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phe
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posted December 12, 2015 03:16 PM |
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just figured i'd point out, that a fetus could be considered a parasite.
so, if:
fetus = parasite,
and subsequently,
parasite = (i'll let you all fill in the blank),
then,
why shouldn't a human being be able to remove it?
bad people could be considered as parasites much more...
why don't remove bad people...
only bad people are abortionists...
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fred79
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posted December 12, 2015 03:22 PM |
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phe said:
bad people could be considered as parasites much more...
why don't remove bad people...
only bad people are abortionists...
sure they are.
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Homer171
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posted December 12, 2015 04:35 PM |
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86 pages, are you kidding me! Thank you JJ 
I read this later if... I found some gems fred mentioned, wishful thinking?
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Elodin
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posted December 12, 2015 05:34 PM |
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A fetus has multiplying cells (thus is living), complete human DNA (thus is fully human), and the DNA of the fetus differs from the DNA of the mother (thus the fetus is not part of the mother, but is a separate human life.)
Anyone who says abortion does not snuff out an innocent human life is denying science.
Of course everyone should be allowed to defend their own life so if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother she should have the right to kill the young human in her womb. Killing the human young for any other reason is the murder of an innocent life.
Young lives matter. All lives matter.
Abortionists say not all lives matter. Of course they think their own life matters.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted December 12, 2015 05:37 PM |
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All lives matter. Of course, that is not a very popular view in today's liberal world. 
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JollyJoker
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posted December 12, 2015 05:39 PM |
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Continuation from the shootings thread
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2 000 years ago ; women poisoning themselves or jamming cissors and knives in their own private parts, which was a lot more horrifying and lead to the death of the woman more often than with today's tools and pills.
who were they then? who are they now? prostitutes and bad people... definately they are should not be allowed for this...
@ phe
If every 14-year-old and younger girl that got ever raped and pregnant would give you the slap you deserve for that remark, what do you think, how long they would be at it? What if EVERY women ever that got raped and pregnant would give you a slap?
The amount of sheer ignorance some people are displaying is staggering. I'd have a lot more respect for Christians if they wouldn't throw around less moral judgements about what is good and bad and less assignings of guilt until everyone is feeling guilty for just being a human and leave the judging to God.
I really wonder how these vocal Christian guys would react themselves when they were raped by 3 guys and got pregnant, and as soon as they would entertain thoughts of aborting the fruit of that rape, all sympathy and pity would turn into horror, and everyone would telling them what a massive sin that would be and how God their soul would be forfeited and the whole arsenal of bullcrap came down on them.
Look, if my daughter got raped, got pregnant, wanted to abort, and ANYONE would start telling her that crap I would probably hit them. Hard.
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phe
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posted December 12, 2015 05:51 PM |
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@ phe
If every 14-year-old and younger girl that got ever raped and pregnant would give you the slap you deserve for that remark, what do you think, how long they would be at it? What if EVERY women ever that got raped and pregnant would give you a slap?
The amount of sheer ignorance some people are displaying is staggering. I'd have a lot more respect for Christians if they wouldn't throw around less moral judgements about what is good and bad and less assignings of guilt until everyone is feeling guilty for just being a human and leave the judging to God.
I really wonder how these vocal Christian guys would react themselves when they were raped by 3 guys and got pregnant, and as soon as they would entertain thoughts of aborting the fruit of that rape, all sympathy and pity would turn into horror, and everyone would telling them what a massive sin that would be and how God their soul would be forfeited and the whole arsenal of bullcrap came down on them.
Look, if my daughter got raped, got pregnant, wanted to abort, and ANYONE would start telling her that crap I would probably hit them. Hard.
it doesn't matter if someone is Christian/Jewish/religious at all or not...
if rapist be severe punished there would be no rapes...
baby created during act of love or act or rape deserves to live the same...
live of baby cannot be left to mood of casual person and to anybody else... should be always protected...does adult person deserves better to live? it's only 9 months of life that they share...after this she could give baby to other people to take care...life with conciousness of killing own baby is not a good thing to serve for 14 years old girl...only people with dick-morality would do it to her...
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JollyJoker
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posted December 12, 2015 05:53 PM |
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Elodin said:
A fetus has multiplying cells (thus is living), complete human DNA (thus is fully human), and the DNA of the fetus differs from the DNA of the mother (thus the fetus is not part of the mother, but is a separate human life.)
Anyone who says abortion does not snuff out an innocent human life is denying science.
Of course everyone should be allowed to defend their own life so if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother she should have the right to kill the young human in her womb. Killing the human young for any other reason is the murder of an innocent life.
Young lives matter. All lives matter.
Abortionists say not all lives matter. Of course they think their own life matters.
El, get a grip already! Is a chain-smoking mother having an early birth punished for child abuse? Is a drug-abusing girl aborting a pregnancy with an overdose to be punished as a murderer? Is a desperate girl on hunger strike drinking vinegar and whatnot a murderer.
I'll tell you who ARE: the mothers (and fathers) who get unwanted children, let them feel their whole child life they are unwanted, abuse them, show them no love - and then those children become criminals. THOSE parents/mothers are the criminals.
If a pregnant woman states she doesn't want to have it - is there any way to relieve her of that burden?
