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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted June 03, 2016 10:33 AM |
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The end of Heroes came with Team Erwin and H6.
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"Occam's shuriken: when the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas." -- Dr. Gordon Freeman (Freeman's Mind)
"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted June 03, 2016 10:41 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: (imagine it as a mobile game with microtransactions)
oh, but we don't have to imagine it
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 03, 2016 12:05 PM |
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ChrisD1 said: I'm happy too that ubi might go down,but in the meantime i know that this might be the end of heroes as we know it (imagine it as a mobile game with microtransactions).
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 03, 2016 12:14 PM |
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Verriker the dedicated i envy your free time or your passion.
Heroes might end up to be just that,and not the game we have today if ubi goes down. But the franchise has even more hopes being sold to another,under vivendi
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 03, 2016 12:20 PM |
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ChrisD1 said: Verriker the dedicated i envy your free time or your passion.
Heroes might end up to be just that,and not the game we have today if ubi goes down. But the franchise has even more hopes being sold to another,under vivendi
you write as if these screenshots are photoshops by me or something, they actually exist mate lol
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 03, 2016 12:42 PM |
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verriker said:
ChrisD1 said: Verriker the dedicated i envy your free time or your passion.
Heroes might end up to be just that,and not the game we have today if ubi goes down. But the franchise has even more hopes being sold to another,under vivendi
you write as if these screenshots are photoshops by me or something, they actually exist mate lol
Haha written speech is tricky. I know it's not one of your other grand projects against ubi, but I'm just lazy enough to google smth and upload it here for that kind of response. So to my eyes you are passionate,or you have lots of free time. I'm actually admiring you,take the compliment
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 03, 2016 12:48 PM |
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ChrisD1 said: Haha written speech is tricky. I know it's not one of your other grand projects against ubi, but I'm just lazy enough to google smth and upload it here for that kind of response. So to my eyes you are passionate,or you have lots of free time. I'm actually admiring you,take the compliment
my line manager says, "cheers ChrisD1 but stop encouraging that goldbricking degenerate" lol
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted June 03, 2016 04:56 PM |
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frostymuaddib said: The end of Heroes came with Team Erwin and H6.
Heroes 7 exists so that statement is factually wrong. H6 and 7 have flaws and i can understand your dislike for them, but they are Heroes titles regardless and in the end of the day, as long as they continue to make Heroes games, there is chance for a game that does appeal your tastes. If they stop, then there is none.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted June 03, 2016 06:35 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Heroes 7 exists so that statement is factually wrong.
I'm not sure that you understood me. Yes there is H7 after H6, and there will be Rise of Hamsters expansion. The problem is this: H6 (and H7) did more damage to the franchise than good. Just look at what happened with H7 sales, or it's price, or it's ratings. There are some people who enjoy them, sure, and some of them are trying to convince the others that these games are good and fun, however I don't see any argument to support that. Face it: team Erwin brought us 2 games that are connected with bad release, plenty of bugs, bad bugfixing, dumbing down of gameplay, no direction of development (Erwin himself said that)... I would rather wait 10, 20 years for a good Heroes game, instead of having this snow of H6 and H7.
GenyaArikado said:
H6 and 7 have flaws and i can understand your dislike for them, but they are Heroes titles regardless and in the end of the day, as long as they continue to make Heroes games, there is chance for a game that does appeal your tastes. If they stop, then there is none.
Yes, they are heroes games. But, that doesn't mean that they did something good for the franchise. On the contrary.
Also, if they continue down this road of spawning this kind of Heroes games, chances of team Erwin appealing my tastes will be 0. To illustrate:
P stands for chance of team Erwin's heroes appealing me,
n stands for number of team Erwin's heroes games.
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"Occam's shuriken: when the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas." -- Dr. Gordon Freeman (Freeman's Mind)
"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted June 04, 2016 03:35 AM |
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No, I understood what you meant (H6-7 beingcs mess) clearly but your statement about Heroes being dead is regardless factually wrong because it didnt actually die there lol.
