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Thread: Strongest Town & Weakest Town in HOMM3 This thread is 34 pages long: 1 10 20 ... 26 27 28 29 30 ... 34 · «PREV / NEXT»
OhforfSake
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posted June 07, 2016 08:13 AM

Anil said:
Water magic is very useful for this town. Clone to Phenixies and get high morale and rush to enemy, very deadly.


And Frenzy has double the potential damage.

Anyway what do you mean you can't "regulate" Vampire Lords or Necromancy?

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Ebonheart
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posted June 07, 2016 08:19 AM

Anil said:
Hard to regulation to artifacts, I dont know how can i regule artifacts and Necropolis (i think that's impossible to regule Necromancy, Vampire Lord and Aging)

But statistically Conflux is easily the best town. Conflux could be medicore town without double phoenix growth rate . Water magic is very useful for this town. Clone to Phenixies and get high morale and rush to enemy, very deadly.

Also castle is very strong in rich maps and if u have Lord Haart. Amazing potential of damage-attack. Very good town.

Otherwise i think Dungeon,Tower,Fortress,Stronghold powers are very similiar. This towns looks like have good balance.

In the example I posted it was only premade end battles with equal units per town which, unlike artefacts, will be very different depending on what town that it is.

Statistically best. I shall be honest with you Anil, and everyone else on the HC3 forum, I have never ever looked at total statistics in my entire HC career. The only time I ever recall looking at statistics of this kind was when I accidently opened a topic about town build up costs, where all towns were ranked from top to bottom based on the expensive nature. That's all.

As for the rest regarding Castle and the other towns. Lord Haart is one of the absolute worst Heroes to have, since most L/XL maps are done within 5 weeks.
I can also say that Castle falls short in the battles aswell (at least vs Tower), they win some but loses the majority of them. Best chance vs the tower had Stronghold and with a generous amount of demons, Inferno.
But once again, these results are just based on the premade battles, nothing else.
Ps: On a small note, if you have a rich map, why would you want Lord Haart?

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Anil
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posted June 07, 2016 04:28 PM

OhforfSake said:
Anil said:
Water magic is very useful for this town. Clone to Phenixies and get high morale and rush to enemy, very deadly.


And Frenzy has double the potential damage.

Anyway what do you mean you can't "regulate" Vampire Lords or Necromancy?


That's good idea but sadly Phoenixies are immune to fire spell.

Regulate is term of stats. I know how can i make stats. Hard to explain for me because my English isn't good.




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Anil
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posted June 07, 2016 04:47 PM

Because Castle is 2.nd most expensive town. Rich map may not be enough. Lord Haart would be your main Hero or your support hero up to you.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 07, 2016 05:00 PM

Anil said:
Because Castle is 2.nd most expensive town. Rich map may not be enough. Lord Haart would be your main Hero or your support hero up to you.

I don't get how much wealth you need to feel okay, but when I play L/XL maps I never have any issues building up or purchasing units as Tower.=)

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OhforfSake
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posted June 07, 2016 06:53 PM

Tempts me to ask again, how many in game weeks/months does it usually take before you've finished a map?

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Ebonheart
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posted June 07, 2016 06:57 PM
Edited by Ebonheart at 18:57, 07 Jun 2016.

Me or Anil?
Btw I found your stinger, although you might want to consider upgrading it and your armor to be a bit more lethal, I suggest you look at these available upgrades. http://hubpages.com/education/The-Most-Dangerous-Scorpions-in-the-World

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OhforfSake
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posted June 07, 2016 07:39 PM

I asked Anil since he'd consider an estates hero for a main. If gold would be that important, I'd say Rampart > all because of the treasury building.

And yeah those guys may have larger stingers than I, but it isn't the size that counts, at least that's what my latest meal told me.

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Salamandre
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posted June 07, 2016 07:46 PM

Can I ask again, how you get lord Haart on a random map? It puzzles me how easy it looks to you, I was sure we can't (by normal means). Can we?

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posted June 07, 2016 07:52 PM

Maybe he is talking about HotA? Haart is enabled there instead of Sir Mullich.
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Salamandre
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posted June 07, 2016 07:53 PM

Ah ok thanks. I don't play minor mods.

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posted June 07, 2016 07:55 PM


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Ebonheart
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posted June 07, 2016 08:41 PM

Salamandre said:
Can I ask again, how you get lord Haart on a random map? It puzzles me how easy it looks to you, I was sure we can't (by normal means). Can we?

I can select Lord Haart for random maps, but Mullich is not present.

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Anil
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posted June 08, 2016 12:11 AM

Ebonheart said:
Anil said:
Because Castle is 2.nd most expensive town. Rich map may not be enough. Lord Haart would be your main Hero or your support hero up to you.

I don't get how much wealth you need to feel okay, but when I play L/XL maps I never have any issues building up or purchasing units as Tower.=)

How you have never any issues building up or purchasing units? This is most expensive town and Tower has only 1 gold speciality hero. Also Tower have movement penalty (Snow: Movement cost: 150%)
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Anil
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posted June 08, 2016 12:18 AM
Edited by Anil at 00:23, 08 Jun 2016.

OhforfSake said:
I asked Anil since he'd consider an estates hero for a main. If gold would be that important, I'd say Rampart > all because of the treasury building.

And yeah those guys may have larger stingers than I, but it isn't the size that counts, at least that's what my latest meal told me.

Yes gold is important but Rampart is not > towns because  7.th dwelling is very expensive.

I play only complete version. You can pick Lord Haart and start the game.
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posted June 08, 2016 12:29 AM

Must be the original maps, the Restoration of Erathia, that only allows Lord Haart to be chosen.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 08, 2016 06:41 AM
Edited by Ebonheart at 06:51, 08 Jun 2016.

Anil said:
How you have never any issues building up or purchasing units? This is most expensive town and Tower has only 1 gold speciality hero. Also Tower have movement penalty (Snow: Movement cost: 150%)

I also play the complete version and Lord Haart is indeed available to pick on my random maps and/or scenarios.

As for the Tower part, it depends on the map. But if we go after say Jebus XL, I tend to upgrade to Titans Day 1 Week 2, upgrade the 1-2 titans present in my army along with the 2 from town + 1 from dwelling via hero chaining, which gives me 5 titans on D1W2M1. It might drain my entire gold supply but they are worth it. It can be done on L but then a trading post is required. In some games it can also be a bit frustrating if the gem mine is locked in behind another strong stack or if there is no trading post present. If that is the case, I tend to upgrade Genies day 1, Master Gremlins day 2 and so on until I can afford to upgrade the 7th dwell + the units.

But in another thread I gave you a link to a game of Maretti, I suggest you watch it and drain what knowledge you can from it.

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OhforfSake
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posted June 08, 2016 07:27 AM

Anil said:
OhforfSake said:
I asked Anil since he'd consider an estates hero for a main. If gold would be that important, I'd say Rampart > all because of the treasury building.

And yeah those guys may have larger stingers than I, but it isn't the size that counts, at least that's what my latest meal told me.

Yes gold is important but Rampart is not > towns because  7.th dwelling is very expensive.

I play only complete version. You can pick Lord Haart and start the game.


You never answer me how long it takes you (in in-game time) to actually get those very expensive buildings.

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Anil
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posted June 09, 2016 02:18 PM
Edited by Anil at 14:19, 09 Jun 2016.

Sorry i coudn t understand your question.

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Ebonheart
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posted June 09, 2016 02:56 PM

Anil said:
Sorry i coudn t understand your question.

He wonders how long a typical game of yours lasts and during what week/month you build your lv 7 dwell.

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