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Gweret
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 08, 2011 02:02 PM |
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I'm still missing "digging" the ground and revealing the "grail map".
The best feature in all heroes games ever.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 08, 2011 04:51 PM |
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What annoyed me about the grail maps was the fact that you didn't actually find it until the game was pretty much decided anyway, so going to all those obelisks and then digging everywhere seemed kind of pointless.
Those grail buildings do look pretty neat, though.
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Anna
Adventuring Hero
Dazzling Light Incarnation
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posted October 08, 2011 04:55 PM |
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Quote: Turns out that the tear of Asha(grail) shows on the adventure map when you upgrade your town! If I am not mistaken there are more than one ways of getting a tear of Asha other than collecting the Fragments of the Moon Disk - as opposed to visiting the obelisks in the past - so this should be interesting. One of my personal pet peeves on maps containing the grail was that the first to get it would have a ridiculous advantage, however if your opponent could get it too..
I just hope the AI will be smart enough to upgrade its town once it gets the Tear of Asha.
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted October 08, 2011 05:05 PM |
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Quote: One of my personal pet peeves on maps containing the grail was that the first to get it would have a ridiculous advantage, however if your opponent could get it too..
YES!! I have also missed the grail aspect in multiplayer, it seems we may have a new dimension there now Cool
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted October 08, 2011 05:13 PM |
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Quote: What annoyed me about the grail maps was the fact that you didn't actually find it until the game was pretty much decided anyway, so going to all those obelisks and then digging everywhere seemed kind of pointless.
Those grail buildings do look pretty neat, though.
Uhh, what grail buildings? All I see is a lightshow...
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 08, 2011 05:52 PM |
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They're buildings made of light, silly.
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LRN
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 08, 2011 06:12 PM |
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Quote: Turns out that the tear of Asha(grail) shows on the adventure map when you upgrade your town! If I am not mistaken there are more than one ways of getting a tear of Asha other than collecting the Fragments of the Moon Disk - as opposed to visiting the obelisks in the past - so this should be interesting. One of my personal pet peeves on maps containing the grail was that the first to get it would have a ridiculous advantage, however if your opponent could get it too..
Good news.
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Negativland
Promising
Adventuring Hero
but I'm not
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posted October 08, 2011 06:59 PM |
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Quote: I just hope the AI will be smart enough to upgrade its town once it gets the Tear of Asha.
IF he gets it at all I've played Tree of Plenty 1.4 with 3 humans vs 1 AI, all my human players got the ToA in the first month, and when I reached AI player (very late in the game, dragged it on purpose) he never even bothered to collect all the disc pieces And ofc after defeating him I couldn't build it myself, since it needs a capitol. I wonder if it can be sold at the marketplace and at what price
Btw here is the Haven ToA.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 08, 2011 07:02 PM |
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You sure? I don't see anything out of the extraordinary there.
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Negativland
Promising
Adventuring Hero
but I'm not
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posted October 08, 2011 07:11 PM |
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well, yep, it's pretty underwhelming. The fully built town w/o grail has some sort of cross on top of it, the archangel statue is the grail. At least that's all I noticed changing...
I'm playing Tree of Plenty again, I'll return tomorrow to confirm after I build all the structures.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 08, 2011 07:22 PM |
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fragments of the moon discs? that means you could steal them from enemy heroes just like artifacts?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 08, 2011 07:26 PM |
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I don't know many details on that yet.
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Anna
Adventuring Hero
Dazzling Light Incarnation
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posted October 08, 2011 08:24 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: I just hope the AI will be smart enough to upgrade its town once it gets the Tear of Asha.
IF he gets it at all I've played Tree of Plenty 1.4 with 3 humans vs 1 AI, all my human players got the ToA in the first month, and when I reached AI player (very late in the game, dragged it on purpose) he never even bothered to collect all the disc pieces
In the beta and the demo the AI is leaving behind a lot of the loot, so if the promised AI fixes are being done for the full game the AI might be capable of getting it.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 08, 2011 08:32 PM |
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Negativland
Promising
Adventuring Hero
but I'm not
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posted October 08, 2011 08:46 PM |
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back with updates on the Grail. Built for both Haven and Sanctuary and they show up.
first, let's take a little look at the ToA icons:
necro >
The statue in the thumbnail shows up when you build it (actually there are 4 of them) > screenshot
sanctuary >
A big serpentine statue (Shalassa I think) who pukes water > screenshot
haven >
An archangel seraph statue that looks the lamest on the adv map > screenshot
The problem with the haven grail that it shows up in the Town Window when you build fort III, but on the adv map it's actually a cross.
PS> I HATE not being able to take some decent screenshots because of the poor camera control! I hope they fix that someday.
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bonus, a hilarious bug: Anton (or at least it seems to be him) with bOObs!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 08, 2011 09:00 PM |
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Alright thanks I wanted to make sure that those were not part of the normal fully-built towns.
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted October 08, 2011 11:11 PM |
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All n' all, not any impressive. And I doubt they will change their designs with the new town screens because then they will have to change the models too.
Just because they wanted them to show on the adventure map's town model, they had to come up with something that would not make the town blow out of proportion. And the result is lacklusting to say in the least.
Who cares about how the town looks like on the map? If we wanna see how beautiful they are, that's what the Town Screens are for. On the map, you can have just the castle (or the hall if there are no walls) and it'll be all the same for us.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 08, 2011 11:17 PM |
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Well, supposedly you can base your strategies on what you see of your opponent's castles from the adventure map.
Because people pay attention to that stuff.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 08, 2011 11:26 PM |
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I don't know, I really like the idea of how being able to see how developed a town is, what the unique buildings are or if it has town portal. It may not necessarily help you much but it is a nice touch nonetheless.
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kodial79
Promising
Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted October 08, 2011 11:50 PM |
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It's not completely useless and it does make sense, I'll give it that much. But they could just make it so that if we right click over the town to get the same kind of info, if we wanted it, in text.
And that would give them the artistic freedom to make the grail buildings as impressive as they should be in the town screens.
But oh, I forget! They didn't want us to have town screens at all, at first.
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