Yes if they keep making poor games things will get worse but if they stop making games (which is now a real possibility) things will NOT get better either lmao.
Some people here also seem all to hopeful thatvMM franchise will be sold and bought by someone better than ubi to top it off which is unlikely to say the least
Looking forward to Heroes 8: The pachislot.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted June 04, 2016 09:01 AM |
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GenyaArikado said: No, I understood what you meant (H6-7 beingcs mess) clearly but your statement about Heroes being dead is regardless factually wrong because it didnt actually die there lol.
Yes we got those two games. But how many players are actually playing them? My point is: more people are playing previous titles than H6+H7 combined. That is the same as Heroes being dead.
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"Occam's shuriken: when the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas." -- Dr. Gordon Freeman (Freeman's Mind)
"lol" -- VERRIKER VON ERWINSSEN
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted June 04, 2016 09:31 AM |
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted June 04, 2016 09:53 AM |
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted June 04, 2016 12:54 PM |
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GenyaArikado said: No, I understood what you meant (H6-7 beingcs mess) clearly but your statement about Heroes being dead is regardless factually wrong because it didnt actually die there lol.
Something can be dead already, before death itself sets in . Erwan's team is like a poorly trained executioner; the first hew of the axe was enough to make sure the victim is as good as dead. However, they needed at least another hew before getting close to actually severing the head and making death instant instead of a long way of suffering.
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foxxxer
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 04, 2016 01:27 PM |
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Edited by foxxxer at 13:27, 04 Jun 2016.
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Maurice said: Erwan's team is like a poorly trained executioner; the first hew of the axe was enough to make sure the victim is as good as dead. However, they needed at least another hew before getting close to actually severing the head and making death instant instead of a long way of suffering.
... or highly trained tormentors who play with the victim for quite a while until it's dead
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted June 04, 2016 05:39 PM |
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ChrisD1 said: who are you and how do you know i like kpop????
Do I? Nah what I meant was Peters comment at the end But it was rather sarcastic. Glad you like kpop though, personally I'm a bit of a jpop listener myself...
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted June 05, 2016 07:50 AM |
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I must be speaking chinese.
H6 and 7 can be absolute trash with 1 player but as long as they keep making games series isnt dead and as long as they keep making games there is possibility for a not snowty one. No games = no chance. Can you stop having ADD and focus on the point?
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted June 05, 2016 10:04 AM |
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GenyaArikado said: I must be speaking chinese.
H6 and 7 can be absolute trash with 1 player but as long as they keep making games series isnt dead and as long as they keep making games there is possibility for a not snowty one. No games = no chance. Can you stop having ADD and focus on the point?
So your advice is to keep buying every snowty game they make in the hope of them making a good one ? I'd rather have them bury the franchise than keeping giving them my money ... I'm sorry but there are indie developers that do a better job with a lot less money ...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 05, 2016 10:15 AM |
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Mathematically speaking yes. But it's long been proven that the current team does not have what it takes so maybe we would all be better off to wait and see the series sold elsewhere. Either way it's not in our hands.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted June 05, 2016 07:09 PM |
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GenyaArikado said: I must be speaking chinese.
H6 and 7 can be absolute trash with 1 player but as long as they keep making games series isnt dead and as long as they keep making games there is possibility for a not snowty one. No games = no chance. (lame insult)
1), whether Ubisoft or Vivendi, they will stop making Heroes games after Trial By Erwin so no chance anyway lol
2), they never had the budget, talent or the vision after Fabrice left, and they're not going to lick those things off a rock, so no chance anyway lol
3), dead series doesn't necessarily mean series can't return from the dead later on, it just means the series stays the way it is for a time, which is much better than tarnishing series with snowy games lol
4), talented fans can go on to make great new games and improve the old, see King's Bounty, Quantomas game and mods, so no chance doesn't necessarily mean no hope lol
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