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Minion
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posted November 08, 2014 12:51 AM |
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Yeah it is. But I have high expectations for this third part - as IIRC the trilogy goes from light to heavier themes, as in preparation to the LotR trilogy. Here's Jacksons quote _
-"We always saw The Hobbit more in the golden light of a fairytale. It's more playful. But by the time you get to the end, Tolkien is writing himself into that place where he can begin that epic journey of writing LOTR, which took, as he put it, his life's blood. All those heavier, darker themes which are so prevalent in the later trilogy start to come into play."
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xerox
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posted November 08, 2014 12:51 AM |
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Minion said: The Hobbit is a children's book, hence the cartoony approach.
But that's not how the movie is approached. Just look at the trailer above.
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 08, 2014 01:17 AM |
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God, you guys are such whiners!
Without movies like Hobbit, I would be bored to death. It's the best thing to happen fantasy-wise after the LotR trilogy. And it's a no-brainer that nothing will ever beat that trilogy, because the sheer shocks of filming and "unfilmable" movie was enough to make it and insta-classic. So what if Hobbit movies have some cliche elements, or old tricks and flicks. They are still so much better then the rest of the crap we're getting...
So just shut up and enjoy those movies...
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Zenofex
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posted November 08, 2014 08:28 AM |
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We won't. Just so we can see you write another fanboy post. Angry fanboys are one of the Pillars of Internetz, along with trolls, smartasses and anonymous superheroes, every forum needs some of them.
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 08, 2014 12:04 PM |
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Zenofex said: We won't. Just so we can see you write another fanboy post. Angry fanboys are one of the Pillars of Internetz, along with trolls, smartasses and anonymous superheroes, every forum needs some of them.
And so are home-made critics-of-everything...
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted November 08, 2014 01:56 PM |
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Critical thinking and analysis is what separates us—from the plebs.
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markkur
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Once upon a time
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posted November 08, 2014 04:43 PM |
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Here's some visual-art history.
Before all the visual effects of computers were put into the hands of most anyone with the cash, I think there were some amazing processes created before-hand.
Claymation is now an outdated mode of story-telling but to me it is still an amazing effort to watch; if it's done well. Just like Disney took general cartoon animation to new heights of invention; Will Vinton did the same in his working with Clay.
"Especially when you watch the face of Rip" = A picture, then a slight movement of the clay and then another pic...on and on for 20+ minutes of film. Vinson is amazing here. Btw, He later did the California Raisins of ad-fame.
Claymation
Rip Van Winkle (1978)by Will Vinton, {Academy Award Nominee}
Rip
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Corribus
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posted November 08, 2014 08:48 PM |
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Re: Claymation, I fondly remember Gumby as a child.
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xerox
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posted November 09, 2014 01:47 AM |
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Edited by xerox at 10:17, 09 Nov 2014.
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i reallyl ike the trailer of the new sci-fi movie star somehting
edit: sober xerox back, I meant Interstellar looks interesting
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markkur
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Once upon a time
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posted November 09, 2014 12:02 PM |
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Corribus said: Re: Claymation, I fondly remember Gumby as a child.
I had a younger friend that had the nickname. I had no clue but maybe you'd been in the know.
The first clay stuff I saw was Davey and Goliath iirc. Pretty horrible stuff but Shaun the sheep and Wallace and Gromit had to start somewhere I guess.
Btw find Buzz Box 1985. I never would have guessed clay could have captured my dislike of the media so well.
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kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
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posted November 09, 2014 06:32 PM |
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Corribus
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted November 09, 2014 07:11 PM |
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I watched The Counselor last night. Terrible, terrible movie. The only interesting part was the motorized garrote used to kill one of the main characters. Youtube that two minute scene and skip the rest.
Ridley Scott needs to seriously hire some better script writers for his movies. You'd think Cormac McCarthy would be up to the challenge, but I guess not.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted November 09, 2014 07:23 PM |
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+1. Most of the movie you have no idea why anybody is doing what they are doing and half the time you can't even be sure who they are exactly either. The acting and the production values were good and people seemed motivated by their work though, and most people in it usually take place in quality stuff. My guess is, the director had some original, interesting vision but the studio butchered the movie to squeeze it into some 120 minute format. There's no way something that confusing can be what Ridley Scott intended.
It was the same with Once Upon A Time in America and Sergio Leone. Before the real, long version came out, people who saw the 80's TV version were like "really Sergio, what the hell is this mess!"
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Corribus
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The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted November 09, 2014 07:32 PM |
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Yeah, it was really confusing. Long, drawn out conversations about nothing in particular, but few scenes actually showing what the hell was going on. Even now I still am not sure exactly what the drug deal was that set the whole thing up. Just really disappointing, with such a great cast.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 11, 2014 09:59 AM |
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Finally watched natural born killers. Absolutely loved it
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JoonasTo
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted November 11, 2014 10:18 AM |
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted November 11, 2014 10:43 AM |
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Edited by artu at 15:51, 11 Nov 2014.
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Oliver Stone movies are usually good but never great, in my opinion. There's something missing, I'd say ideological liberalism (which is okay with me) trumps over artistic depth and his messages are always a poke in the eye. I wonder, how the movie would have turned out, if Tarantino could direct it, which was his original intention. The subject is definitely his turf and he's still cast as one of the writers. This is what he says about the movie:
Taken from Peary's 1998 book, in an interview with David Wild in late 1994, Tarantino was asked if he had seen the film. He replied, "No. It's just kind of out there and it doesn't have anything to do with me. I don't think I'll get much credit, and I don't think I'll get much blame. I'm definitely not looking for either. If you like it, then that's Oliver. If you don't like it, that's Oliver too."
More recently, while promoting Grindhouse on a talk radio show in 2007, Tarantino stated that when he sat down to watch the film, he was enjoying it until the "terrible Mallory Knox sitcom thing." He also went on to say that he has never watched the film beyond that part. When asked if he would ever direct his own Natural Born Killers, Tarantino said that he'd come to terms with Stone's version and that he would just let it be.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted November 11, 2014 11:35 AM |
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I watched The Libertine, a biopic of John Wilmot (1647 - 1680) , an incredibly witty, self-destructive poet, who was like the embodiment of the Romantic Era just before it arrived. It was a really good movie.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2014 05:17 PM |
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artu said: Oliver Stone movies are usually good but never great, in my opinion.
nbk is a great movie, in my opinion. just because it attacks the viewer with the idiot rationale and backward morality of the masses, doesn't mean that the "poke in the eye" isn't wholly justified. i think more movies need to be made, with that "poke in the eye" theme in mind.
in fact, i'd say, a "chainsaw to the brain" is required, at this point in time.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 11, 2014 06:16 PM |
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fred79 said: in fact, i'd say, a "chainsaw to the brain" is required, at this point in time.
Saw 3 says hi
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