(death ripple) or 35-75 melee
Speed: 15
Cost: 25000 + 10 Sulfur
Special: Undead, Death ripple(ranged), Breath Attack(melee), Poisonous breath, Flyer

Thanks,nything else missing?

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Lord_Woock
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posted April 17, 2003 02:13 PM

Um, why don't the Dracolich have damage?
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Arstahd
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posted April 17, 2003 05:48 PM

Another idea that I have in mind is to add an upgrade for most of the neutral creatures, any thoughts on abilities?

Some preliminary concepts:

Rogue: Rogue Captain, Scout, Pathfinder
Mummy: Royal Mummy, Mummy Lord
Boar: Wildrider, Razorback
Nomad: Desert Raider, Nomad Archer
Troll: Cave Troll, Stone Troll, Black Troll
Enchanter: Master Enchanter
Halfling: Halfling Slinger
Peasant: Militiaman
Gorynych: Chaos Dragon, Pyronych
Nightmare: Hell Steed


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posted April 18, 2003 05:32 AM

Quote:
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Another idea that I have in mind is to add an upgrade for most of the neutral creatures, any thoughts on abilities?

Some preliminary concepts:

Rogue: Rogue Captain, Scout, Pathfinder
Mummy: Royal Mummy, Mummy Lord
Boar: Wildrider, Razorback
Nomad: Desert Raider, Nomad Archer
Troll: Cave Troll, Stone Troll, Black Troll
Enchanter: Master Enchanter
Halfling: Halfling Slinger
Peasant: Militiaman
Gorynych: Chaos Dragon, Pyronych
Nightmare: Hell Steed
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I've waited my whole life for this!

I LUV IT!!!

I'm not sure about all the names (and skills?!), but the idea is awesome!



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Lord_Woock
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posted April 18, 2003 10:06 AM

Quote:
Nightmare: Hell Steed


I suggest Binky . Discworld fans should understand lol.
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Arstahd
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posted April 18, 2003 05:58 PM

Quote:
I've waited my whole life for this!

I LUV IT!!!

I'm not sure about all the names (and skills?!), but the idea is awesome!





They're just some names off of the top of my head, if you have better ones let me know.


PS
I think the Binky reference is a bit too vague Lord Woock, I've never read the Discworld series either.
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WaY2HeLL
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posted April 18, 2003 06:01 PM

why not put all of cratures from heroes 1,2 $ 4 in WoG??
there was a great cratures in those games like wolfs, tigers and so on
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posted April 18, 2003 06:09 PM

To clear out any misunderstandings... In the Discworld, Binky is the name of Death's horse.
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posted April 18, 2003 06:17 PM

Because of copyright problems.  Anything added to WoG has to be new or changed.  Hate to see us use a creature from h1 h2 or h4 and get shut down.
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posted April 18, 2003 07:01 PM

Not only that, I'm fairly certain that H3 uses an 8 bit register to store creature numbers limiting the max number to 256. Currently there are over 180 used in WoG, so adding that many new creatures is out of the question.
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