Nope - if there was there wouldn't be abortions.
And THAT is the reason why there are different kinds of life. One sort can live only if ONE OTHER HUMAN BEING wants it as well. Every other life can. It has something to do with LOVE - if there is none between mother and embryo, well. Judgement should be left to the women inquestion and god, not earthly justice, especially not male.
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kiryu133
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posted December 12, 2015 06:17 PM |
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forbidding abortion is removing basic and vital rights in addition to putting many people in mortal danger. for what? to "save" something that doesn't even exist yet and might not even have had a good or even loving life.
No, these are not good reasons to violate and destroy lives.
Not to mention what it implies or forces women to regarding their sex-lives. But that is part of the first point.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted December 12, 2015 06:18 PM |
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Stick to your opinions, I'll stick to mine.
It's not like I can ever convince anyone...
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phe
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posted December 12, 2015 06:28 PM |
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forbidding abortion is removing basic and vital rights in addition to putting many people in mortal danger. for what? to "save" something that doesn't even exist yet and might not even have had a good or even loving life.
rising children is mortal danger too..
baby exist from very moment of conception, it's another person ...with help of advanced science could stand without mother-host...good/loving life cannot exist in abortion culture... baby can be adopted and find better parents...
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Not to mention what it implies or forces women to regarding their sex-lives. But that is part of the first point.
of course sex-life is the more important than life or death of children 
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Zenofex
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posted December 12, 2015 06:29 PM |
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Stick to your opinions, I'll stick to mine.
It's not like I can ever convince anyone...
You feel extraordinarily wise by saying that or what? You're a Christian, you follow the canon, everyone gets it. Now try to use some arguments for a change - if they are good you may actually change the perception that the Christians have brick heads when it comes to taboo topics to their religion.  Right now you're just reinforcing that like the Bible Belt incarnate above.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted December 12, 2015 06:35 PM |
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And right now, I don't care about what you just wrote to me and how you insulted me and Elodin.
Cheers, Zeno-dude. Or better put, Good-bye. Feel free to ignore me in the future, if you can. If you can't, I'll do my best to ignore your hate.
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phe
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posted December 12, 2015 06:35 PM |
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You feel extraordinarily wise by saying that or what? You're a Christian, you follow the canon, everyone gets it. Now try to use some arguments for a change - if they are good you may actually change the perception that the Christians have brick heads when it comes to taboo topics to their religion. Right now you're just reinforcing that like the Bible Belt incarnate above.
I'm not Christian...I am rationalist...however believe/know that aliens created religions on Earth...and cannot not believe... however dislike...because all bad things in the world...
all I say is objective reality...
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kiryu133
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posted December 12, 2015 06:41 PM |
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phe said:
of course sex-life is the more important than life or death of children
A collection of cells potentially forming should not be above a persons physical and psychological well-being. not even if they might one day become a child. But before that thing is fully formed it is not a child and should not in any way limit a woman from enjoying sex.
Now if we were actually talking about children you might've had a point. But we are not. We are talking about random assortment of cells that has no understanding on the situation and might not have had much of a good existence anyway.
If you feel abortion is murder, what do you think of male masturbation? Mass murderers all of 'em I say.
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phe
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posted December 12, 2015 06:52 PM |
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A collection of cells potentially forming should not be above a persons physical and psychological well-being. not even if they might one day become a child. But before that thing is fully formed it is not a child and should not in any way limit a woman from enjoying sex.
Now if we were actually talking about children you might've had a point. But we are not. We are talking about random assortment of cells that has no understanding on the situation and might not have had much of a good existence anyway.
who has understanding of situation 1 day fetus, 1 month, 5 month , 8 month fetus, newborn baby, 1 year old kid etc..., handicapped people, people knowing maths? people knowing all the science? silly prostitutes?
people have possiblity of enjoing sex without conception
masturbation doesn't lead to conception
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Kayna
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posted December 12, 2015 06:54 PM |
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But what if she's 500 pounds and on top of you? You can't exactly squeeze yourself out. Women past a certain weight should have the right for abortion. We could use a mathematic formula based on the woman's weight and the man's arm strength.
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posted December 12, 2015 06:57 PM |
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How many Christians here accept violence against or even killing people who work at abortion clinics? Curious.
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Zenofex
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posted December 12, 2015 07:00 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
And right now, I don't care about what you just wrote to me and how you insulted me and Elodin.
Cheers, Zeno-dude. Or better put, Good-bye. Feel free to ignore me in the future, if you can. If you can't, I'll do my best to ignore your hate.
You might have used less words to say that you have nothing to say.
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kiryu133
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posted December 12, 2015 07:01 PM |
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SPERM ARE BABIES! MASTURBATING IS KILLING COUNTLESS BABIES BECAUSE OF SEXUAL PLEASURE! WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS STOP!?
Look, if we're gonna talk about fetuses being babies, then we might as well bring in the damn sperm and menstruation. same thing, only male masturbation is totally fine while abortion is not. Menstruation is fine but generally "yucky" for some reason. I wonder why... (Ok, I don't. It's the long-standing patriarchy rearing its ugly head. If males could become pregnant we'd have drive-through abortion clinics).
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