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vesuvius
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posted June 16, 2003 05:55 AM |
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Anyone want to fathom a guess that if homm5 ever comes true, that chaining will be back?
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Jinxer
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posted June 17, 2003 02:19 AM |
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If Chaining is back in Heroes 5...... Jinxer wont be.
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Aculias
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posted June 17, 2003 03:31 AM |
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The game could be greater then both heroes games combined & he still wont play because of a Chaining chore 
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Lith-Maethor
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posted June 17, 2003 03:34 AM |
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unless I missed a few episodes...
you guys seem to forget that 3DO went fubar and the future of NWC is unknown at best...
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Sir_Stiven
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posted June 17, 2003 03:42 AM |
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If Chaining is back in Heroes 5...... Jinxer wont be.
Wow... two good things for the prize of one! 
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 17, 2003 05:06 AM |
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you guys seem to forget that 3DO went fubar and the future of NWC is unknown at best...
come now... do you really think no one will pick up NWC and the HOMM franchise? i find that unlikely.
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Aculias
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posted June 17, 2003 05:27 AM |
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what about the players though I mean like Warcraft & some other games got 1000's of players & heroes got a few hundred or so etc.
Do you think they will still want to continue the Heroes saga
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 18, 2003 01:38 AM |
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what about the players though I mean like Warcraft & some other games got 1000's of players & heroes got a few hundred or so etc.
Do you think they will still want to continue the Heroes saga
ah, the common misconception of lots of MP players. they think they are the only homm players
there are thousands of homm players, but only a few hundred play the game online. many bought the game to only play in SP.
and the other common misconception by many MP players is that H4 was a failure. indeed many feel it was a worse game than h3, however on the financial plane, h4 sold many more copies than h3. so i dont see why companies wouldnt be interested... it is a game that just increased in sales in the latest installment. if someone buys NWC and HOMM i have 2 major hopes for what they will do: first and foremost I hope they try to make H5 a more MP-friendly game. maybe set up a battle.net type thing (or, just go back to using the zone instead of gamespy ). if they can get NWC to concentrate on the MP aspects more, especially getting turn transfer times back to how they were in h3, then i think h5 could have an improved MP following over h4 and h3. especially if the game is good enough to rejoin the h3 and h4 players, as many have hoped. considering JVC said that h5 will be moving towards "strategy" and away from "RPG" then that sounds very encouraging for us, since MP is more about strategy than rpg. My second hope is that the expansion packs will actually be worth buying. Even as great as the HoMM games are, I could really use something to revitalize my interest in the game. This is what companies make expansion packs for, of course. however 3do's exp packs did not do this.. all they did was add some maps and campaigns and throw in a handful of creatures. I hope the new company(whomever it may be) makes big additions... i.e. 2 new alignments.
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mklthrkngl
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posted June 18, 2003 05:40 AM |
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homm 4 a best seller
Unfortunately, blue camel is correct. In fact it was the amazing success of homm 4 that kept 3do up as long as it did. Didn't you guys notice the speed with which they rushed out those lame expansions? They was trying to milk the cow for all it was worth! Remember all the other homms? We waited and sweated for each expansion that came out, with homm4 they came out so fast i'm not even sure which is which or what order they came out in!! Also you've all seemed to have forgotten the game was the only M&M product to ever break the top 10 in sales and it sat in the top 20 for some time. I have the feeling with the success of games like the HOMM series and CIV games turn based strat. is far from dead. Even if HOMM finally dies it won't be long till someone realizes it was a winning formula and basicly resurrects the game style under a new name. Hopefully they'll see the merit of making it a more friendly online experience, even HOMM3 left much to be desired. As I remeber it, everybody hated the transfer speeds of homm3 till something worse, HOMM4, came along!! 
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GrunanCross
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posted June 18, 2003 06:33 AM |
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lol, but it was not the sales of h4 that kept 3do alive. 3do has been dieing for some time and the investors kept it afloat...lol
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 18, 2003 08:38 AM |
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well if you really know your "gaming history" you'd know that everything trip hawkins has ever touched has withered and died
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 18, 2003 08:41 AM |
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also, mthrngkl, why do you say it is "unfortunate" that h4 sold well??
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GrunanCross
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posted June 18, 2003 09:12 AM |
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lol, do i know my gaming history...lol. 3do fell cuz they make crap game.. and only a few good ones..
they tried to make h4 and the caused too much, madness, yes it sold well, but is NOT cuz it was good game, but cuz it was h4..the name, cuz it was h3 seq.
But when the games ex packs came out they where no good,
The fall of 3do was however not cuz of h4( had lots to do wif it) but it was the fact that 90% of there games came out one after another, and very quickly.
hehe, all those game that half of the ppl nevr bought nor even knew about.. cuz they where not properly promoted..
and thats the whole key "promot" u can make even a crap game like h4 sell wif promot...or u can use name....if anyone ever heres of a game called Final Fantasy come out chances are ull get it...no matter how lame it is just like that crap game mistiq quest lol every one bought it cuz it named Final Fantasy "Mistiq Quest
if it was named just mistiq quest then it would never sell, even though it was a pretty good game
All of the money made off of good game was in turn put into the fast relesing of crap 3do games,lol and then the thing is to promot sells of those games that where so badly selling and wif a lot of money going to that lol it slowly went under cuz of Black Isle and say some others lik ssl or Capcom..or how ever made Gran Theif Auto..games like Sims and also like Square Soft, but u understand what i mean..it was just a bad move, one that Sega made lol
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vesuvius
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posted June 18, 2003 10:02 AM |
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well if you really know your "gaming history" you'd know that everything trip hawkins has ever touched has withered and died
Very, Very True.
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 19, 2003 02:24 AM |
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yes it sold well, but is NOT cuz it was good game, but cuz it was h4..the name, cuz it was h3 seq.
hmm you sure on that one..?
if i recall gamespot (the most popular gaming site) gave h4 a rating of 8.8 which makes it one of the highest rated games on all of gamespot. obviously some people liked it
and anyway, i dont really understand your argument. h3 in its own right didnt sell that well. so why would that explain h4 selling really well due to the name ID of h3? by logic, a ton of the people who bought h4 had not bought h3.
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The fall of 3do was however not cuz of h4( had lots to do wif it)
i dont claim to know the situation, but i'll bet h4 had very little to do with it. instead i'd wager that the 100 different Army Men expansions that never sold helped a lot. also, if you go to their website (which is still up) you'll see a slew of games which are currently being developed, so they cost a lot of money, but have yet to return revinue since they haven't been released yet. I think 3do's eyes may have gotten bigger than their stomachs... just quickly glancing i see 2 more goddamned army men exp packs (lmao), "jacked", "four horsemen of apocolypse" (which looked promising, but likely had its healthy share of costs), "street racing syndicate", "cubix: showdown".
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mklthrkngl
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posted June 19, 2003 03:35 AM |
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why unfortunate?
Don't get me wrong Camel, I truly enjoyed the multi player aspects of the game. It was the problems with the game though that angered me. How it sold so much when most of the sales were to stand alone players who never played it online and how they managed this when the game has one of the worst A.I.'s in gaming history is beyond me. My argument is that if the sales had been poorer maybe they would have put more effort into fixing the multi aspects of the game as they did with HOMM3. We all remember how rough HOMM3 was when it first came out. Because of the sales success, there was no reason to fix it, like i said earlier, they just milked the cash cow instead. To bad, if they had truly put the effort into the game I think it could have been a much greater success then it was. Once again Trip dropped the ball.
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Blue_Camel
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posted June 19, 2003 04:30 AM |
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i agree. i hope you didnt get the impression that i thought h4 was good in SP mode just saying that some people seem to like it in SP.
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Jinxer
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posted June 19, 2003 04:57 AM |
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Kinda off topic.
Hows come BlueCamel can post here. But is never on GameSpy anymore?
You get Banned Camel?
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Aculias
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posted June 19, 2003 07:49 AM |
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Because he realized it was gayspying
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themany
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posted August 14, 2003 10:24 AM |
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Why chaining?
Use teleport on adventure map(HoMM3) town gate(both) or simply run to get back to town(in HoMM4). I like to chain fast units in H4 to see the opponent rushing for the artifact they are carrying 
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